Authoritarianism Again Arises

[22lcidw]

The growing affinity for authoritarianism in the GOP was evident in the Party's affection for Putin.

Kinzinger Slams Pro-Putin Republicans, 'Affection for Authoritarianism'​

February 13, 2022​

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The U.S. and its Western European allies have increasingly raised alarms that Russia appears to be on the cusp of invading Ukraine—although Moscow has repeatedly downplayed or rejected these concerns.​

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Kinzinger was asked... about Republicans voicing such views, which many see as playing into Putin's hand.​

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... "I don't think it's a huge portion, but it's way too big and it's growing and it's a huge concern... Now there's a significant number of folks doing it with Tucker Carlson talking about, you know, how great Vladimir Putin is and how Ukraine is really actually part of Russia," the GOP lawmaker said.​

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Kinzinger said he thinks "it's an affection for authoritarianism. And I think Vladimir Putin has done a decent job of engaging in culture battles and culture war, and he is seen as the person defending, in essence, the culture of the past."​

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Kinzinger slams pro-Putin Republicans, "affection for authoritarianism"

"This is a frightening moment," the GOP lawmaker said on Sunday.

www.newsweek.com

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Incorrecto! Putin is a nationalist who believes in his nation. The United States is being shoved into a globalist government and we are being downsized and to many people here are too stupid to realize it or actually want it. Worrying about Ukraine's borders as a sovereign nation while our Southern border is a sieve is pure stupidity on the people. Let the currency collapse in the United States and watch the fun.

 

[schmidlap]

Traditional Republican conservative John Dean, commenting on his 2007 Conservatives Without Conscience:

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The Grand Old Republican Party is controlled by authoritarian conservatives... More specifically, as I broadly outlined in my last column, the research of social scientists such as Bob Altemeyer has revealed the personality traits of both those authoritarians who are followers, and those who are their leaders... Altemeyer labeled these people "right-wing authoritarians" not because he was looking to target political conservatives, but rather because he was drawing broadly on the historical terms that identify those who openly submit to established authorities, and whether those authorities are political, economic or religious, those who submit to them are traditionally described as being on the right wing. As Altemeyer developed and refined his testing, however, it became apparent that those who tested as highly submissive to economic or religious authorities also proved to be hard-right political conservatives.​

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In addition to being especially submissive to established authority, Altemeyer's research revealed that those he calls right-wing authoritarians also show "general aggressiveness" towards others, when such behavior is "perceived to be sanctioned" by established authorities. {See Trump goons insisting HE sent them to the Capitol.} Finally, these people are always highly compliant with the social conventions endorsed by society and established authorities. These basic traits, submissiveness to authority and conventionality, are the essence of those Altemeyer describes as right-wing authoritarians. If these traits are not present in some significant (albeit varying) degree, he does not consider the subject to be a right-wing authoritarian. However, these people can, and often do, consistently reveal they have many other interesting traits as well.​

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Based on Altemeyer's study, as well as those of other social psychologists, I prepared a list of the additional traits that these personalities, both men and women who test high as right-wing authoritarians, often evidence: highly religious, moderate to little education, trust untrustworthy authorities, prejudiced (particularly against homosexuals, women, and followers of religions other than their own), mean-spirited, narrow-minded, intolerant, bullying, zealous, dogmatic, uncritical toward their chosen authority, hypocritical, inconsistent and contradictory, prone to panic easily, highly self-righteous, moralistic, strict disciplinarian, severely punitive, demands loyalty and returns it, little self-awareness, usually politically and economically conservative/Republican.​

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They are also highly defensive, sensitive to revealing insights such as those above, given to hysterical tantrums rather that thoughtful responses, far more apt to lash out than reflect.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Traditional Republican conservative John Dean

More like a whiney Dem twat.

 

[schmidlap]

Traditional Republican conservative John Dean

More like a whiney Dem twat.

Your lack of a coherent response reeks of dogmatic authoritarianism.

Meanwhile, the statist attempt to suppress free expression in the free market is not selling with non-authoritarians:

A bipartisan majority of U.S. voters oppose politicians punishing companies over their stances on social issues, a cold reception for campaigns like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis' against Walt Disney Co (DIS.N), a Reuters/Ipsos poll found.​

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The two-day poll completed on Thursday showed that 62% of Americans - including 68% of Democrats and 55% of Republicans - said they were less likely to back a candidate who supports going after companies for their views.​

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Americans do not support politicians punishing firms for their views, Reuters/Ipsos poll finds

A bipartisan majority of U.S. voters oppose politicians punishing companies over their stances on social issues, a cold reception for campaigns like Florida Governor Ron DeSantis' against Walt Disney Co , a Reuters/Ipsos poll found.

www.reuters.com

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[C_Clayton_Jones]

I agree. Censorship is classic fascism and the left are masters at it. Political correctness is censorship with manners.

This is both ignorant and wrong.

Fascism is on the right side of the political spectrum.

The left has always stood in opposition to fascism.

