1st Capitol rioter to stand trial gets 7 years, the longest sentence for a Jan. 6 defendant so far

[Correll]

Not the same. You really should read your own sources before you post them...

A spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office said it was not probable a conviction could be obtained and sustained given that the nine arrested had been invited and that their escorts had never asked them to leave the building.​

You were making a big deal about PLACE, and suddenly, that fact is not hte important fact. Suddenly PLACE is less important than having an invitation, hours earlier and for other offices.


They were NOT invited in, to remain after hours and harass conservative congressmen. That was a weak ass excuse for the decision to NOT charge the lefties.


A hostile U.S. attorney's office, could just as easily said, something like,


" A spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office, said even though the nine arrested had been invited in earlier in the day, their behavior, especially in the Capitol, was such that a conviction probably could be obtained and sustained. "


The difference here is not the invitation, the difference is the partisan and ideological hostility of the U.S. attorney's office. And that is not a Just reason for different treatment.

That is tyranny.

 

[initforme]

Why all the upheaval over 7 short years?

 

[Correll]

Read the freakin link, dope. Thousands of people were prosecuted for their crimes during the protests.

Where is the massive investigations into who conspired and organized them?

Where is the massive investigations into the dem politicians who may or may not have worked with or supported the riots?

Where is the massive overcharging, so that they can be terrorized into pleas?

Where is the massive politicalized zeal, to put them away for as long as possible, because of the Evul?

ect. ect. ect.



You are welcome to lie to yourself about what is going on here. Don't expect any of us to buy your shit.


And, don't cry when the next level of escalation comes. Because it will. That is what happens when you escalate. It keeps going.


What do you think the next level will be?

 

[Correll]

And I provided the link debunking that claim, that you have not provided a rebuttal for. That means you lose.

no, you didn't. Are you insane?

 

[Correll]

You were provided the links where the one's from BLM did the most damage, and it wasn't BLM. The fact that you cannot change that reality is a testament to your own failure in this debate.

Sounds irrelevant to the point I was making.

 

[Correll]

A crime is a crime you idiot, and the one's committing the crimes are mostly from the Right. Get that in your miniscule brain. You were given the links. If you do not mount a challenge to those links, then you have certainly lost this debate.

Mostly from the Right?

ONE right leaning riot and HUNDREDS of left leaning riots and you claim that?

 

[Correll]

Black Lives Matter Protesters Were Overwhelmingly Peaceful, Our Research Finds | Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study at Harvard University Maybe because most of the protests were peaceful and the agitators were Right-wing militia.

AP finds most arrested in protests aren't leftist radicals

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump portrays the hundreds of people arrested nationwide in protests against racial injustice as violent urban left-wing radicals.

apnews.com

From your link.



"The judge said there are lot of people “who do something stupid that’s dangerous that we don’t even consider detaining.”

“I’m frustrated because I don’t think this is a hard case,” the judge said. “I have defendants in here with significant criminal histories that the government agrees to release.”

“We have no evidence of him — at least that’s been given to me — being a radical or a member of a group that advocates violence toward the police or others. We’ve got no criminal history. … What evidence is there that he’s a danger to society?” the judge asked.

The judge allowed Lartigue to stay out of jail."



That is presented by your link as an example to support your point.


The guy in question? Was caught on camera making a molotov cocktail.



And the judge says there is no evidence of him being a "radical" or a "member of a group that advocates".


And I agree. That's the point.


There might be no evidence that that guy was a member of a group. Maybe he was NOT formally a member of any group.


But, he was there to riot with the lefty movement. He rioted.He made a fucking BOMB, on camera.


And he was released on bail.



If one of the rioters of 1/6 was on film, making a molotov cocktail BOMB, do you think he would have been released on bail?


LOL!!!! I will give you a hint. The answer is NO.

 

[Correll]

Why all the upheaval over 7 short years?

Because lefties thought that demographic shift had already reached a point where people like me, would never have a voice again.


They were very upset to learn otherwise.

 

[Marener]

Because lefties thought that demographic shift had already reached a point where people like me, would never have a voice again.


They were very upset to learn otherwise.

No one is taking your voice. It’s just that your voice isn’t any more important than anyone else’s.

 

[Correll]

No one is taking your voice. It’s just that your voice isn’t any more important than anyone else’s.

Trump ran on jobs and border security. IN any normal situation, that is as boring a platform as you can imagine.


The Left reacted like it was insanely radical.


The implication was clear. It was not what Trump was doing that was the problem, It was his supporters, who were supposed to ALREADY be marginalized forever.


How many times have you lefties gloated about how people like me are "dying off"?


For the first time in decades, we had a voice.


That you respond to that with shit like "isn't any more important than anyone's else" is clearly an attempt to silence us.

 

[Marener]

Trump ran on jobs and border security. IN any normal situation, that is as boring a platform as you can imagine.


The Left reacted like it was insanely radical.


The implication was clear. It was not what Trump was doing that was the problem, It was his supporters, who were supposed to ALREADY be marginalized forever.


How many times have you lefties gloated about how people like me are "dying off"?


For the first time in decades, we had a voice.


That you respond to that with shit like "isn't any more important than anyone's else" is clearly an attempt to silence us.

