Zone1 Would Jesus support Donald Trump if alive today?

[hobelim]

jesus is not given the true credit they deserve. their repudiation of the false commandments, judaism et al.

Let me let you in on a little secret. By revealing a new more rational way to understand and comply with the words and subjects in the Law that actually reflects the wisdom of a loving and benevolent God, Jesus repudiated the wrong way to follow the Law, not the Law itself, restoring the same WAY that Moses originally taught to follow that was lost to time after he died ending death, a curse, for all with enough sense to listen to his teaching and act on it.

 

[hobelim]

You mean like buggery?

Yes!

All you have to do is stop doing obscene and disgusting things in front of an entire church of people, young and old, families and children, by getting down on your knees and spreading your funky cheeks to take another mans mangod into that gaping hole in your addled head.

Pervert.

 

[ding]

Yes!

All you have to do is stop doing obscene and disgusting things in front of an entire church of people, young and old, families and children, by getting down on your knees and spreading your funky cheeks to take another mans mangod into that gaping hole in your addled head.

Pervert.

Your god approves of buggery, right?

 

[hobelim]

Your god approves of buggery, right?

No. Thats why you should repent for lifting your skirt to be defiled in public by the contagious issues of a diseased pervert. That is if you want to become "a living being" instead of an ass.

 

[ding]

No. Thats why you should repent for lifting your skirt to be defiled and contaminated by the issues of a demented pervert.

Your god condones buggery, right?

To condone means to accept, overlook, or forgive behavior that is generally considered wrong, illegal, or immoral, often by ignoring it. It implies giving tacit approval or allowing misconduct to continue without intervention. Synonyms include overlook, excuse, pardon, disregard, and tolerate.

 

[hobelim]

To condone means to accept, overlook, or forgive behavior that is generally considered wrong, illegal, or immoral, often by ignoring it.

Hmm.

That means that Jesus was condoning homosexuality because he never even mentioned it?

Copra sanctum!

Thanks for clearing that up.

 

[ding]

Hmm.

That means that Jesus was condoning homosexuality because he never even mentioned it?

Copra sanctum!

Thanks for clearing that up.

Your logic is as flawed as your belief that buggery is good and moral. According to ancient Israelite texts, it's an abomination. Were they wrong?

 

[hobelim]

According to ancient Israelite texts, it's an abomination. Were they wrong?

Yes. As wrong as it was to think that the subject of kosher law is about food. I have made this abundantly clear yet for some mysterious reason you don't see Jewish people calling me a liar, out of my mind, antisemitic, or a God hating Jesus freak trying to subvert Judaism. So try to understand that while you are wasting your brief time on earth trying to convince me that you're not an idolator, dead and in hell already, others are far more intelligent than that.


"For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more easily will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree." Romans 11:24

 

[ding]

Yes. As wrong as it was to think that the subject of kosher law is about food.

What does Leviticus 18:22 state?

 

[hobelim]

What does Leviticus 18:22 state?

If you want to know read it.

If you want to know what it means just ask and I will tell you yet again. Pervert.

 

[ding]

If you want to know read it.

If you want to understand what it means just ask and I will tell you yet again snd again. Weirdo.

I want you to state it and then tell me what you think it is stating. Can you do that?

 

[hobelim]

I want you to state it and then tell me what you think it is stating. Can you do that?

Been there done that. If you want to hear it again. go back and read what I already said. You are possessed whatever devil defiled and contaminated your mind with his funky spunk.

 

[ding]

Been there done that.

Your mind is totally controlled by whatever devil defiled and contaminated your mind with his funky spunk.

So you can't make the same argument about kosher food? You can't say the command against buggery was something else? What was Leviticus 18:22 really saying if it wasn't saying men shouldn't butt **** other men? What was the misunderstanding?

 

[hobelim]

So you can't make the same argument about kosher food? You can't say the command against buggery was something else.

I already explained this to you many times. Your failure to hear or remember is not a flaw in me. It is irrefutable evidence that you remain under the condemnation of my God for YOUR sins. Unforgiven. No matter how many times you celebrate the death of Jesus, an innocent man, yay! derp, or munch on the Antichrist every now and then on Sunday for spiritual life.

 

[ding]

I already explained this to you many times. Your failure to hear or remember is not a flaw in me. It is irrefutable evidence that you choose to remain under the condemnation of my God.

So using your kosher food argument, what was the misunderstanding regarding the command from your god that men should not **** other men like they **** women?

 

[ding]

No matter how many times you celebrate the death of Jesus, an innocent man, yay! derp, or munch on the Antichrist every now and then on Sunday for spiritual life.

What does this have to do with your belief that the command from your god against men butt ******* other men was misunderstood?

 

[hobelim]

What does this have to do with your belief that the command from your god against men butt ******* other men was misunderstood?

Thats a great question! Bless your soul! Let me know when you figure it out. I'll pray for you.

 

[ding]

Thats a great question! Bless your soul! Let me know when you figure it out. I'll pray for you.

I have figured it out. You make up shit to justify your perversions.

 

[jacksonlamb]

Let's consider hobelim's thinking.

Putting these elements together, hobelim appears to be:

• A fundamentalist or ultra‑conservative believer
• With a strict exclusivist soteriology (only his version of religion is valid)
• Holding anti‑sacramental, anti‑Catholic, anti-protstant, and anti‑liturgical views
• Using polemical rhetoric rather than theological argument
• Confident in declaring others “unforgiven” or “condemned,” which suggests a belief in visible or knowable signs of salvation

This is not typical mainstream anything; it seems closer to independent fundamentalist Baptist, KJV‑only, or revivalist separatist traditions where harsh denunciation is seen as a form of faithfulness, if he is a Christian.

Key indicators:

• Use of condemnation language (“you remain under the condemnation of my God”).
• Certainty about another person’s salvific status (“Unforgiven”).
• Hostility toward sacramental theology (“munch on the Antichrist”).
• Mockery of liturgical observance (“celebrate the death of Jesus… yay! derp”).

 

[Stryder50]

Yes. As wrong as it was to think that the subject of kosher law is about food. I have made this abundantly clear yet for some mysterious reason you don't see Jewish people calling me a liar, out of my mind, antisemitic, or a God hating Jesus freak trying to subvert Judaism. So try to understand that while you are wasting your brief time on earth trying to convince me that you're not an idolator, dead and in hell already, others are far more intelligent than that.


"For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more easily will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree." Romans 11:24

About this: "... you are wasting your brief time on earth trying to convince me ..."

Most of the exchanges on this board might look like two parties/sides trying to convince/convert the other, but for the most part the purpose and result is to illustrate the polarized views for those reading here.
At least to inform them, hopefully convince/convert those in the audience.