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No one has yet to tell me why you need to pack 1000 people cheek to jowl in an enclosed space in order to practice religion.Looks like some of our government officials haven't read the Constitution.
---Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne was charged with misdemeanor counts of unlawful assembly---
Florida megachurch pastor arrested for holding services despite health order
A Florida pastor was arrested on Monday for operating a Tampa megachurch in violation of a public health order prohibiting large gatherings in place to stem the spread of the coronavirus. &nbs…thehill.com
Can't you pray at home with your family or a couple of close friends until the danger of infecting another person with a virus that might endanger their health has passed?
If they actually read their bible they would know that all it takes is two
Oh, go ahead, have a pun on us!Holy shit. No pun intended.2 Dead, Dozens Have Coronavirus After 60 Choir Members Gather For Rehearsal
Daniel Blake Mon 30 Mar 2020 15:48 BST
2 Dead, Dozens Have Coronavirus After 60 Choir Members Gather For Rehearsal
^ THAT'S why the FLA preacher should have been arrested.
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there is nothing new about quarantine as a public health
issue. In fact it is BIBLICAL (special for Susie-----dingbat
can ignore it)
Are gatherings of more than ten people verboten or not? Concerts, sporting events, conventions? How is that "targeting" Christians? You might not have seen this post several pages back; there are alternative ways to worship right now. No one wants to stop you.You're giving Christians a bad name right now, Sue. All big gatherings ARE limited right now because they spread germs. It's not just Christians.You all think this is cute to limit Christians' rights to assemble now, but realize when the immune suppressed get together in the next regular flu season, when 60K people die anyway, and say ALL big gathering should be limited because they spread germs, you have less and less of a leg to stand on.
I mean I know these things like individual rights and freedoms are sooooo 18th century. But you might want to free your mind a little bit.
Oh shaming. A "bad name". Heaven forfend
there is nothing new about quarantine as a public health
issue. In fact it is BIBLICAL (special for Susie-----dingbat
can ignore it)
This made me laugh. After about 7 PM I am absolutely a complete dingbat. Ask my family
Are gatherings of more than ten people verboten or not? Concerts, sporting events, conventions? How is that "targeting" Christians? You might not have seen this post several pages back; there are alternative ways to worship right now. No one wants to stop you.You're giving Christians a bad name right now, Sue. All big gatherings ARE limited right now because they spread germs. It's not just Christians.You all think this is cute to limit Christians' rights to assemble now, but realize when the immune suppressed get together in the next regular flu season, when 60K people die anyway, and say ALL big gathering should be limited because they spread germs, you have less and less of a leg to stand on.
I mean I know these things like individual rights and freedoms are sooooo 18th century. But you might want to free your mind a little bit.
Oh shaming. A "bad name". Heaven forfend
If I were a pastor, I wouldn't hold services in the church and put my parishoners at risk. I realize it's hard on people; if people ever needed their religion, it's now. But there are other ways: Some congregations are doing "drive in's" and others are doing services, readings, etc. on line. You can do Mass (well, you don't get the wafer) on EWTN. There are sermons on tv every Sunday where I live.
there is nothing new about quarantine as a public health
issue. In fact it is BIBLICAL (special for Susie-----dingbat
can ignore it)
This made me laugh. After about 7 PM I am absolutely a complete dingbat. Ask my family
the "dingbat" is my pet name for DING-----not you, Susie.
Dingbat fancies himself a bible-scholar. Getting back to the
bible which you do seem to endorse------LOTS OF LAWS
demanding quarantine for all kinds of sicknesses
It's a First Amendment protected right. Sorry you don't like that people in this nation have rights. Actually I'm not really sorry; your opinion on the matter makes no difference to me whatsoever.