No, you’ve always had a voice. You never were silenced. What you didn’t have was getting your way. There’s a difference.

You remind me of people who say “take our country back”. It’s one of the most unamerican thing I hear on a regular basis. It’s not yours to take. It belongs to all of us. Trump supporters need to be reminded of this sometimes.

 

[Correll]

No, you’ve always had a voice. You never were silenced. What you didn’t have was getting your way. There’s a difference.

You remind me of people who say “take our country back”. It’s one of the most unamerican thing I hear on a regular basis. It’s not yours to take. It belongs to all of us. Trump supporters need to be reminded of this sometimes.

We aren't the ones that flipped out because we didn't get our way. That was YOUR side, that rioted hundreds of times and even your "peaceful demonstrations" blocked traffic and terrorized people.


When it was "our country" everyone had a voice. Now, NOT us. That's the point.

 

[Marener]

We aren't the ones that flipped out because we didn't get our way. That was YOUR side, that rioted hundreds of times and even your "peaceful demonstrations" blocked traffic and terrorized people.


When it was "our country" everyone had a voice. Now, NOT us. That's the point.

Obama’s presidency was 8 years of the right wing melting down and devolution of conservative politics to conspiratorial lunacy capitalized upon by a charlatan who appealed to the base instincts of the party.

And then when he was voted out by the people, conservatives lost what little grip on reality they had.

 

[Correll]

Obama’s presidency was 8 years of the right wing melting down and devolution of conservative politics to conspiratorial lunacy capitalized upon by a charlatan who appealed to the base instincts of the party.

And then when he was voted out by the people, conservatives lost what little grip on reality they had.

BIg difference between opposing someone on partisan and/or ideological grounds and being shocked and outraged that someone from a certain group, gets their interests represented.

Over and over again, during the Trump years, it was made clear that it was not about policy or even partisanship that the outrage was about, but about people like me, having a turn at all.

 

[Faun]

You were making a big deal about PLACE, and suddenly, that fact is not hte important fact. Suddenly PLACE is less important than having an invitation, hours earlier and for other offices.


They were NOT invited in, to remain after hours and harass conservative congressmen. That was a weak ass excuse for the decision to NOT charge the lefties.


A hostile U.S. attorney's office, could just as easily said, something like,


" A spokesman for the U.S. attorney's office, said even though the nine arrested had been invited in earlier in the day, their behavior, especially in the Capitol, was such that a conviction probably could be obtained and sustained. "


The difference here is not the invitation, the difference is the partisan and ideological hostility of the U.S. attorney's office. And that is not a Just reason for different treatment.

That is tyranny.

LOL

You're truly desperate & insane.

Yes, moron, it's still about the PLACE. AND it's also about the law. We're talking about being in there illegally. Colbert's staff was there legally. Your own link showed that.

 

[Marener]

BIg difference between opposing someone on partisan and/or ideological grounds and being shocked and outraged that someone from a certain group, gets their interests represented.

Over and over again, during the Trump years, it was made clear that it was not about policy or even partisanship that the outrage was about, but about people like me, having a turn at all.

I don’t think you have a good impression of what other people think about you.

The problems with Trump were numerous. Opposition to his tax policy was genuine. Opposition to his immigration policies was genuine. Opposition to his stance with NATO was genuine. Opposition to his changes to the ACA was genuine.

But that’s only part of his effect on the country. Truth be told, Trump didn’t actually have a lot of policy. It wasn’t a period where much legislation was passed. There weren’t that many changes.

Trump’s more significant effects were how he misled people. Under Trump, the truth became a matter of opinion. The intense distrust he instilled in his followers served only to suit his purposes. His friends who committed crimes were innocent and unfairly prosecuted. The people who genuinely opposed him were commies intent on destroying America. This culminated in Jan 6th where he used that distrust to attempt to take away our votes (or voice if you will) because he didn’t believe that the country didn’t re-elect him.

 

[Correll]

LOL

You're truly desperate & insane.

Yes, moron, it's still about the PLACE. AND it's also about the law. We're talking about being in there illegally. Colbert's staff was there legally. Your own link showed that.

no, they weren't. They were there to see other people hours earlier. That was done. They were escorted from the building and then reentered under false pretenses and without an escort, which they knew was not allowed.


If PLACE is what this is about, this would be a big deal. But it's not. They get a pass.

Either PLACE isn't nearly as big a deal as you pretend, or being a lefty trumps even that. Either way supports my claim, that this is about the rioters being Right leaning.

 

[Faun]

no, they weren't. They were there to see other people hours earlier. That was done. They were escorted from the building and then reentered under false pretenses and without an escort, which they knew was not allowed.


If PLACE is what this is about, this would be a big deal. But it's not. They get a pass.

Either PLACE isn't nearly as big a deal as you pretend, or being a lefty trumps even that. Either way supports my claim, that this is about the rioters being Right leaning.

Idiot... again... your own link says they weren't asked to leave.

 

[BWK]

no, you didn't. Are you insane?

No, but I'm about 99% sure you are. The links were posted with the proof, and you came back with nothing.

 

[BWK]

Idiot... again... your own link says they weren't asked to leave.

Critical thinking has never been for him.