China has transformed from a traditional society into a communist totalitarian state.

[Lockback]

America pulled itself out of poverty long before the Grest Depression happened

Neither Hoover or FDR and their big government polivies had much to do with the economic recovery

WWI was mostly responsible for that

Of course, you are absolutely correct.
All the nonsense about FDR saving us with his welfare state New Deal is just that ... nonsense.
It was the industrial might of the nation being awakened after December 7, 1941 that pulled us out.

 

[JoeB131]

America pulled itself out of poverty long before the Grest Depression happened

Um, no, you have that in reverse. Before the Great Depression, 70% of Americans lived below the poverty line. they lived in impoverished towns and tenements.

The New Deal redistributed the wealth and created an American Middle Class.

Neither Hoover or FDR and their big government polivies had much to do with the economic recovery

WWI was mostly responsible for that

Did you mean WWII? (Because we were still pretty ******* poor after WWI)

Of course, you are absolutely correct.
All the nonsense about FDR saving us with his welfare state New Deal is just that ... nonsense.
It was the industrial might of the nation being awakened after December 7, 1941 that pulled us out.

Americans at the time felt differently, which is why the Democrats won five consecutive elections.

The only way Republicans won was Ike promising he wouldn't try to reverse the gains made under the New Deal.

 

[Lockback]

Americans at the time felt differently, which is why the Democrats won five consecutive elections.

The only way Republicans won was Ike promising he wouldn't try to reverse the gains made under the New Deal.

Oh, I remember people saying, "Boy, if it wasn't for FDR ... blah blah blah ...", proving that even then, Democrats were stupid.

 

[JoeB131]

Oh, I remember people saying, "Boy, if it wasn't for FDR ... blah blah blah ...", proving that even then, Democrats were stupid.

FDR created the American middle class by putting the government on the side of the working class over the investor class.

 

[Lockback]

FDR created the American middle class by putting the government on the side of the working class over the investor class.

Bullshit.

 

[Mac-7]

Um, no, you have that in reverse. Before the Great Depression, 70% of Americans lived below the poverty line. they lived in impoverished towns and tenements.

And even at that it was an upgrade from where they immigrated from