Jesus Was A Capitalist

[irosie91]

That Green New Deal actually says 'economic security for those who don't care to work.'

That LIE has already been debunked, but there is no surprise you are still mindlessly spewing the lie!!!!
Please cite the exact place where your LIE exists in the ACTUAL bill presented to Congress, or admit you are worthless homeschooled lying scum!
https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hres109/BILLS-116hres109ih.pdf

be not silly-------"economic security for those who do not work" is the
motto of the same people who support the idiot "green new deal" ----
the cadre has been accurately described

 

[ChemEngineer]

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The evil, trying to take from the rich, only to destroy themselves. You can deny that is what the parable is about, but you can't deny that the parable has played out.

It's called covetousness. It is a sin. Democrats wallow in it, gargle it, spit it out on everyone around them.

Having food and raiment be content therewith.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Very few fit that description.

lots

Reach into your pocket and pay for them.

try convincing Charles Dickens of your glorious benevolent utopia. Do you remember----WAY BACK----there was actually a movement to "let the churches
take care of da poor..." ------was that during the Carter era?

No such movement.


Dickensian poverty does not exist....it is the image intended to motivate the weak minded....you.

DICKENSIAN poverty, CERTAINLY, did exist------both in the USA and
in Merry Old England. Ask Steinbeck (another "radical" you despise?)
There was a "the churches can do it" thing------way back in the 20th century---you
must be younger than I.

Link or lie.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Very few fit that description.

lots

Reach into your pocket and pay for them.

try convincing Charles Dickens of your glorious benevolent utopia. Do you remember----WAY BACK----there was actually a movement to "let the churches
take care of da poor..." ------was that during the Carter era?

No such movement.


Dickensian poverty does not exist....it is the image intended to motivate the weak minded....you.

yeah----now I remember------it was RONALD REAGAN-------He wanted social
welfare to be the purview of "NON-PROFIT" organizations------like churches and
other community do-good groups. You got something against The Salvation Army?

Link or lie.

 

[PoliticalChic]

That Green New Deal actually says 'economic security for those who don't care to work.'

That LIE has already been debunked, but there is no surprise you are still mindlessly spewing the lie!!!!
Please cite the exact place where your LIE exists in the ACTUAL bill presented to Congress, or admit you are worthless homeschooled lying scum!
https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hres109/BILLS-116hres109ih.pdf

Gads, I am so sick of you lying morons.

Here's where you prove that I'm never wrong:

 

[edthecynic]

That Green New Deal actually says 'economic security for those who don't care to work.'

That LIE has already been debunked, but there is no surprise you are still mindlessly spewing the lie!!!!
Please cite the exact place where your LIE exists in the ACTUAL bill presented to Congress, or admit you are worthless homeschooled lying scum!
https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hres109/BILLS-116hres109ih.pdf

be not silly-------"economic security for those who do not work" is the
motto of the same people who support the idiot "green new deal" ----
the cadre has been accurately described

So now you admit it doesn't exist in the bill, but as dishonest as you are you will still rationalize continuing to lie about it.
Please link to the many people who have said that, other than Right-wing lying scum, to make it a "motto."

 

[edthecynic]

That Green New Deal actually says 'economic security for those who don't care to work.'

That LIE has already been debunked, but there is no surprise you are still mindlessly spewing the lie!!!!
Please cite the exact place where your LIE exists in the ACTUAL bill presented to Congress, or admit you are worthless homeschooled lying scum!
https://www.congress.gov/116/bills/hres109/BILLS-116hres109ih.pdf

Gads, I am so sick of you lying morons.

Here's where you prove that I'm never wrong:

Typical lying scum POS right-wing fake document, that is NOT from the ACTUAL bill I linked to, but lying scum like you knew that already!

 

[irosie91]

lots

Reach into your pocket and pay for them.

try convincing Charles Dickens of your glorious benevolent utopia. Do you remember----WAY BACK----there was actually a movement to "let the churches
take care of da poor..." ------was that during the Carter era?

No such movement.


Dickensian poverty does not exist....it is the image intended to motivate the weak minded....you.

DICKENSIAN poverty, CERTAINLY, did exist------both in the USA and
in Merry Old England. Ask Steinbeck (another "radical" you despise?)
There was a "the churches can do it" thing------way back in the 20th century---you
must be younger than I.

Link or lie.

Link to YOUR AGE? nope---I have none

 

[PoliticalChic]

Reach into your pocket and pay for them.

try convincing Charles Dickens of your glorious benevolent utopia. Do you remember----WAY BACK----there was actually a movement to "let the churches
take care of da poor..." ------was that during the Carter era?

