Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[hobelim]

About this: "... you are wasting your brief time on earth trying to convince me ..."

Most of the exchanges on this board might look like two parties/sides trying to convince/convert the other, but for the most part the purpose and result is to illustrate the polarized views for those reading here.
At least to inform them, hopefully convince/convert those in the audience.

Thank you. And I agree.

Just so you know, I have no illusions or interest in trying to covert anyone to anything. I am only dealing with strange people like ding for the benefit of others standing around watching.

 

[hobelim]

Let's consider hobelim's thinking.

Putting these elements together, hobelim appears to be:

• A fundamentalist or ultra‑conservative believer
• With a strict exclusivist soteriology (only his version of religion is valid)
• Holding anti‑sacramental, anti‑Catholic, anti-protstant, and anti‑liturgical views
• Using polemical rhetoric rather than theological argument
• Confident in declaring others “unforgiven” or “condemned,” which suggests a belief in visible or knowable signs of salvation

This is not typical mainstream anything; it seems closer to independent fundamentalist Baptist, KJV‑only, or revivalist separatist traditions where harsh denunciation is seen as a form of faithfulness, if he is a Christian.

Key indicators:

• Use of condemnation language (“you remain under the condemnation of my God”).
• Certainty about another person’s salvific status (“Unforgiven”).
• Hostility toward sacramental theology (“munch on the Antichrist”).
• Mockery of liturgical observance (“celebrate the death of Jesus… yay! derp”).

You should include in your speculations that I am only paying "them" back in their own coin.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Let's consider hobelim's thinking.

Putting these elements together, hobelim appears to be:

• A fundamentalist or ultra‑conservative believer
• With a strict exclusivist soteriology (only his version of religion is valid)
• Holding anti‑sacramental, anti‑Catholic, anti-protstant, and anti‑liturgical views
• Using polemical rhetoric rather than theological argument
• Confident in declaring others “unforgiven” or “condemned,” which suggests a belief in visible or knowable signs of salvation

This is not typical mainstream anything; it seems closer to independent fundamentalist Baptist, KJV‑only, or revivalist separatist traditions where harsh denunciation is seen as a form of faithfulness, if he is a Christian.

Key indicators:

• Use of condemnation language (“you remain under the condemnation of my God”).
• Certainty about another person’s salvific status (“Unforgiven”).
• Hostility toward sacramental theology (“munch on the Antichrist”).
• Mockery of liturgical observance (“celebrate the death of Jesus… yay! derp”).

hobelim laughs helplessly. He is a fake.

 

[jacksonlamb]

You should include in your speculations, I am only paying "them" back in their own coin.

Your tender is nonnegotiable.

 

[hobelim]

hobelim laughs helplessly. He is a fake.

If I said anything amiss, then prove me in the wrong, whatever hole you've crawled out of.

 

[jacksonlamb]

If I have said anything amiss, then try to prove me in the wrong.

I have examined and responded. Your arguments have been handled well by ding.

 

[hobelim]

I have examined and responded. Your arguments have been handled well by ding.

I hate to break the news to you but you just discredited yourself like ding does all the time.

Good job!

Are you @dings superior in the hierarchy of hell? I was hoping to lure you out into the open.

It is hunting season after all. Talking serpents, swine that do not ruminate, teeming vermin that go down on all fours, and creepy things that creep have been running amok for too long.

Enough is enough.

“Behold, I will send for many fishermen,” says the LORD, “and they shall fish for them; and afterward I will send for many hunters, and they shall hunt them down from every mountain and every hill, and out of the holes and crevices in the rocks." Jeremiah 16:16

 

[jacksonlamb]

You have no news to break, hobelim.

We all are aware that you cannot make a logical case for your beliefs.

 

[Stryder50]

Thank you. And I agree.

Just so you know, I have no illusions or interest in trying to covert anyone to anything. I am only dealing with strange people like ding for the benefit of others standing around watching.

FYI, ding isn't all that strange. He's very helpful on matters of science, in explaining things and providing sources, etc.

 

[hobelim]

FYI, @ding isn't all that strange. He's very helpful on matters of science, in explaining things and providing sources, etc.

I only have seen his pitiful attempts to appear to be intelligent by citing AI about religion as if he didn't have a functioning brain. And is seems his brain was surgically removed by religion.

All that he has shown me is his ignorance, bigotry, antisemitism, pretense, and complete lack of spiritual substance when he resorts to lies and scurrilous false accusations saying I think I am God, I hate Christians, I hate God, I'm an Atheist hell bent on subverting Christianity with the truth and verifiable facts, an angry gay Jewish man, even secular Jesus. lol. I don't mind.

If he had any knowledge of scientific facts he would never profess to believe what he claims to believe, that One God is really three coequal persons, a trinity that diddled a virgin to become a sacrificial Jewish mangod who defied reality with supernatural miracles of the lie that scripture is to be taken literally. He's in a state of cognitive dissonance as good as dead.

It must be hell.

Either way, whether in science or religion, he is just an actor and lying fraud. A false person.