Jesus Was A Capitalist

View attachment 309613Jesus will remember who had abortions, and who allowed abortions, and who tried to stop abortions...

are you saying that the bible never condoned abortion?

I don't remember anywhere in the bible there being a discussion
of legal abortion


The Bible does not support that idea. Read Psalm 139. Science does not support that idea either.

For you formed my inward parts;
you knitted me together in my mother's womb.
14 I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.[a]
Wonderful are your works;
my soul knows it very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you,
when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed substance;
in your book were written, every one of them,
the days that were formed for me,
when as yet there was none of them.

the OT is not part of the bible?

The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephaha]">[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curseb]">[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”
 
View attachment 309613Jesus will remember who had abortions, and who allowed abortions, and who tried to stop abortions...

are you saying that the bible never condoned abortion?

I don't remember anywhere in the bible there being a discussion
of legal abortion


The Bible does not support that idea. Read Psalm 139. Science does not support that idea either.

For you formed my inward parts;
you knitted me together in my mother's womb.
14 I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.[a]
Wonderful are your works;
my soul knows it very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you,
when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed substance;
in your book were written, every one of them,
the days that were formed for me,
when as yet there was none of them.

the OT is not part of the bible?

The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephaha]">[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curseb]">[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”


Cut to the chase: am I correct that Jesus's message was capitalist, freedom-based, and not based on the force and coercion of socialism?
Which is it, redistribution or generosity?
Free will or under threat of punishment???
 
he was just another man like anyone else


So you're a government school grad?


and that is one of the main reasons I find conservatives like you so deplorably repulsive


harmonica posted an HONEST and LOGICALLY ACCEPTABLE position; jesus was just another guy

You have every right to disagree.

But instead of engaging in LOGICAL CIVIL debate with him you CHOSE TO MOCK and RIDICULE him!


that is just SOOOOOOOOO conservative.....

ok

now it is time for you to
1. defend your deplorable actions
2. accuse liberals of STARTING it
3. demand an apology from everyone
 
he was just another man like anyone else


So you're a government school grad?


and that is one of the main reasons I find conservatives like you so deplorably repulsive


harmonica posted an HONEST and LOGICALLY ACCEPTABLE position; jesus was just another guy

You have every right to disagree.

But instead of engaging in LOGICAL CIVIL debate with him you CHOSE TO MOCK and RIDICULE him!


that is just SOOOOOOOOO conservative.....

ok

now it is time for you to
1. defend your deplorable actions
2. accuse liberals of STARTING it
3. demand an apology from everyone



So you're a government school grad?
 
he was just another man like anyone else


So you're a government school grad?


and that is one of the main reasons I find conservatives like you so deplorably repulsive


harmonica posted an HONEST and LOGICALLY ACCEPTABLE position; jesus was just another guy

You have every right to disagree.

But instead of engaging in LOGICAL CIVIL debate with him you CHOSE TO MOCK and RIDICULE him!


that is just SOOOOOOOOO conservative.....

ok

now it is time for you to
1. defend your deplorable actions
2. accuse liberals of STARTING it
3. demand an apology from everyone



So you're a government school grad?


sad

pathetic

loser

(just thinking of words trump would have used)
 
he was just another man like anyone else


So you're a government school grad?


and that is one of the main reasons I find conservatives like you so deplorably repulsive


harmonica posted an HONEST and LOGICALLY ACCEPTABLE position; jesus was just another guy

You have every right to disagree.

But instead of engaging in LOGICAL CIVIL debate with him you CHOSE TO MOCK and RIDICULE him!


that is just SOOOOOOOOO conservative.....

ok

now it is time for you to
1. defend your deplorable actions
2. accuse liberals of STARTING it
3. demand an apology from everyone



So you're a government school grad?


sad

pathetic

loser

(just thinking of words trump would have used)



So that's a 'yes'?
 
he was just another man like anyone else


So you're a government school grad?


and that is one of the main reasons I find conservatives like you so deplorably repulsive


harmonica posted an HONEST and LOGICALLY ACCEPTABLE position; jesus was just another guy

You have every right to disagree.

But instead of engaging in LOGICAL CIVIL debate with him you CHOSE TO MOCK and RIDICULE him!


that is just SOOOOOOOOO conservative.....

ok

now it is time for you to
1. defend your deplorable actions
2. accuse liberals of STARTING it
3. demand an apology from everyone



So you're a government school grad?


you could have chosen the decent and honorable thing. you could have backed down and actually ENGAGED in civil discussion....

but....no.....

you chose to behave like trump
 
"Capitalism is the banks, not the government."