For American conservatives, fascism manifests as white grievance politics, racist replacement theory, and the right’s efforts to demonize and disadvantage gay and transgender Americans.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Of course. Trump goons attacking Congress must be rationalized - but only after the lies have failed.

Rep. Matt Gaetz and other GOP politicians baselessly blame Antifa

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And the fascist right continues to attempt to ‘justify’ the 1/6 rightwing terrorist attack on America’s democracy.

Rightwing fascism is the enemy of democracy, which is why conservatives seek to violate citizens’ right to vote, undermine the political process, and destroy our democratic institutions.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The growing affinity for authoritarianism in the GOP was evident in the Party's affection for Putin.

Kinzinger Slams Pro-Putin Republicans, 'Affection for Authoritarianism'​

February 13, 2022​

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The U.S. and its Western European allies have increasingly raised alarms that Russia appears to be on the cusp of invading Ukraine—although Moscow has repeatedly downplayed or rejected these concerns.​

​

Kinzinger was asked... about Republicans voicing such views, which many see as playing into Putin's hand.​

​

... "I don't think it's a huge portion, but it's way too big and it's growing and it's a huge concern... Now there's a significant number of folks doing it with Tucker Carlson talking about, you know, how great Vladimir Putin is and how Ukraine is really actually part of Russia," the GOP lawmaker said.​

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Kinzinger said he thinks "it's an affection for authoritarianism. And I think Vladimir Putin has done a decent job of engaging in culture battles and culture war, and he is seen as the person defending, in essence, the culture of the past."​

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Kinzinger slams pro-Putin Republicans, "affection for authoritarianism"

"This is a frightening moment," the GOP lawmaker said on Sunday.

www.newsweek.com

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Correct.

As authoritarian fascists, conservatives are attracted to illiberal autocratic despots and dictators, such as Bolsonaro, Orbán, and Putin.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

And the fascist right continues to attempt to ‘justify’ the 1/6 rightwing terrorist attack on America’s democracy.

Rightwing fascism is the enemy of democracy, which is why conservatives seek to violate citizens’ right to vote, undermine the political process, and destroy our democratic institutions.

If that's the way you feel, join me in promoting the separation of our country; have two countries instead of one. One side for leftists and the other side for us righties. If we did that, you would never have to put up with us again, and if my side was chosen for the conservative side and leftists had to move, my property value would double or more overnight.

 

[there4eyeM]

The dictatorship of the duopoly may not have gone to its extreme authoritative point yet, but given the opportunity...

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

If that's the way you feel, join me in promoting the separation of our country; have two countries instead of one. One side for leftists and the other side for us righties. If we did that, you would never have to put up with us again, and if my side was chosen for the conservative side and leftists had to move, my property value would double or more overnight.

Florida is currently the epicenter of rightwing neo-fascist authoritarianism, with measures passed to violate the First Amendment rights of social media, the privacy rights of women, and school boards engaged in banning books.

The racist gerrymandering scheme passed by Florida Republicans is among the more reprehensible manifestations of rightwing neo-fascist authoritarianism.

Last, the conservative war on gay and transgender Americans illustrates the depth of bigotry and hate among the neo-fascist, authoritarian right.

 

[BS Filter]

This is both ignorant and wrong.

Fascism is on the right side of the political spectrum.

The left has always stood in opposition to fascism.

For American conservatives, fascism manifests as white grievance politics, racist replacement theory, and the right’s efforts to demonize and disadvantage gay and transgender Americans.

Bogus. Fascism is trying to shut people up. American citizens have the right to speak their opinions. You would like to shut them up when they voice an opinion that you don't like. You just said so.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Florida is currently the epicenter of rightwing neo-fascist authoritarianism, with measures passed to violate the First Amendment rights of social media, the privacy rights of women, and school boards engaged in banning books.

The racist gerrymandering scheme passed by Florida Republicans is among the more reprehensible manifestations of rightwing neo-fascist authoritarianism.

Last, the conservative war on gay and transgender Americans illustrates the depth of bigotry and hate among the neo-fascist, authoritarian right.

So you're with me, correct? You approve of having your own country where you would have none of that, right?

 

[there4eyeM]

Florida is currently the epicenter of rightwing neo-fascist authoritarianism, with measures passed to violate the First Amendment rights of social media, the privacy rights of women, and school boards engaged in banning books.

The racist gerrymandering scheme passed by Florida Republicans is among the more reprehensible manifestations of rightwing neo-fascist authoritarianism.

Last, the conservative war on gay and transgender Americans illustrates the depth of bigotry and hate among the neo-fascist, authoritarian right.

It's true that attacking and vilifying such a small minority is as ridiculous as promoting it.

 

[schmidlap]

And the fascist right continues to attempt to ‘justify’ the 1/6 rightwing terrorist attack on America’s democracy.

Rightwing fascism is the enemy of democracy, which is why conservatives seek to violate citizens’ right to vote, undermine the political process, and destroy our democratic institutions.

