We Have the Right to Assemble and Freedom of Religion - Unlawful Arrest of Preacher

[OldLady]

Any powers not enumerated therein belong to the states. That is what is happening; the governors of the states are exercising their Emergency Powers that were crafted into legislation at some point by their duly appointed representatives of the people. I don't know about anywhere else, but in Maine those Powers are limited to 90 days. To extend it requires the approval of the legislature by the 80th day.

Under the Fourteenth Amendment, as applied by the Supreme Court in various landmark rulings, the entire First Amendment is now incorporated under the Fourteenth, and all the rights enumerated therein protected even from the states.

In particular, freedom of religion is thus incorporated under Cantwell v. Connecticut, 310 U.S. 296 (1940), and freedom of assembly under DeJonge v. Oregon, 299 U.S. 353 (1937).

So no, the states do not now have the legitimate power to violate either of these rights, nor any of the other rights asserted in the First Amendment.

In fact, there are only a very few of the rights, out of the many affirmed throughout the Bill of Rights, that are not now incorporated under the Fourteenth Amendment.

Bob, this is temporary due to a health emergency. I'm no Constitutional scholar or lawyer, so I'll leave it there.

 

[Osiris-ODS]

Looks like some of our government officials haven't read the Constitution.

---Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne was charged with misdemeanor counts of unlawful assembly---

Florida megachurch pastor arrested for holding services despite health order

A Florida pastor was arrested on Monday for operating a Tampa megachurch in violation of a public health order prohibiting large gatherings in place to stem the spread of the coronavirus. &nbs…

thehill.com

There are exceptions.

Will they make exceptions for the Radical Muslims in a few weeks when their annual Ramadam bullshit comes down?

Of course the exceptions don't apply to Muslims. Why that would be wacist.

 

[HappyJoy]

Places of worship should be allowed to remain open as long as they are following the same listed guidelines listed for essential business and services. Many stores remain open along with public transportation, so not sure why a church would be any different.

Stores understandably are having to limit the purchase of toilet paper, meats, cleaning products, medications and many other things, resulting in people having to frequent stores on a more regular basis.

Of all the stores I've been in none have forced people to sanitize their hands before entering or imposed social distancing, while the overwhelming majority of people are doing these things on their own all stores are doing is informing people of the precautions they are making such as restricted hours, and increased sanitation and cleaning of the store.

Worship services should be held to the same requirements and in looking it seems this church is doing just that. Being forced to isolate can effect peoples health causing things like depression hopelessness and anxiety.

They aren't essential. Sorry, pray at home.

 

[lennypartiv]

It's cute that Godless atheists who hate Christianity think that they are somehow entitled to any credibility in lecturing us on what our religion does or does not require of us.

The liberal atheists love this pandemic. This is something they would pray for...if they prayed.

 

[HappyJoy]

It's cute that Godless atheists who hate Christianity think that they are somehow entitled to any credibility in lecturing us on what our religion does or does not require of us.

The liberal atheists love this pandemic. This is something they would pray for...if they prayed.

Consider atheists believe this is the one and only shot they got, I doubt it.

 

[lennypartiv]

No, it's not. A church does not have the right to endanger the citizens in it;s community.

The pastor is trying to help his community.

 

[HappyJoy]

No, it's not. A church does not have the right to endanger the citizens in it;s community.

The pastor is trying to help his community.

Well, he failed. Because he's another moron who isn't taking it seriously.

 

[MacTheKnife]

Looks like some of our government officials haven't read the Constitution.

---Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne was charged with misdemeanor counts of unlawful assembly---

Florida megachurch pastor arrested for holding services despite health order

A Florida pastor was arrested on Monday for operating a Tampa megachurch in violation of a public health order prohibiting large gatherings in place to stem the spread of the coronavirus. &nbs…

thehill.com

No one has yet to tell me why you need to pack 1000 people cheek to jowl in an enclosed space in order to practice religion.

Can't you pray at home with your family or a couple of close friends until the danger of infecting another person with a virus that might endanger their health has passed?

If they actually read their bible they would know that all it takes is two

I think it is rather obvious what this is really all about has nothing to do with freedom of religion or freedom of assembly................what this is really all about is stupidity vs. common sense.

There is no remedy for stupidity....thus this board is stuck with a lot of stoopid posters....I am beginning to put them on ignore....they are toooooo stupid to listen to reason, logic, or common sense.....thus a waste of time as well as a waste of board space.

 

[MacTheKnife]

No, it's not. A church does not have the right to endanger the citizens in it;s community.