Wrong.


Capitalism is the billions of voluntary exchanges between people.


“Here’s another telling chart, this one is from the World Bank. In 1820, 94% of people lived in extreme poverty. Thanks to capitalism, by 2015, that number had declined to 9.6%, single digits for the first time in human history. Now, it’s still too many, but if we are going to reduce the number even more, we need to understand what caused the decline: free-market capitalism.”

The Market Will Set You Free
extreme-poverty-trend-1024x616.png


Fact Question 3

“If we combine the Angus Madison hockey stick chart and the World Bank data on extreme poverty what we get is something quite amazing. Unprecedented global prosperity and an unprecedented decline in poverty - across the globe - over the past 200 years. That’s capitalism in a nutshell.” Op. Cit.



Cut taxes, cut regulations, and, as Trump proved, the natural capitalism of the people will create prosperity.

MAIN FACT:

The US government is in bankrupcy since decades ago.

What caused it?: Capitalism

How?

Rather than collecting the money directly from you it does it by collecting thru the government.

The debtor is a slave of the loaner.

When you pay taxes, that money is distributed for many programs.

However, the taxes collected are not enough to cover the demand from those programs.

Then the government has to use its "credit card".

The credit card debt is paid in small payments, so interest is added.

The credit card reaches its limit and the loaner concedes to increase the limit of the debt.

A never end game where the capitalism system originates for governments to become the slaves.

Then, governments are slaves of the banks and banks control them.

Your idea of less taxes causes the government to have less funds for programs and less "income" to pay the debt.

Then, at the end your ideology is nuts.


The new slavery is no more persons as slaves, but today is governments as slaves, just look the US budget always going deeper in more debt.

Beyond the trick of the credit card given to governments, the banks have investors who own companies, like arms production.

When a government needs new weapons, this government is forced to choose the company imposed by the bank, otherwise the debtor government will be in trouble.

Banks are the ones who caused the great depression, banks are the ones who cause wars. Oil corporations have investments in banks, then these companies also manipulate wars in order to take control of the oil production.

This is the reason why you pay for cheaper but bloody gasoline to fill up your car gas tank. Innocent people from other countries have been killed in order for you to enjoy cheap gasoline. But you don't notice it because you have been told the troops are defending you and not that the troops have been sent to steal the wealth from other countries.

And this is not a negative message but the crude reality which ruled since man made societies. The stronger group always abusing the rest.

There is not a single empire in the world reaching such status because freedom and hard working people.

Empires reach their status by taking other nations wealth, this is history in progress and will never change.


Then you might ask, why other systems like socialism has not reached a greater position?

The answer is very simple.

Capitalism has "money" to corrupt people and money to pay and destroy any competitor.

In the 70's several countries in South America acquired socialist tendencies. Then capitalism used the US to break such tendency. This is to say, the only way to protect capitalism is by destroying the other tendencies.

Why the US can't pay its national debt?

Simple: capitalism forces the government to accept over priced contracts to cause the debt to increase each year.

Capitalism manipulate the media and promotes political leaders making you to pay less taxes in order for them to become more popular, but at the end, the national debt increases and the banks collect more money because the interest. When you pay taxes, a great percent of your money goes to the banks not so to government programs.

And rather than base your messages on "government or world agencies diagrams" telling you poverty is disappearing, better go a visit those poor countries and check if what they say is true, and if they are not in misery, ask why.

For example, visiting Panama's Darien area, which is the poorest zone at the south of that country, old farmers who never contributed a single penny from their production, which is small anyway, today they receive by their age a monthly check.

This new help for those old people is a new government program, but it is not a capitalist idea but a socialist one.

Then, if your diagram is correct, not necessarily is thanks to "capitalism". Who knows how much the debt of Panama will increase thanks to such a program. When Greece was in bankruptcy, The US and other countries offered "loans" rather than sending help. The Greek government rejected the loans.

Loans make you slave.

Jesus lived in a world where capitalism was in charge, but he didn't promote it, no word from him telling you to get rich and enjoy such a wealthy. Not a word telling you that you can't get rich as well.

On the other hand, when Jesus comes again, his kingdom won't follow capitalism, neither socialism, and etc.

It will be a system made to avoid corruption, because capitalism is the cause of the biggest political corruption scandals in the world. There are no expectations for being applied when the new kingdom comes.
 
View attachment 309613Jesus will remember who had abortions, and who allowed abortions, and who tried to stop abortions...

are you saying that the bible never condoned abortion?

