Zone1 "Did Jesus become Messiah at His conception?"

Did Jesus become Messiah or Moshiach at His conception?

  • Yes, Jesus became Moshiach ben David, Moshiach the Passover Lamb at His conception.

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • I am not certain and I believe Messiah Yeshua - Jesus may have became Messiah at his birth.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I am not certain and I believe Messiah Yeshua - Jesus became Messiah at baptism by John at Jordan?

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I believe that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus became Messiah the Passover Lamb at the temptation by Satan.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jesus was given more and more of the "Spirit of Moshiach" during successive events in His life.

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • Other answer, please be specific in a reply.

    Votes: 2 50.0%

  • Total voters
    4
God sent Jesus to be The Messiah.
Wtf you think he tested Abraham for? Shits and giggles?
No! He wanted to see if any of mankind was worth what he was going to do.
Luckily Abraham passed the test for us.


Yes!

I totally agree with you that Rabbi Yeshua - Jesus was indeed the Jewish Messiah, specifically, Moshiach ben David, [Messiah the Passover Lamb].

I do believe thought that some extremely interesting and unusual events are being set up in the tiny nation of Israel though.


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Hint: I believe that the last name of the guy who leads the Palestinians is almost certainly NOT a coincidence?!

Who broughtest down kings to destruction, and brokest easily their power in pieces, and the glorious from their bed. 7 Who heardest judgment in Sina, and in Horeb the judgments of vengeance. 8 Who anointedst kings to penance, and madest prophets successors after thee. 9 Who wast taken up in a whirlwind of fire, in a chariot of fiery horses. 10 Who art registered in the judgments of times to appease the wrath of the Lord, to reconcile the heart of the father to the son, and to restore the tribes of Jacob.





 
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Truth: Paul was appointed by Jesus Christ as an Apostle to give doctrine as directed by Heaven via inspiration of God's Holy Spirit. He spoke as directed. There was no one more versed in the Old Testament teachings and Law than Paul....aka Saul, who studied under the most respected authority on Jewish Law and Scripture in the 1st century. Gamaliel.

To suggest that any supposed Jewish or Christian Theologian had more knowledge than any Christ Appointed Apostle is exactly the point. One must dismiss the actual content of the Holy Scriptures in some attempt to void the truth delivered through the Holy Spirit of God.

Its clear. God no longer speaks through PROPHECY.......He speaks through the Words delivered by Jesus Christ. (Hebrews 1:1-3), these words were delivered ONCE......not many times over the 21 hundred years since. (Jude 3)

The Faith has been delivered as promised by Jesus Christ. How does God speak to man in the 21st century? In order to reach your conclusions you must suggest that God has not changed His method of delivering truth to man since the beginning. The Holy Scriptures reveal that God has changed His method of communicating with man since the begging.
Examples from the scriptures: With Adam and Moses God spoke "mouth to mouth" directly (Gen. 3:9, Numbers 12:8). With the Old Prophets of antiquity God spoke and directed through Visions and Dreams (Isa. 1:1) But then God declared He no longer speaks directly to man or through the prophets (Heb. 1:1-2)

God speaks through Jesus examples: "He that reject Me, and receives not MY WORDS has one that Judges him; THE WORD THAT I SPOKE.....THE SAME WILL JUDGE HIM ON THE LAST DAY" -- John 12:48

Jesus teaches through His Word as delivered. "Go ye therefore and make disciples of all nations.....TEACHING THEM THINGS THAT I HAVE COMMANDED YOU......." -- Matt. 28:18,19


But could it be pure coincidence that Atheists like Howard Storm, if they have a brush with death, report meeting Messiah Yeshua - Jesus who judges them based on the words of Jesus?

And could it be pure coincidence that former Atheist Howard Storm has a radical transformation in how he approaches life after the NDE that he reports having had in 1985?


4. The Life Review of Howard Storm​

Next, they wanted to talk about my life. To my surprise my life played out before me, maybe six or eight feet in front of me, from beginning to end.

The life review was very much in their control, and they showed me my life, but not from my point of view. I saw me in my life and this whole thing was a lesson, even though I didn’t know it at the time. They were trying to teach me something, but I didn’t know it was a teaching experience, because I didn’t know that I would be coming back. We just watched my life from beginning to the end. Some things they slowed down on, and zoomed in on and other things they went right through.

My life was shown in a way that I had never thought of before. All of the things that I had worked to achieve, the recognition that I had worked for, in elementary school, in high school, in college, and in my career, they meant nothing in this setting.

I could feel their feelings of sorrow and suffering, or joy, as my life’s review unfolded. They didn’t say that something was bad or good, but I could feel it. And I could sense all those things they were indifferent to. They didn’t, for example, look down on my high school shot-put record. They just didn’t feel anything towards it, nor towards other things which I had taken so much pride in.

What they responded to was how I had interacted with other people. That was the long and short of it. Unfortunately, most of my interactions with other people didn’t measure up with how I should have interacted, which was in a loving way. Whenever I did react during my life in a loving way they rejoiced.

Most of the time I found that my interactions with other people had been manipulative. During my professional career, for example, I saw myself sitting in my office, playing the college professor, while a student came to me with a personal problem. I sat there looking compassionate, and patient, and loving, while inside I was bored to death. I would check my watch under my desk as I anxiously waited for the student to finish.

I got to go through all those kinds of experiences in the company of these magnificent beings.

When I was a teenager my father’s career put him into a high-stress, twelve-hour-a-day job. Out of my resentment because of his neglect of me, when he came home from work, I would be cold and indifferent toward him. This made him angry, and it gave me further excuse to feel hatred toward him. He and I fought, and my mother would get upset. Most of my life I had felt that my father was the villain and I was the victim. When we reviewed my life I got to see how I had precipitated so much of that, myself. Instead of greeting him happily at the end of a day, I was continually putting thorns in him in order to justify my hurt.


 

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