Okay. No one is taking away your right to practice your religion. "Assembling" right now in large numbers is a serious health risk to the community if not to you personally. It is temporary and there are alternatives. The numbers of people infected and spreading this puppy are the only argument I need.Are gatherings of more than ten people verboten or not? Concerts, sporting events, conventions? How is that "targeting" Christians? You might not have seen this post several pages back; there are alternative ways to worship right now. No one wants to stop you.You're giving Christians a bad name right now, Sue. All big gatherings ARE limited right now because they spread germs. It's not just Christians.You all think this is cute to limit Christians' rights to assemble now, but realize when the immune suppressed get together in the next regular flu season, when 60K people die anyway, and say ALL big gathering should be limited because they spread germs, you have less and less of a leg to stand on.
I mean I know these things like individual rights and freedoms are sooooo 18th century. But you might want to free your mind a little bit.
Oh shaming. A "bad name". Heaven forfend
If I were a pastor, I wouldn't hold services in the church and put my parishoners at risk. I realize it's hard on people; if people ever needed their religion, it's now. But there are other ways: Some congregations are doing "drive in's" and others are doing services, readings, etc. on line. You can do Mass (well, you don't get the wafer) on EWTN. There are sermons on tv every Sunday where I live.
It's a First Amendment protected right. Sorry you don't like that people in this nation have rights. Actually I'm not really sorry; your opinion on the matter makes no difference to me whatsoever.
I'd love to go to the Supreme Court to see Kavanaugh and the rest of the conservatives back the pastor.I hope the hell he does.
I'll bring the popcorn.
Okay. No one is taking away your right to practice your religion. "Assembling" right now in large numbers is a serious health risk to the community if not to you personally. It is temporary and there are alternatives. The numbers of people infected and spreading this puppy are the only argument I need.Are gatherings of more than ten people verboten or not? Concerts, sporting events, conventions? How is that "targeting" Christians? You might not have seen this post several pages back; there are alternative ways to worship right now. No one wants to stop you.You're giving Christians a bad name right now, Sue. All big gatherings ARE limited right now because they spread germs. It's not just Christians.You all think this is cute to limit Christians' rights to assemble now, but realize when the immune suppressed get together in the next regular flu season, when 60K people die anyway, and say ALL big gathering should be limited because they spread germs, you have less and less of a leg to stand on.
I mean I know these things like individual rights and freedoms are sooooo 18th century. But you might want to free your mind a little bit.
Oh shaming. A "bad name". Heaven forfend
If I were a pastor, I wouldn't hold services in the church and put my parishoners at risk. I realize it's hard on people; if people ever needed their religion, it's now. But there are other ways: Some congregations are doing "drive in's" and others are doing services, readings, etc. on line. You can do Mass (well, you don't get the wafer) on EWTN. There are sermons on tv every Sunday where I live.
It's a First Amendment protected right. Sorry you don't like that people in this nation have rights. Actually I'm not really sorry; your opinion on the matter makes no difference to me whatsoever.
Okay. No one is taking away your right to practice your religion. "Assembling" right now in large numbers is a serious health risk to the community if not to you personally. It is temporary and there are alternatives. The numbers of people infected and spreading this puppy are the only argument I need.Are gatherings of more than ten people verboten or not? Concerts, sporting events, conventions? How is that "targeting" Christians? You might not have seen this post several pages back; there are alternative ways to worship right now. No one wants to stop you.You're giving Christians a bad name right now, Sue. All big gatherings ARE limited right now because they spread germs. It's not just Christians.You all think this is cute to limit Christians' rights to assemble now, but realize when the immune suppressed get together in the next regular flu season, when 60K people die anyway, and say ALL big gathering should be limited because they spread germs, you have less and less of a leg to stand on.
I mean I know these things like individual rights and freedoms are sooooo 18th century. But you might want to free your mind a little bit.
Oh shaming. A "bad name". Heaven forfend
If I were a pastor, I wouldn't hold services in the church and put my parishoners at risk. I realize it's hard on people; if people ever needed their religion, it's now. But there are other ways: Some congregations are doing "drive in's" and others are doing services, readings, etc. on line. You can do Mass (well, you don't get the wafer) on EWTN. There are sermons on tv every Sunday where I live.