I don't remember anywhere in the bible there being a discussion
of legal abortion

it's in the OT.

numbers 5: 11-31 is all about a husband bringing his wife to a priest... if his wife is even suspected of infidelity ... to consume a concoction that a priest will concoct to bring on a miscarriage; to give her 'the curse'. ever hear that expression ' i got the curse'? that's an expression (however antiquated) means when a female gets her period; & in the bible, it meant to bring on a miscarriage by bleeding.

that is a biblical phrase.
Exactly, it is called "The Law Of Jealousies."
 
he was just another man like anyone else


So you're a government school grad?


and that is one of the main reasons I find conservatives like you so deplorably repulsive


harmonica posted an HONEST and LOGICALLY ACCEPTABLE position; jesus was just another guy

You have every right to disagree.

But instead of engaging in LOGICAL CIVIL debate with him you CHOSE TO MOCK and RIDICULE him!


that is just SOOOOOOOOO conservative.....

ok

now it is time for you to
1. defend your deplorable actions
2. accuse liberals of STARTING it
3. demand an apology from everyone



So you're a government school grad?
So you are a home school dropout!
 
he was just another man like anyone else


So you're a government school grad?


and that is one of the main reasons I find conservatives like you so deplorably repulsive


harmonica posted an HONEST and LOGICALLY ACCEPTABLE position; jesus was just another guy

You have every right to disagree.

But instead of engaging in LOGICAL CIVIL debate with him you CHOSE TO MOCK and RIDICULE him!


that is just SOOOOOOOOO conservative.....

ok

now it is time for you to
1. defend your deplorable actions
2. accuse liberals of STARTING it
3. demand an apology from everyone



So you're a government school grad?


you could have chosen the decent and honorable thing. you could have backed down and actually ENGAGED in civil discussion....

but....no.....

you chose to behave like trump




"you chose to behave like trump"

Y'mean I'm an unmitigated success????


Wow.....thanks so much.
 
"Capitalism is the banks, not the government."

Wrong.


Capitalism is the billions of voluntary exchanges between people.


“Here’s another telling chart, this one is from the World Bank. In 1820, 94% of people lived in extreme poverty. Thanks to capitalism, by 2015, that number had declined to 9.6%, single digits for the first time in human history. Now, it’s still too many, but if we are going to reduce the number even more, we need to understand what caused the decline: free-market capitalism.”

The Market Will Set You Free
extreme-poverty-trend-1024x616.png


Fact Question 3

“If we combine the Angus Madison hockey stick chart and the World Bank data on extreme poverty what we get is something quite amazing. Unprecedented global prosperity and an unprecedented decline in poverty - across the globe - over the past 200 years. That’s capitalism in a nutshell.” Op. Cit.



Cut taxes, cut regulations, and, as Trump proved, the natural capitalism of the people will create prosperity.

MAIN FACT:

The US government is in bankrupcy since decades ago.

What caused it?: Capitalism

How?

Rather than collecting the money directly from you it does it by collecting thru the government.

The debtor is a slave of the loaner.

When you pay taxes, that money is distributed for many programs.

However, the taxes collected are not enough to cover the demand from those programs.

Then the government has to use its "credit card".

The credit card debt is paid in small payments, so interest is added.

The credit card reaches its limit and the loaner concedes to increase the limit of the debt.

A never end game where the capitalism system originates for governments to become the slaves.

Then, governments are slaves of the banks and banks control them.

Your idea of less taxes causes the government to have less funds for programs and less "income" to pay the debt.

Then, at the end your ideology is nuts.


The new slavery is no more persons as slaves, but today is governments as slaves, just look the US budget always going deeper in more debt.

Beyond the trick of the credit card given to governments, the banks have investors who own companies, like arms production.

When a government needs new weapons, this government is forced to choose the company imposed by the bank, otherwise the debtor government will be in trouble.

Banks are the ones who caused the great depression, banks are the ones who cause wars. Oil corporations have investments in banks, then these companies also manipulate wars in order to take control of the oil production.

This is the reason why you pay for cheaper but bloody gasoline to fill up your car gas tank. Innocent people from other countries have been killed in order for you to enjoy cheap gasoline. But you don't notice it because you have been told the troops are defending you and not that the troops have been sent to steal the wealth from other countries.

And this is not a negative message but the crude reality which ruled since man made societies. The stronger group always abusing the rest.

There is not a single empire in the world reaching such status because freedom and hard working people.

Empires reach their status by taking other nations wealth, this is history in progress and will never change.