No such movement.


Dickensian poverty does not exist....it is the image intended to motivate the weak minded....you.

DICKENSIAN poverty, CERTAINLY, did exist------both in the USA and
in Merry Old England. Ask Steinbeck (another "radical" you despise?)
There was a "the churches can do it" thing------way back in the 20th century---you
must be younger than I.

Link or lie.

Link to YOUR AGE? nope---I have none

So we can agree you were lying.

Steinbeck? Big fan. I went through my Steinbeck period, read most of his books.

America never had Dickensian poverty.....disappointing that you fell for the propaganda.

 

[luchitociencia]

However our point, the point that Political Chick is rightly making, is that this analogy is only true and accurate because G-d himself is upholding the fact that the owner has a right as owner of the property, to determine what he does with his own money.

In short, G-d is upholding capitalism. The owner of the business has the right to do with his own property, as he sees fit.

I agree with the whole above.

But the point G-d was making, is that his salvation, is his to give to whom he pleases, for whatever sacrifice he determines worthy. He is the vineyard owner, and just like the business owner of today, it's his property to do with as he pleases.

Definitively that is what will happen at the end.

And just like G-d was the Vineyard owner of Matthew 21, G-d had the right to kill the tenants, and replace them with people who decides.

You just walked and entered in dangerous land. It is not that simple. The land in that parable was "rented". This is a common business, which is the landlord rent the land, the tenant work the land, the harvest season comes, the landlord and the tenant "share" the production profit. The percent is in accord to the contract, in many cases is the 50/50 sharing.

The owner has "no right" to kill his tenants unless they become his enemies and caused him harm somehow, otherwise lazy tenants or corrupt ones will be just evicted.

The reason why that "analogy" works, is because he is upholding capitalism in real life. That the owner of a vineyard had a right to the goods produced by the Vineyard. That's Capitalism.

The parable talks about "tenants" and not about "slaves". The products profit are to be shared, because that was the purpose of renting that land. If the purpose was for "housing only" then it was no need for the tenant to work the land and produce goods.

And look at verse 38:

"But when the tenants saw the son, they said to each other, 'This is the heir. Come, let's kill him and take his inheritance.' ​

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Notice that the tenants decided to become "enemies" of the landlord. They committed crimes. this is not about "Capitalism" but about crimes which were stealing and murder.

And what happened to such people?

They said to him, “He will put those wretches to a miserable death and let out the vineyard to other tenants who will give him the fruits in their seasons.”​

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Justice was applied to those criminals. Nothing to do with Capitalism.

And who does that sound like? The Lenninists in Russia killed all the business owners, and confiscated their inheritance for themselves. In the end, after 60 Million starved to death, the people of Russia were reduced to eating each other in cannibalism to survive.

Look at the names of the southern States. Read the names of their cities. Those are Spaniard names.

When the new US nation started to expand from the 13 colonies area towards the West, the new Americans started to take control of the south. Then, war was one of the steps, also buying lands. But, in many areas, the lands were just took. The rightful owners who were Spaniards lost their entire properties even when they had the original deed proving their ownership.

They were played with the "reason" to deny their ownership was that those deeds were written in Spanish and not in English.

As far as history reveals, the Americans who took those lands ignoring those originals deeds of the rightful owners were definitively "capitalists". No doubt about it.

And the new US government consented those actions. It is written in history.

Same with Cuba. Same with Venezuela today.

The problem with your argument is that communism, socialism, capitalism are full of crimes in their historical development. You just see the mote in someone else's eye....

And we hear the same from left-wing socialists in this country. Let's take over health care. Let's tax the rich more. Let's raise the inheritance tax. Billionaires should not exist.

Yup. We live in sad times.

What side of the analogy is that on? The side of the tenants that were slaughtered, and replaced by people more worthy.

My point is, we are seeing the story Jesus laid out, played out in real life, even to this present day.

The evil, trying to take from the rich, only to destroy themselves. You can deny that is what the parable is about, but you can't deny that the parable has played out.

Let me tell you this way. God is not interested at all if you are capitalist, socialist, poor, rich, yellow race, etc, as long as you obey him and do no harm to others.

Look at Cornelius who was a Roman, and in the army, and assuming to be essential part of the power subjecting Palestine under control. This is to say, technically the "enemy" of Israel, of the Jews.

But, God didn't see that way, because Cornelius is described to be a man faithful to God and who helped the needed. And God sent Peter to make Cornelius be part of the kingdom of heaven.