Zone1 Jesus was a Cult?

The circular argument is quoting the bible as reference to anything at all.
How so? Did ancient Israelites not invade Canaan? What was circular about that?
You can't even decide if the authors of the bible are referring to Jesus or to god, so the hokus-pokus method is to say they are one and the same while still maintaining (falsely) that you believe in one god.
Or it's a mystery and this was as close as we could come to understanding what can't be fully comprehended but can only be experienced. I feel bad for people like you who have never experienced it.
Pointing to what is printed upon currency is your motivating support of god? Ho-ho.
But it does show you are in the minority. ;)
I have presented reports by historical facts. You are offering a circular argument by quoting the superstitious bible. My case is solid, yours is fantasy.
You mean like Jewish texts and non-Christian historians which corroborate the accounts of the NT?
He witnessed the birth of the Messiah, is that it? Are there any other miracles he can attest to? :auiqs.jpg:

👉 I'd really like to hear a sensible argument against accusing Christianity of being a CULT. It seems there are none. But I'll keep the idea open just in case.
All religions are cults, dummy. Your problem is you are ignorant of the origin of the word cult.
 
Christianity is not a cult
All religions are cults.

The word "cult" has religious origins from the Latin cultus (meaning "worship," "care," or "cultivation"), initially describing a system of worship or a specific religious practice, like the cult of Dionysus. However, its meaning evolved, and by the 19th century, it gained negative connotations, referring to unorthodox or spurious religions, and later to groups with excessive devotion or manipulative practices, a shift from its original neutral religious basis.

Evolution of the Word "Cult"
  1. Latin Roots (Cultus): The word stems from Latin, relating to tilling the soil, care, training, and eventually, worship or adoration, sharing roots with words like "culture" and "cultivate".
  2. Early English Usage (17th Century): The first English uses meant "worship" or a specific set of devotional rites, as in the "cult of the Virgin Mary" or Roman imperial cults.
  3. Broadening Meanings (18th Century): It began to refer to intense, non-religious devotion to a person, idea, or fad (e.g., "the cult of success").
  4. Modern Negative Sense (19th Century Onward): The term started being applied to new or unorthodox religious movements, often with negative judgments, and now frequently describes groups seen as manipulative or harmful.
Key Takeaway
While "cult" began as a neutral term for religious devotion, its meaning shifted from describing a specific religious practice or branch to labeling groups perceived as dangerous or unorthodox, a change that has made the term highly controversial.
 
All religions are cults. Yes, even yours. I suggest you study the origin of the word. Here... I'll help.

You don't need to use pretzel logic, technically, all religions are cults. Religion is the original basis for that word. It wasn't always used in such a negative fashion as you are trying to use it now.

The word "cult" has religious origins from the Latin cultus (meaning "worship," "care," or "cultivation"), initially describing a system of worship or a specific religious practice, like the cult of Dionysus. However, its meaning evolved, and by the 19th century, it gained negative connotations, referring to unorthodox or spurious religions, and later to groups with excessive devotion or manipulative practices, a shift from its original neutral religious basis.

Evolution of the Word "Cult"
  1. Latin Roots (Cultus): The word stems from Latin, relating to tilling the soil, care, training, and eventually, worship or adoration, sharing roots with words like "culture" and "cultivate".
  2. Early English Usage (17th Century): The first English uses meant "worship" or a specific set of devotional rites, as in the "cult of the Virgin Mary" or Roman imperial cults.
  3. Broadening Meanings (18th Century): It began to refer to intense, non-religious devotion to a person, idea, or fad (e.g., "the cult of success").
  4. Modern Negative Sense (19th Century Onward): The term started being applied to new or unorthodox religious movements, often with negative judgments, and now frequently describes groups seen as manipulative or harmful.
Key Takeaway
While "cult" began as a neutral term for religious devotion, its meaning shifted from describing a specific religious practice or branch to labeling groups perceived as dangerous or unorthodox, a change that has made the term highly controversial.
Thats not what cult means in current context.
 
I have proved that Christianity is a CULT. I gave Christians an opportunity to inject some info that might refute the CULT status of Christianity but all they have (so far) is Bible quotes and personal insults.
All you have proven is that you are ignorant about the term "cult."
 
Thats not what cult means in current context.
No. It still means the same thing as it did when the word originated. It's just that now idiots want to use it in a bad way because they are insecure in their own beliefs.
 
No. It still means the same thing as it did when the word originated. It's just that now idiots want to use it in a bad way because they are insecure in their own beliefs.
Yes. GLASNOST might benefit by delving inward to just why he is so extremely desperate to assure himself there is no God. Once he has gained this assurance for himself, he will be satisfied there is no sense in beating that dead horse of his and move on. It's a shame to see someone so mired in quicksand that it's impossible to move even an inch forward.
 
Yes. GLASNOST might benefit by delving inward to just why he is so extremely desperate to assure himself there is no God. Once he has gained this assurance for himself, he will be satisfied there is no sense in beating that dead horse of his and move on. It's a shame to see someone so mired in quicksand that it's impossible to move even an inch forward.
GLASNOST - like many - is going to have to reach rock bottom before changing.
 
You would have had to do a full accounting to know that. Have you done that? Do you even know all of the cults that have existed throughout time?
No accounting necessary. I know the cults that transitioned to a become a church and survive to this day. Christianity and Islam are two examples.
 
No accounting necessary. I know the cults that transitioned to a become a church and survive to this day. Christianity and Islam are two examples.
If you are going to make qualifying statements like you did, then, yes, a full accounting is required.
 
No accounting necessary. I know the cults that transitioned to a become a church and survive to this day. Christianity and Islam are two examples.
Evolution of the word 'cult' to the point that this definition that no longer--and never has--describes Christianity or Islam. The Abrahamic religions/faith point to God and spirituality. Today, the word 'cult' generally encompasses a personality who is able to convince a group of people that someone in the government or society is out to get them. Cults, by today's definition, build a mistrust in people of other people.
 
Evolution of the word 'cult' to the point that this definition that no longer--and never has--describes Christianity or Islam. The Abrahamic religions/faith point to God and spirituality. Today, the word 'cult' generally encompasses a personality who is able to convince a group of people that someone in the government or society is out to get them. Cults, by today's definition, build a mistrust in people of other people.
You're not wrong but I gave my definition of cult here.
 
Yes, the Christian Church. Christianity is a CULT. I have already proved it.
Just a few words of advice - when posters on message boards say, "I won the thread, You lost the thread" or things like, "I already proved it"
I am guessing you think I am here to "win" the thread, this thread, or any thread .... and that I care whether or not you accept my proof. There are those who do and those who don't. I have circumnavigated the earth overland and I am certain flat-earthers are not impressed. Ask me if it causes me any lost sleep. Christianity is a CULT and I have proved it. Deal with it in your own way. It is YOUR PROBLEM, not mine. :26:
 
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