Zone1 God's Covenant with Noah

[buttercup]

God often ALLOWS and TOLERATES the less than ideal.

God TOLD you about the ONLY world He called "very good." His ideal world is described in Genesis 1:29. That was a world where Man ate without bloodshed. Man's ONLY job was to CARE FOR the animals God put on this earth.
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Slaughtering came with a FALLEN world.

After the EVIL Age of Man, which ends with the Return, you will not be allowed to slaughter His creation.

IF you are called out of this world, and IF you pray, "your will be done on earth as it is in heaven, you WILL strive to live an Edenic or MILLENNIAL life.

If you call yourself "christian " but argue for the "right" to live as the "fallen", well then your prayer, "your will be done on earth as it is in heaven" is not sincere and God sees your empty words.

That covenant was for the fallen, not the sincere Christian whom God called OUT of this EVIL world

That's what I've been trying to tell people. This is a fallen world, but that doesn't mean that we as Christians should embrace the fallen-ness of the world, and go along with everything the world does. Especially when it's something that involves needless violence, cruelty, abuse, and partaking in truly diabolical practices.

The bible is clear that we are called to different than the world, set apart. You are absolutely right that it's crazy (and sad) to see Christians passionately arguing to live as the fallen, as opposed to "on earth as it is in Heaven" which is what Jesus taught.

 

[Quantrill]

I believe God. There is a lot you don't understand. I will answer legitimate and honest questions, but I know you live to argue. You can argue with others, not me. This OP is a draft of a chapter I'm working on. It is my spiritual journey. You can read it, agree or not. I really don't care. If your attitude is good and your questions are sincere, I will respond, but I won't engage in endless debate because I know how much you love to argue. But here is what you aren't considering;

God often ALLOWS and TOLERATES the less than ideal.

God TOLD you about the ONLY world He called "very good." His ideal world is described in Genesis 1:29. That was a world where Man ate without bloodshed. Man's ONLY job was to CARE FOR the animals God put on this earth.
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Slaughtering came with a FALLEN world.

After the EVIL Age of Man, which ends with the Return, you will not be allowed to slaughter His creation.

IF you are called out of this world, and IF you pray, "your will be done on earth as it is in heaven, you WILL strive to live an Edenic or MILLENNIAL life.

If you call yourself "christian " but argue for the "right" to live as the "fallen", well then your prayer, "your will be done on earth as it is in heaven" is not sincere and God sees your empty words.

That covenant was for the fallen, not the sincere Christian whom God called OUT of this EVIL world

Slaughtering did come after the fall of Adam and Eve, to cover man with clothes. (Gen. 3:21) And for offerings to God. (Gen. 4:4)

But after the fall did his diet change? In man's perfect state and environment, he was given the fruit of the tree and every herb for food. (Gen. 1:29) After the fall his diet was still the herb of the field. (Gen. 3:18) The difference being the ground was now cursed and man would have to slave over it to get it to produce food.

My point is that fallen man from Adam to the Flood was under no command of God to eat meat, that I am aware of. Which I assume you consider to be part of the 'Evil Age of Man'.

And, I am not so sure that you can compare the 'Edenic life' with the 'Millennial life'. During the Millennium there will still be sin and sin offerings. (Ezekiel 46:20) I don't believe God is trying to get us back to the 'Garden'. We are and will forever be a 'redeemed people'. We are and will forever be only righteous by imputation and declaration from God due to our faith in Christ. Which means we will forever need the Blood of Jesus Christ. Don't you think?

I don't believe you can make distinction that the Covenant of Noah was not for the Christian, and just for the fallen. The Christian, as all of mankind is, is fallen as well. All born of Adam are fallen. The Noahic Covenant is made with all born of Noah. (Gen. 9:9) And is an eternal covenant. (Gen. 9:16)

I have no problem with anyone not wanting to eat meat. That's up to the individual. But the eating of meat is certainly authorized by God. And even in eternity I would like to think we can still eat meat.

Quantrill

 

[BreezeWood]

Protein originates from plants in the first place. Where do you think the animals you eat get their protein from? There's no need to eat a decaying corpse to get protein, you can cut out the 'middle-man' and get it straight from the source.

not all plants are the same -

as some may envy the cosine of others that they use only their roots to attain though which is more heavenly is subjective if considering the true heavenly intent for living beings to sustain their lives ... than an obvious conclusion.

Dead animals, along with dead plant matter, are a primary source of soil nutrients, releasing essential elements like nitrogen, phosphorus, and potassium during decomposition to feed plants

their creation, garden earth clearly is carnivorous to some degree for the vast majority if not all beings as fundamental to its existence.

the excesses of desert dwellers to slaughter buffalo to stare indians without remorse is a matter the heavens can never forgive.

 

[BreezeWood]

That's what I've been trying to tell people. This is a fallen world, but that doesn't mean that we as Christians should embrace the fallen-ness of the world, and go along with everything the world does. Especially when it's something that involves needless violence, cruelty, abuse, and partaking in truly diabolical practices.

heavenly garden earth is not a fallen world ... despite the claims of false religions to remove the remorse for sins that are purposely committed to claim otherwise and repeatedly recommit through history.

 

[Woodznutz]

I've lost my taste for beef, since the black Angus replaced the Hereford. It's tough and tasteless. I still like fish and chicken, however.

 

[Woodznutz]

the excesses of desert dwellers to slaughter buffalo to stare indians without remorse is a matter the heavens can never forgive.

Part of "Manifest Destiny", destroying the Amalekite.