It's a First Amendment protected right. Sorry you don't like that people in this nation have rights. Actually I'm not really sorry; your opinion on the matter makes no difference to me whatsoever.
That doesn't keep Impeached Trump as president past January 20, 2021, when the Constitution says his term expires.How can there be an election in this COVID-19 state of emergency?You are correct the constitution needs to be protected. I will count on your outrage when anyone abuses the emergency powers they temporarily enjoy no matter their party. There's going to come a time very soon when Trump is going to directly attack the election with his disaster powers. You know it, I know it, it is inevitable.Whether or not these public gathering executive orders and stay at home orders from governors and mayors are Constitutional is a question that absolutely should be asked. It's times like these when the public is in a panic that gives elected officials the opportunities to seize power they typically wouldn't have and that's when the Constitution needs protected more than ever.
Trump is now your emperor for life due to COVID-19 scare.
Elections have to be suspended due to the seriousness of the situation.
Any powers not enumerated therein belong to the states. That is what is happening; the governors of the states are exercising their Emergency Powers that were crafted into legislation at some point by their duly appointed representatives of the people. I don't know about anywhere else, but in Maine those Powers are limited to 90 days. To extend it requires the approval of the legislature by the 80th day.
You talkin' about this guy...?A plague kills a full one third of the European population, and Dems don't consider it a serious event.
---Over the next five years, the Black Death would kill more than 20 million people in Europe—almost one-third of the continent’s population..---
Black Death ‑ Causes, Symptoms & Impact
The Black Death was a devastating global epidemic of bubonic plague that struck Europe and Asia in the mid‑1300s. Explore the facts of the plague, the symptoms it caused and how millions died from it.www.history.com
Get this straight shit for brains.
I ain't no fucking Democrat or 'leftist'.
there is nothing new about quarantine as a public health
issue. In fact it is BIBLICAL (special for Susie-----dingbat
can ignore it)
This made me laugh. After about 7 PM I am absolutely a complete dingbat. Ask my family
the "dingbat" is my pet name for DING-----not you, Susie.
Dingbat fancies himself a bible-scholar. Getting back to the
bible which you do seem to endorse------LOTS OF LAWS
demanding quarantine for all kinds of sicknesses
Yes, Old Testament laws which can be broken up thusly: Moral, Civil, Ceremonial.
The ceremonial laws pertained to the tabernacle, which no longer exists so does not apply.
The civil laws pertained to living as a fairly nomadic Israeli tribe. Also does not apply.
The moral laws always apply.
Any powers not enumerated therein belong to the states. That is what is happening; the governors of the states are exercising their Emergency Powers that were crafted into legislation at some point by their duly appointed representatives of the people. I don't know about anywhere else, but in Maine those Powers are limited to 90 days. To extend it requires the approval of the legislature by the 80th day.
Under the Fourteenth Amendment, as applied by the Supreme Court in various landmark rulings, the entire First Amendment is now incorporated under the Fourteenth, and all the rights enumerated therein protected even from the states.
In particular, freedom of religion is thus incorporated under Cantwell v. Connecticut, 310 U.S. 296 (1940), and freedom of assembly under DeJonge v. Oregon, 299 U.S. 353 (1937).
So no, the states do not now have the legitimate power to violate either of these rights, nor any of the other rights asserted in the First Amendment.
In fact, there are only a very few of the rights, out of the many affirmed throughout the Bill of Rights, that are not now incorporated under the Fourteenth Amendment.
It's a First Amendment protected right. Sorry you don't like that people in this nation have rights. Actually I'm not really sorry; your opinion on the matter makes no difference to me whatsoever.
And nobody is denying you this right. There is no requirement in the Bible for you to gather in large numbers twice on Sunday and once on Wednesday. You can worship your God from your house, in fact this is how the very first Christians did it.