Zone1 The original lie in the Garden of Eden

[Woodznutz]

jesus never claimed life or anything belonged only to humanity much less from the heavens -

any more than nutz claiming a day off work is a commandment, desert dwellers to afraid of their own clergy to just take the day off without insulting the heavens - jesus was not, new the truth and worked as they pleased.

The Sabbath was made for man. Do what you please with it. No Christian will judge you.

 

[GLASNOST]

I don't know what a ToE is but whatever it is it probably makes as much sense as your belief in something that doesn't exist. Why not believe that millions of years ago lamp posts and knotted fences battled for the supremacy of all the heavens and they both lost to prehistoric bunny rabbits who in turn ate the dinosaurs and the rest is well ..... history. Proof of it is in dandelions with odd-numbered petals. There can be no other explanation.

ToE: Theory of Evolution

Thank you. I didn't know that.

 

[BreezeWood]

The Sabbath was made for man. Do what you please with it. No one will judge you.

they murdered people for disobeying their false commandment, judaism their derelict renditions.

- have you opened your store yet on sunday ...

Jesus healed people on the Sabbath, but the Jewish leaders defined this as 'work' which was forbidden.

nutz is blind and culpable to both history and the self made fallacies of the desert religions among other egregious omissions made in the name of christianity.

 

[Woodznutz]

they murdered people for disobeying their false commandment, judaism their derelict renditions.

- have you opened your store yet on sunday ...



nutz is blind and culpable to both history and the self made fallacies of the desert religions among other egregious omissions made in the name of christianity.

Christianity isn't a 'desert religion'. And, Christians don't murder people although they may pound knobs on your head if you break into their house.

 

[onefour1]

Understanding that Adam and Eve had not once experienced death not even in other animals or plants, its easy to see that maybe she didn't fully understand what death was but having seen and talked with God, it is easy to see that she could be heavily tempted to become like him.

 

[BreezeWood]

Christianity isn't a 'desert religion'. And, Christians don't murder people although they may pound knobs on your head if you break into their house.

nutz lives in denial

name any century christianity, all three desert religions are not at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent - they are the history of the conquest of humanity for anything than heavenly goals.

 

[Woodznutz]

nutz lives in denial

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name any century christianity, all three desert religions are not at the forefront of persecution and victimization of the innocent - they are the history of the conquest of humanity for anything than heavenly goals.

Nah. Those were pretenders, just like Constantine. True Christians were hiding from them.

 

[irosie91]

Actually, drinking a Coors Banquet stubby as we speak.

Research what I've said. Your Rabbi studied Hebrew. Maybe he'll explain to you.

I studied hebrew (sorta) Hubby is fluent in both the street version and the classical----what
point of linguistics do you imagine you made?

 

[SweetSue92]

The serpent was a powerful, malignant spirit being, that had possessed Eve.

"Satan is its name and destruction is its game."

Backing away, eh? Changing your story?

You said the serpent WAS EVE in this thread earlier.

What's wrong with your perfectly correct, rock-solid Bible interpretation if you can change your story so easily?

 

[Woodznutz]

I studied hebrew (sorta) Hubby is fluent in both the street version and the classical----what
point of linguistics do you imagine you made?

That actual meaning in Hebrew of "go on your belly".

 

[norwegen]

The original lie is that God wanted to keep Adam and Eve "down" by stopping them from eating of the fruit of knowledge.

Interesting perspective and something I can't really argue against.

Knowledge is not a general knowledge. Why does this assumption persist? It's not what the narrative relates.

 

[Woodznutz]

Backing away, eh? Changing your story?

You said the serpent WAS EVE in this thread earlier.

What's wrong with your perfectly correct, rock-solid Bible interpretation if you can change your story so easily?

When the devil actually possesses someone, in contrast to merely influencing them, there is little difference between the person and the devil. Jesus called Peter "Satan" once as the devil had entered into him and took over his mind. Jesus rebuked the devil and he left Peter.

 

[Anathema]

The original lie is that God wanted to keep Adam and Eve "down" by stopping them from eating of the fruit of knowledge.

Interesting perspective and something I can't really argue against.

The original lie is that women should be given the opportunity to make decisions. That was the problem with both Lilith and Eve.

 

[Votto]

The original lie is that women should be given the opportunity to make decisions. That was the problem with both Lilith and Eve.

And here I thought that Eve made the first decision.

Silly me.

 

[GLASNOST]

The original lie is that women should be given the opportunity to make decisions. ...

Women want the glory but cannot handle the responsibility that goes with it ...... or even the guts to achieve it.

 

[SweetSue92]

When the devil actually possesses someone, in contrast to merely influencing them, there is little difference between the person and the devil. Jesus called Peter "Satan" once as the devil had entered into him and took over his mind. Jesus rebuked the devil and he left Peter.

You said IN THIS THREAD that Eve was the snake. Not that she was POSSESSED by the snake; that she was the snake.

Here, practice saying this:

I

WAS

WRONG

 

[Anathema]

And here I thought that Eve made the first decision.

Silly me.

Both Lilith and Eve proved that women cannot be trusted to make even the easiest of decisions

 

[Woodznutz]

You said IN THIS THREAD that Eve was the snake. Not that she was POSSESSED by the snake; that she was the snake.

Here, practice saying this:

I

WAS

WRONG

God addressed her directly as the serpent just as Jesus addressed Peter directly as Satan. When Eve was talking to the serpent she was talking to herself. Many people hear "voices" inside their head that aren't theirs.

 

[BreezeWood]

When the devil actually possesses someone, in contrast to merely influencing them ...

sad enough you claim to be a christian - to claim someone their spirit can be possessed by a devil is beyond sanity no wonder you have no remorse for the crimes of your religion.

 

[irosie91]

That actual meaning in Hebrew of "go on your belly".

That actual meaning in Hebrew of "go on your belly".

oh----ok----he's sleeping----you got the Hebrew?