The pastor is trying to help his community.

Well, he failed. Because he's another moron who isn't taking it seriously.

exactly and also he is one of those hurting Christianity by being the image of stupidity.....no one wants to follow a religion stupid people promote.

 

[Desperado]

Looks like some of our government officials haven't read the Constitution.

---Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne was charged with misdemeanor counts of unlawful assembly---

Florida megachurch pastor arrested for holding services despite health order

A Florida pastor was arrested on Monday for operating a Tampa megachurch in violation of a public health order prohibiting large gatherings in place to stem the spread of the coronavirus. &nbs…

thehill.com

Public safety, kid. Emergency measures and all that.

Sorry but the government is not my parent, Im old enough to decide what is best for me. The government only need to tell me how much tax I owe and then they can but out. They have yet to prove this is a real emergency and not a manufactured one,

 

[MacTheKnife]

And nobody is denying you this right. There is no requirement in the Bible for you to gather in large numbers twice on Sunday and once on Wednesday. You can worship your God from your house, in fact this is how the very first Christians did it.

It's cute that Godless atheists who hate Christianity think that they are somehow entitled to any credibility in lecturing us on what our religion does or does not require of us.

I do not think most give a rats ass what your religion requires of you.

What they do care about is dumb asses who are willing to endanger the lives of other under the guise of religious belief.....not even to mention scholars of the Bible will tell you there is no requirement for members of any church to meet together during a health crisis.

 

[HappyJoy]

No, it's not. A church does not have the right to endanger the citizens in it;s community.

The pastor is trying to help his community.

Well, he failed. Because he's another moron who isn't taking it seriously.

exactly and also he is one of those hurting Christianity by being the image of stupidity.....no one wants to follow a religion stupid people promote.

Definitely.

 

[whitehall]

As far as Constitutional law goes it's clear that the 1st Amendment Freedom of Religion trumps (pardon the pun) executive orders issued by a governor.

 

[HappyJoy]

As far as Constitutional law goes it's clear that the 1st Amendment Freedom of Religion trumps (pardon the pun) executive orders issued by a governor.

No, it doesn't.

 

[Faun]

As far as Constitutional law goes it's clear that the 1st Amendment Freedom of Religion trumps (pardon the pun) executive orders issued by a governor.

Cool, so people can now be sacrificed if their religion calls for it.

 

[whitehall]

As far as Constitutional law goes it's clear that the 1st Amendment Freedom of Religion trumps (pardon the pun) executive orders issued by a governor.

No, it doesn't.

Common sense might dictate staying home but a governor can't supersede the Bill of Rights without declaring martial law.

 

[Faun]

As far as Constitutional law goes it's clear that the 1st Amendment Freedom of Religion trumps (pardon the pun) executive orders issued by a governor.

No, it doesn't.

Common sense might dictate staying home but a governor can't supersede the Bill of Rights without declaring martial law.

When did DeSantis say people can't practice their faith?

 

[HappyJoy]

As far as Constitutional law goes it's clear that the 1st Amendment Freedom of Religion trumps (pardon the pun) executive orders issued by a governor.

No, it doesn't.

Common sense might dictate staying home but a governor can't supersede the Bill of Rights without declaring martial law.

He doesn't need to. it's not unconstitutional.

Just like it's not unconstitutional to block public gatherings in the middle of a gas leak. Though for you I recommend it highly.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Looks like some of our government officials haven't read the Constitution.

---Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne was charged with misdemeanor counts of unlawful assembly---

Florida megachurch pastor arrested for holding services despite health order

A Florida pastor was arrested on Monday for operating a Tampa megachurch in violation of a public health order prohibiting large gatherings in place to stem the spread of the coronavirus. &nbs…

thehill.com

See..."state of emergency", dope.

 

[Crepitus]

Looks like some of our government officials haven't read the Constitution.

---Pastor Rodney Howard-Browne was charged with misdemeanor counts of unlawful assembly---

Florida megachurch pastor arrested for holding services despite health order

A Florida pastor was arrested on Monday for operating a Tampa megachurch in violation of a public health order prohibiting large gatherings in place to stem the spread of the coronavirus. &nbs…

thehill.com

Public safety, kid. Emergency measures and all that.

Sorry but the government is not my parent, Im old enough to decide what is best for me. The government only need to tell me how much tax I owe and then they can but out. They have yet to prove this is a real emergency and not a manufactured one,

Holding a mass gathering during a pandemic is deciding what's right for everyone, not just you. Not your decision.