Again, John Dean, and social scientist Bob Altemeyer whom he cites, were prescient when they wrote, well before the rise of Trumpery,:

The Grand Old Republican Party is controlled by authoritarian conservatives... ​

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... the personality traits of both those authoritarians who are followers, and those who are their leaders... those who tested as highly submissive to economic or religious authorities also proved to be hard-right political conservatives.​

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... right-wing authoritarians also show "general aggressiveness" towards others, when such behavior is "perceived to be sanctioned" by established authorities. Finally, these people are always highly compliant with the social conventions endorsed by society and established authorities. These basic traits, submissiveness to authority and conventionality, are the essence of... right-wing authoritarians. ​

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[A]dditional traits that these personalities, both men and women who test high as right-wing authoritarians, often evidence: highly religious, moderate to little education, trust untrustworthy authorities, prejudiced (particularly against homosexuals, women, and followers of religions other than their own), mean-spirited, narrow-minded, intolerant, bullying, zealous, dogmatic, uncritical toward their chosen authority, hypocritical, inconsistent and contradictory, prone to panic easily, highly self-righteous, moralistic, strict disciplinarian, severely punitive, demands loyalty and returns it, little self-awareness, usually politically and economically conservative/Republican.​

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[Posit]

Florida is currently the epicenter of rightwing neo-fascist authoritarianism, with measures passed to violate the First Amendment rights of social media, the privacy rights of women, and school boards engaged in banning books.

The racist gerrymandering scheme passed by Florida Republicans is among the more reprehensible manifestations of rightwing neo-fascist authoritarianism.

Last, the conservative war on gay and transgender Americans illustrates the depth of bigotry and hate among the neo-fascist, authoritarian right.

So, in short, you object to democratic practices enshrined in our Constitution.

Pore little feller...

 

[boedicca]

Traditional Republican conservative John Dean, commenting on his 2007 Conservatives Without Conscience:

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The Grand Old Republican Party is controlled by authoritarian conservatives... More specifically, as I broadly outlined in my last column, the research of social scientists such as Bob Altemeyer has revealed the personality traits of both those authoritarians who are followers, and those who are their leaders... Altemeyer labeled these people "right-wing authoritarians" not because he was looking to target political conservatives, but rather because he was drawing broadly on the historical terms that identify those who openly submit to established authorities, and whether those authorities are political, economic or religious, those who submit to them are traditionally described as being on the right wing. As Altemeyer developed and refined his testing, however, it became apparent that those who tested as highly submissive to economic or religious authorities also proved to be hard-right political conservatives.​

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In addition to being especially submissive to established authority, Altemeyer's research revealed that those he calls right-wing authoritarians also show "general aggressiveness" towards others, when such behavior is "perceived to be sanctioned" by established authorities. {See Trump goons insisting HE sent them to the Capitol.} Finally, these people are always highly compliant with the social conventions endorsed by society and established authorities. These basic traits, submissiveness to authority and conventionality, are the essence of those Altemeyer describes as right-wing authoritarians. If these traits are not present in some significant (albeit varying) degree, he does not consider the subject to be a right-wing authoritarian. However, these people can, and often do, consistently reveal they have many other interesting traits as well.​

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Based on Altemeyer's study, as well as those of other social psychologists, I prepared a list of the additional traits that these personalities, both men and women who test high as right-wing authoritarians, often evidence: highly religious, moderate to little education, trust untrustworthy authorities, prejudiced (particularly against homosexuals, women, and followers of religions other than their own), mean-spirited, narrow-minded, intolerant, bullying, zealous, dogmatic, uncritical toward their chosen authority, hypocritical, inconsistent and contradictory, prone to panic easily, highly self-righteous, moralistic, strict disciplinarian, severely punitive, demands loyalty and returns it, little self-awareness, usually politically and economically conservative/Republican.​

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Why Authoritarians Now Control the Republican Party The Rise of Authoritarian Conservatism | FindLaw

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They are also highly defensive, sensitive to revealing insights such as those above, given to hysterical tantrums rather that thoughtful responses, far more apt to lash out than reflect.

Here's a clue, bub: The GOP did not set up the DGB Biden Ministry of Truth.

Get a grip.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

For American conservatives, fascism manifests as white grievance politics, racist replacement theory, and the right’s efforts to demonize and disadvantage gay and transgender Americans.

And lower taxes and smaller government.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

As authoritarian fascists, conservatives are attracted to illiberal autocratic despots and dictators,

No fair, only authoritarian fascist leftists are allowed to be attracted to illiberal autocratic despots and dictators.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

The racist gerrymandering scheme passed by Florida Republicans is among the more reprehensible manifestations of rightwing neo-fascist authoritarianism.

Which liberal gerrymandering schemes aren't racist? Where?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Which liberal gerrymandering schemes aren't racist? Where?

He speaks of authoritarianism as if he didn't read the commie Voters Rights act they're trying to pass that attempts to strip away states rights in voting. Oh wait a minute, he probably didn't.