Zone1 The original lie in the Garden of Eden

[norwegen]

The serpent wasn't subject to the curses, Eve was.

Damn, you're dense.

God cursed the serpent, then the woman, then the man.

All three separate and distinct.

 

[GLASNOST]

Whatever makes you happy.

Squirrel!

Are you an acorn?

 

[norwegen]

Read post #28 and #29.

Again, what claim does the creation story make in attempting to prove God's existence?

 

[norwegen]

Are you an acorn?

Nutz might be.

 

[GLASNOST]

The serpent wasn't subject to the curses, Eve was.

True.

God cursed the serpent, then the woman, then the man. All three separate and distinct.

Not true.

 

[GLASNOST]

Again, what claim does the creation story make in attempting to prove God's existence?

Again, read post #28 and #29.

 

[Anathema]

* you have issues ...

to bad for the adam you claim, the one in the garden and eave together are equals in their relationship and both agreed to choose self determination over servitude and denial.

They were never intended to be equals. Thst wasn’t the plan. Unfortunately both attempts to create an assistant for Adam failed massively. Even more unfortunately the second one took Adam with her into a life of sin and death.

 

[The Duke]

Re: my comment--the word for SERPENT and WOMAN are different.

Get thee into a church

Now you sound like my cousin.

 

[norwegen]

Again, read post #28 and #29.

You'll have to explain this irrelevancey if you want to make it relevant to the creation story attempting to prove God's existence.

Hint: textbooks and science are irrelevant. If a story claims to prove God's existence, then the story is all you need.

 

[BreezeWood]

The serpent wasn't subject to the curses, Eve was.

that was moses ... judaism. not required reading.

- you missed the part the heavens accepted their choice for self determination and provided them with the goal to triumph over evil when accomplished they would be granted judgement for admission to the everlasting.

 

[Woodznutz]

Iron deficient women sometimes eat clay or starch-----that is PICA.
The word "dirt" is inaccurate.

The experts use the term "dirt", which is earth or ground; "dust" in the Bible.

Eating Dirt: Why People Do It, Dangers, and Purported Benefits

Eating dirt could be a sign of pica, nutritional deficiencies, or a cultural practice known as geophagia. Despite potential benefits, there is a danger for serious health issues.

www.healthline.com

 

[norwegen]

Re: my comment--the word for SERPENT and WOMAN are different.

Get thee into a church

More than that, the curses in chapter 3 make them distinct.

 

[Woodznutz]

Damn, you're dense.

God cursed the serpent, then the woman, then the man.

All three separate and distinct.

Spirit beings, the serpent, don't eat dust, or giving birth to children vaginally. Women do. That Eve would travail in childbirth just added to the curse of birthing children.

 

[irosie91]

Now you sound like my cousin.

she's right-----the two words are IN NO WAY----related IN FACT----eve--is CHAVAH which
in hebrew is the feminine form of LIFE-------the creature formed before her is called
ADAM -----uhm-----well DIRT -----well, really "earth" Some people refer to earth
as "DIRT" ------poetically

 

[The Duke]

she's right-----the two words are IN NO WAY----related IN FACT----eve--is CHAVAH which
in hebrew is the feminine form of LIFE-------the creature formed before her is called
ADAM -----uhm-----well DIRT -----well, really "earth" Some people refer to earth
as "DIRT" ------poetically

I was talking about the "Get Thee to a church" thing, but ok.

 

[irosie91]

The experts use the term "dirt", which is earth or ground; "dust" in the Bible.

Eating Dirt: Why People Do It, Dangers, and Purported Benefits

Eating dirt could be a sign of pica, nutritional deficiencies, or a cultural practice known as geophagia. Despite potential benefits, there is a danger for serious health issues.

www.healthline.com

dirt is not the correct word---DIRT connotes filth

 

[Woodznutz]

Damn, you're dense.

God cursed the serpent, then the woman, then the man.

All three separate and distinct.

Eve's 'alter ego' was the serpent. The indwelling spirit brought the curses upon her. So much more to the story. Eve was a type of Lucifer, that's why God addressed her and cursed her as such.

 

[Woodznutz]

dirt is not the correct word---DIRT connotes filth

In this case it means soil, earth, ground.

 

[BreezeWood]

They were never intended to be equals. Thst wasn’t the plan. Unfortunately both attempts to create an assistant for Adam failed massively. Even more unfortunately the second one took Adam with her into a life of sin and death.

the one in the garden and eave together are equals in their relationship and both agreed to choose self determination ...

well, written by muhammad would have met your expectations, most likely - that's not how the narrative is presently written they did converse and agreed to choose self determination over servitude and denial. - just unlike moses claiming sinners ... the heavens rewarded their togetherness and decision w/ a goal to grant their request.

 

[GLASNOST]

You'll have to explain this irrelevancey if you want to make it relevant to the creation story attempting to prove God's existence.

Hint: textbooks and science are irrelevant. If a story claims to prove God's existence, then the story is all you need.