How has your marriage been hurt?

[Missouri_Mike]

Yep. Nobody made you go down to the court house and pay the fee and get a license and then have it signed.

You choose to do that, you then choose to register your marriage with said Govt.

None of those things are required by the Bible.

You realize you’re saying the exact same thing as I am only your God and religion is government.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

No, she asked how MY marriage was hurt.

The argument was that that it would belittle the institution of marriage, not that particular couples would be damaged.

The right’s bigotry and hate directed at gay Americans is one of countless reasons why conservatives are appropriately despised.

 

[HeyNorm]

No, marriage is a state function which showers a bunch of cash and prizes on the recipients.

Marriage comes with a thousand government-bestowed benefits. Literally.

None of which have anything to do with God.

And the self-righteous have demanded Caesar render those benefits unto them.

And there we show where the assertion of marriage being for financial benefits has hurt the institution.

1. Marriage bestowed these benefits to those of who are within a demographic group that could actually CREATE an ongoing population that is required for society to exist.

2. If it’s reason is solely for financial benefit, than any restriction on who can marry is completely absurd. Thus its destruction.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Not at all. The argument is that trans women are similarly situated to biological women, so to preclude them from women’s private areas are discriminatory practice.

Therefore, since biological males are similarly situated to trans women, than to preclude males from trans woman’s private areas would be equally discriminatory.

See what happens when you bastardize legal arguments?

And, can you believe that there are still thinks there is such a thing as gay marriage? When we all know that marriage has nothing to do with sexuality? That is, since obergfell. Hell, two straight men can marry after that absurd decision.

For years conservatives have lied and fearmongered that allowing same-sex couples access to marriage law would ‘harm’ marriage.

It’s hasn’t – because it’s a lie.

 

[Mac-7]

The right’s bigotry and hate directed at gay Americans is one of countless reasons why conservatives are appropriately despised.

Its a natural reaction to homosexuals luring children into their perverted gay culture

 

[Mac-7]

You realize you’re saying the exact same thing as I am only your God and religion is government.

Well said

 

[Harpy Eagle]

You realize you’re saying the exact same thing as I am only your God and religion is government.

No, we are saying to totally different things. You are saying that civil marriage does not exist, that all that exist is religious marriage.

I am saying that religious marriage and civil marriage are two separate things, that both can exist without the other being involved.

And you know this to be true because you went out of your way to register your religious marriage with the Govt so that you could reap all the benefits of a civil marriage, benefits a religious marriage does not confer on you

 

[Tommy Tainant]

U.S. Same-Sex Marriage Support Holds at 71% High

Seventy-one percent of Americans think same-sex marriage should be legal, matching the high Gallup recorded in 2022.

news.gallup.com

U.S. Same-Sex Marriage Support Holds at 71% High​

Well it seems that the wierdos making a lot of noise on here are very much part of a declining minority..
The argument has been won and its time to join the human race.
Its a time for America to be proud.Secency and civility have won.

NB I think the 29% are posting on here.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I don't care about one's private life but gays transgenders and bi all want it in your face and normalized. Those lifestyles are not normal by any stretch of the imagination.

Mate you lost.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

Mate you lost.

No society lost

 

[Tommy Tainant]

No society lost

How ?

 

[Harpy Eagle]

How ?

by allowing things they find "icky"

 

[Rawley]

Lots of examples of those claims. Santorum is the first idiot that comes to mind on this subject. He wasn't the only one, however. The crazies had a full-blown meltdown almost daily.

An Argument Against Same-Sex Marriage: An Interview with Rick Santorum

The debate over same-sex marriage in the United States is a contentious one, and advocates on both sides continue to work hard to make their voices heard.

www.pewresearch.org

Except he doesn't argue it's going to hurt his marriage, like you claim.

 

[Couchpotato]

U.S. Same-Sex Marriage Support Holds at 71% High

Seventy-one percent of Americans think same-sex marriage should be legal, matching the high Gallup recorded in 2022.

news.gallup.com

U.S. Same-Sex Marriage Support Holds at 71% High​

Well it seems that the wierdos making a lot of noise on here are very much part of a declining minority..
The argument has been won and its time to join the human race.
Its a time for America to be proud.Secency and civility have won.

