Zone1 The original lie in the Garden of Eden

[The Duke]

Nutz said Eve WAS the Serpent (!!) and now he says no no, Eve was POSSESSED by the Serpent. Two completely different things. Still wrong, on both, but the first one egregious. The guy is never wrong. Pride.

Pride goeth before a fall.

 

[TNHarley]

Are we referring to the ripped off abrahamic version, or the original from Sumter?

 

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Are we referring to the ripped off abrahamic version, or the original from Sumter?

Scholarly consensus holds that the Genesis creation and flood narratives were influenced by and participated in the worldview of older Mesopotamian myths, such as the Babylonian Enuma Elish and the Epic of Gilgamesh, though the biblical authors transformed these themes to establish a unique monotheistic creation account and convey different theological messages about God and humanity. Rather than simply "borrowing," Genesis engaged with these traditions, adapting familiar narrative structures and imagery to present a distinct Israelite perspective on the cosmos and God's relationship with it.

 

[The Duke]

Scholarly consensus holds that the Genesis creation and flood narratives were influenced by and participated in the worldview of older Mesopotamian myths, such as the Babylonian Enuma Elish and the Epic of Gilgamesh, though the biblical authors transformed these themes to establish a unique monotheistic creation account and convey different theological messages about God and humanity. Rather than simply "borrowing," Genesis engaged with these traditions, adapting familiar narrative structures and imagery to present a distinct Israelite perspective on the cosmos and God's relationship with it.

Yeah, well I disagree with their assessment.
Artifacts and history say otherwise.

 

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Yeah, well I disagree with their assessment.
Artifacts and history say otherwise.

Abraham lived in a time when polytheism was the norm. There was a shared heritage and culture.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Abraham lived in a time when polytheism was the norm. There was a shared heritage and culture.

Wait! I thought the bible was authored by God. Not man. All this bit about "Abraham lived in a time when polytheism was the norm" is an admission that the bible is man written.

 

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Wait! I thought the bible was authored by God. Not man. All this bit about "Abraham lived in a time when polytheism was the norm" is an admission that the bible is man written.

Inspired by God. Not authored by God. The accounts in the OT and NT were definitely written by men.

It’s shocking that someone like you who claims to be an expert doesn’t know this.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Inspired by God. Not authored by God. The accounts in the OT and NT were definitely written by men.

It’s shocking that someone like you who claims to be an expert doesn’t know this.

What exactly does "inspired by God" mean to you? Please elaborate and submit any proof (not claims) that it was.

Is it just a hope, a wish, a belief passed down by your elders, something written that you believe only because of that?

 

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What exactly does "inspired by God" mean to you? Please elaborate and submit any proof (not claims) that it was.

Is it just a hope, a wish, a belief passed down by your elders, something written that you believe only because of that?

I thought you were an expert on this.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

I thought you were an expert on this.

You could have said, "I don't know". But you're not honest.

If you ask100Christians, like you, they get that deer-in-the-headlights look and if they have to answer the question will say:
My priest old me
The bible says it is
My dad told me
A nun told me
I must believe it is, or I will go crazy

 

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You could have said, "I don't know". But you're not honest.

If you ask100Christians, like you, they get that deer-in-the-headlights look and if they have to answer the question will say:
My priest old me
The bible says it is
My dad told me
A nun told me
I must believe it is, or I will go crazy

Wait… so you aren’t an expert on the Bible?

 

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You could have said, "I don't know". But you're not honest.

Why would I say I don’t know what inspired means?

Do you know what inspired means?

 

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Inspire:

fill (someone) with the urge or ability to do or feel something, especially to do something creative.

create (a feeling, especially a positive one) in a person.

animate someone with (such a feeling).

give rise to.

 

[Hafar1014]

God was setting man up to "learn the hard way" by allowing the knowledge of good and evil. However, God also allowed Satan and demons free access to man. Without God's spirit indwelling mankind has been influenced more towards evil than towards good. It's still a mystery why God has chosen this for man, but it likely has to do with his anger over the rebellion of Lucifer and the damage that did to his Kingdom.

There is no devil in Genesis Jews who wrote this dont believe in a devil. Genesis is an allegory there is no original sin or fall of man. Its the moral teaching of man and the trial for mans freedom

 

[Woodznutz]

There is no devil in Genesis Jews who wrote this dont believe in a devil. Genesis is an allegory there is no original sin or fall of man. Its the moral teaching of man and the trial for mans freedom

It was written under the direction of a Levite.

 

[irosie91]

It was written under the direction of a Levite.

thanks mr nutz. do you know the name of the specific
levite------I am doing my family tree

 

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thanks mr nutz. do you know the name of the specific
levite------I am doing my family tree

Do you suppose no one had ever heard of Abraham before the time of Moses?

 

[Woodznutz]

thanks mr nutz. do you know the name of the specific
levite------I am doing my family tree

Moses was his name.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Wait… so you aren’t an expert on the Bible?

Another non answer.

 

[Paradoxical#1]

Inspire:

fill (someone) with the urge or ability to do or feel something, especially to do something creative.

create (a feeling, especially a positive one) in a person.

animate someone with (such a feeling).

give rise to.

What a phony you are. You answer questions not asked. I didn't ask you the definition of inspire, and you know and if you keep up this crap, I stop conversing with you. I have no time for juvenile snide responses.