Then you might ask, why other systems like socialism has not reached a greater position?

The answer is very simple.

Capitalism has "money" to corrupt people and money to pay and destroy any competitor.

In the 70's several countries in South America acquired socialist tendencies. Then capitalism used the US to break such tendency. This is to say, the only way to protect capitalism is by destroying the other tendencies.

Why the US can't pay its national debt?

Simple: capitalism forces the government to accept over priced contracts to cause the debt to increase each year.

Capitalism manipulate the media and promotes political leaders making you to pay less taxes in order for them to become more popular, but at the end, the national debt increases and the banks collect more money because the interest. When you pay taxes, a great percent of your money goes to the banks not so to government programs.

And rather than base your messages on "government or world agencies diagrams" telling you poverty is disappearing, better go a visit those poor countries and check if what they say is true, and if they are not in misery, ask why.

For example, visiting Panama's Darien area, which is the poorest zone at the south of that country, old farmers who never contributed a single penny from their production, which is small anyway, today they receive by their age a monthly check.

This new help for those old people is a new government program, but it is not a capitalist idea but a socialist one.

Then, if your diagram is correct, not necessarily is thanks to "capitalism". Who knows how much the debt of Panama will increase thanks to such a program. When Greece was in bankruptcy, The US and other countries offered "loans" rather than sending help. The Greek government rejected the loans.

Loans make you slave.

Jesus lived in a world where capitalism was in charge, but he didn't promote it, no word from him telling you to get rich and enjoy such a wealthy. Not a word telling you that you can't get rich as well.

On the other hand, when Jesus comes again, his kingdom won't follow capitalism, neither socialism, and etc.

It will be a system made to avoid corruption, because capitalism is the cause of the biggest political corruption scandals in the world. There are no expectations for being applied when the new kingdom comes.



"The US government is in bankrupcy since decades ago."

Wrong again.

Try to stick to words you can define.



I can help:

What Is Bankruptcy?
Bankruptcy is the legal proceeding involving a person or business that is unable to repay outstanding debts. The bankruptcy process begins with a petition filed by the debtor, which is most common, or on behalf of creditors, which is less common. All of the debtor's assets are measured and evaluated, and the assets may be used to repay a portion of outstanding debt.
Bankruptcy Definition
 
he was just another man like anyone else


So you're a government school grad?


and that is one of the main reasons I find conservatives like you so deplorably repulsive


harmonica posted an HONEST and LOGICALLY ACCEPTABLE position; jesus was just another guy

You have every right to disagree.

But instead of engaging in LOGICAL CIVIL debate with him you CHOSE TO MOCK and RIDICULE him!


that is just SOOOOOOOOO conservative.....

ok

now it is time for you to
1. defend your deplorable actions
2. accuse liberals of STARTING it
3. demand an apology from everyone



So you're a government school grad?
So you are a home school dropout!



"So you're a government school grad?"

Ivy League grad.

And you?
 
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he was just another man like anyone else


So you're a government school grad?


and that is one of the main reasons I find conservatives like you so deplorably repulsive


harmonica posted an HONEST and LOGICALLY ACCEPTABLE position; jesus was just another guy

You have every right to disagree.

But instead of engaging in LOGICAL CIVIL debate with him you CHOSE TO MOCK and RIDICULE him!


that is just SOOOOOOOOO conservative.....

ok

now it is time for you to
1. defend your deplorable actions
2. accuse liberals of STARTING it
3. demand an apology from everyone



So you're a government school grad?
So you are a home school dropout!



"So you're a government school grad?"

Ivy League grad.

And you?



That put a cork in his pie-hole.....
 
Bernie the Marxist looks like he’ll be their candidate….that’s Karma!

Voters can decide whether to subscribe to the Bible of the Founders, or the Communist Manifesto.

Socialism/communism is based on the bible of government-as-god, the Communist Manifesto. The view is that government, the collective, knows better than you do how to handle your money. And they will take it.



17. “Jesus never endorsed the forced redistribution of wealth.
That idea is rooted in envy, something that he, and the Tenth of the Ten Commandments, railed against. Most importantly, Jesus cared about helping the less fortunate. He never would have approved anything that undermines wealth creation. And the only thing that has ever created wealth and lifted masses of people out of poverty is free market capitalism. Read the New Testament. The plain meaning of the text is loud and clear: Jesus was not a socialist.
He couldn't be. He loved people, not the state.”
Was Jesus a Socialist?