NB I think the 29% are posting on here.

That has zero to do with whether gay marriage has or hasn't hurt the institution of marriage.

 

[Rawley]

The right’s bigotry and hate directed at gay Americans is one of countless reasons why conservatives are appropriately despised.

The left's intolerance and hate is driving voters to the Republicans. Keep up the good work!

 

[Couchpotato]

I don't understand why anyone wants to get married for other than religious reasons. What do you get out of it that you dont get out of just a long term relationship? The government should just get out of the "marriage" business

 

[Tommy Tainant]

That has zero to do with whether gay marriage has or hasn't hurt the institution of marriage.

But the responses show that only a minority think so. The vast majority do not believe it to have made a difference. Its just a dwindling minoity of whining crackpots who have a problem. Because true Americans are sound people.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

The left's intolerance and hate is driving voters to the Republicans. Keep up the good work!

yeah, the left is the one trying to stop people from getting married because they find them "icky".

The lack of self-awareness is legendary around here

 

[Harpy Eagle]

I don't understand why anyone wants to get married for other than religious reasons. What do you get out of it that you dont get out of just a long term relationship? The government should just get out of the "marriage" business

Tax Benefits
Filing joint income tax returns with the IRS and state taxing authorities.
Creating a "family partnership" under federal tax laws, which allows you to divide business income among family members.

Estate Planning Benefits
Inheriting a share of your spouse's estate.
Receiving an exemption from both estate taxes and gift taxes for all property you give or leave to your spouse.
Creating life estate trusts that are restricted to married couples, including QTIP trusts, QDOT trusts, and marital deduction trusts.
Obtaining priority if your spouse needs a conservator--that is, someone to make financial or medical decisions on your spouse's behalf.

Government Benefits
Receiving Social Security, Medicare, and disability benefits for spouses.
Receiving veterans' and military benefits for spouses, such as those for education, medical care, or special loans.
Receiving public assistance benefits.

Employment Benefits
Obtaining insurance benefits through a spouse's employer.
Taking family leave to care for your spouse during an illness.
Receiving wages, workers' compensation, and retirement plan benefits for a deceased spouse.
Taking bereavement leave if your spouse or one of your spouse's close relatives dies.

Medical Benefits
Visiting your spouse in a hospital intensive care unit or during restricted visiting hours in other parts of a medical facility.
Making medical decisions if your spouse becomes incapacitated and unable to express wishes for treatment.

Death Benefits
Consenting to after-death examinations and procedures.
Making burial or other final arrangements.

Family Benefits
Filing for stepparent or joint adoption.
Applying for joint foster care rights.
Receiving a share of marital property if you divorce.
Receiving spousal or child support, child custody, and visitation if you divorce.

Housing Benefits
Living in neighborhoods zoned for "families only."
Automatically renewing leases signed by your spouse.

Consumer Benefits
Receiving family rates for health, homeowners', auto, and other types of insurance.
Receiving tuition discounts and permission to use school facilities.
Other consumer discounts and incentives offered only to married couples or families.

Other Legal Benefits and Protections
Suing a third person for wrongful death of your spouse and loss of consortium (loss of intimacy).
Suing a third person for offenses that interfere with the success of your marriage, such as alienation of affection and criminal conversation (these laws are available in only a few states).
Claiming the marital communications privilege, which means a court can't force you to disclose the contents of confidential communications made between you and your spouse during your marriage.
Receiving crime victims' recovery benefits if your spouse is the victim of a crime.
Obtaining immigration and residency benefits for noncitizen spouse.
Visiting rights in jails and other places where visitors are restricted to immediate family.

 

[Rawley]

yeah, the left is the one trying to stop people from getting married because they find them "icky".

fail. My daughter doesn't want to race against a boy and she's banned from competition for the rest of the year

The lack of self-awareness is legendary around here

Irony award of the day