Socialism is based on envy, jealousy, and the desire to take what others have earned.
Not on this:
"You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, or his male servant, or his female servant, or his ox, or his donkey, or anything that is your neighbor’s” (Exodus 20:17).


It appears the Democrats are sweatin' bullets, 'cause they know which the voters will choose.
 
View attachment 309613Jesus will remember who had abortions, and who allowed abortions, and who tried to stop abortions...

are you saying that the bible never condoned abortion?

I don't remember anywhere in the bible there being a discussion
of legal abortion


The Bible does not support that idea. Read Psalm 139. Science does not support that idea either.

For you formed my inward parts;
you knitted me together in my mother's womb.
14 I praise you, for I am fearfully and wonderfully made.[a]
Wonderful are your works;
my soul knows it very well.
15 My frame was not hidden from you,
when I was being made in secret,
intricately woven in the depths of the earth.
16 Your eyes saw my unformed substance;
in your book were written, every one of them,
the days that were formed for me,
when as yet there was none of them.

the OT is not part of the bible?

The Test for an Unfaithful Wife
11 Then the Lord said to Moses, 12 “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘If a man’s wife goes astray and is unfaithful to him 13 so that another man has sexual relations with her, and this is hidden from her husband and her impurity is undetected (since there is no witness against her and she has not been caught in the act), 14 and if feelings of jealousy come over her husband and he suspects his wife and she is impure—or if he is jealous and suspects her even though she is not impure— 15 then he is to take his wife to the priest. He must also take an offering of a tenth of an ephaha]">[a] of barley flour on her behalf. He must not pour olive oil on it or put incense on it, because it is a grain offering for jealousy, a reminder-offering to draw attention to wrongdoing.

16 “‘The priest shall bring her and have her stand before the Lord. 17 Then he shall take some holy water in a clay jar and put some dust from the tabernacle floor into the water. 18 After the priest has had the woman stand before the Lord, he shall loosen her hair and place in her hands the reminder-offering, the grain offering for jealousy, while he himself holds the bitter water that brings a curse. 19 Then the priest shall put the woman under oath and say to her, “If no other man has had sexual relations with you and you have not gone astray and become impure while married to your husband, may this bitter water that brings a curse not harm you. 20 But if you have gone astray while married to your husband and you have made yourself impure by having sexual relations with a man other than your husband”— 21 here the priest is to put the woman under this curse—“may the Lord cause you to become a curseb]">[b] among your people when he makes your womb miscarry and your abdomen swell. 22 May this water that brings a curse enter your body so that your abdomen swells or your womb miscarries.”


Cut to the chase: am I correct that Jesus's message was capitalist, freedom-based, and not based on the force and coercion of socialism?
Which is it, redistribution or generosity?
Free will or under threat of punishment???

Jesus was a Pharisee. He advocated the written (that which he considered
"REVEALED" ) law which included lots of provisions for "DA POOR". The
provisions included RIGHTS to the "edges of the field" ---dat means you can go
to cultivated land and EAT THERE from the produce of designated parts of the
field and he advocated buying and selling (at least he never made any comment
as reported in the NT that refuted the idea) and he supported voluntary charity.
He did not like Roman intervention which interfered with the jurisprudence of
Judea. Try reading the book
 
Before you were formed in the womb I knew you.

Scott Peterson is doing life in prison on two counts of murder, one count for murdering Lacy and the other for murdering his unborn son, Connor.

Roe v. Wade was adjudicated on the basis of a lie. Norma McCorvey was NOT raped as she claimed.

Then too consider the "feminist" (sick) reaction to "choice" in China where women have their unborn girls aborted. "Feminists" (sick) think this is horrific but it's NOT their choice, is it.

Feminist is a one word oxymoron, as is choice, gay, and transgender. Ignoring biology is the antiscience antic of Leftists. Women becoming men? No. Murdering an innocent baby and calling it garbage? No.
 
View attachment 309613Jesus will remember who had abortions, and who allowed abortions, and who tried to stop abortions...

are you saying that the bible never condoned abortion?

I don't remember anywhere in the bible there being a discussion
of legal abortion

it's in the OT.

numbers 5: 11-31 is all about a husband bringing his wife to a priest... if his wife is even suspected of infidelity ... to consume a concoction that a priest will concoct to bring on a miscarriage; to give her 'the curse'. ever hear that expression ' i got the curse'? that's an expression (however antiquated) means when a female gets her period; & in the bible, it meant to bring on a miscarriage by bleeding.

that is a biblical phrase.

yeah? so? that is not an elective abortion-----it is just a trick
 

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