The US is trending towards authoritarian government under Trump

[ElmerMudd]

This would be a good post, but there is just one thing wrong. You are blaming the wrong political party and group. It's the Democrats that have screwed this country over, and they ushered in every fearful bad thing that you claim is not destroying the nation or challenging the very foundation that it stands upon. They are, and they won't stop until they change the nation into an unrecognizable undesirable place. NYC is finding out fast. California is living hell right now.

Open your closed fricking mind. This thinking, by some on the right and some on the left, is our biggest problem.

 

[Anathema]

Who are "your people"?

“My people” in this context would be the 17th Century Northern European immigrants who came to this country and tamed the wilderness of the eastern shores of North America.

 

[ElmerMudd]

You attempting to use the alledged past of a current president, and then doing so in order to justify the leftist sick agendas, and to justify the undermining of this nation is as bad and twisted as it gets.

Are you shitting me. His immorality comes out daily. How about today, threatening to kill 93 million people. Has a world leader ever threatened such a thing. You have to have morals and ethics to see what Trump is doing is immoral.

Trump's Threat to "Kill a Whole Civilization"​

 

[Papageorgio]

We have done it for 248 years until Donald Trump took the Presidency and would only hire yes people. Then he tried to destroy Judicial and legislative checks on his power.

There was deep divide in political leanings with the founding fathers but they were smart enough, mature enoug, to find a way to come togethe to form our government.
The problem is not a particular political party. THE PROBLEM IS EXTREMISTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM WHO REFUSE TO COMPROMISE. You are one.

Extremists be damned.

I believe it is our political parties giving the Executive Office too much power, and each Presidency it continues. I understand presidents need to get things done, and frustration over Congress but we have a system in place and we follow it.

 

[Papageorgio]

Are you shitting me. His immorality comes out daily. How about today, threatening to kill 93 million people. Has a world leader ever threatened such a thing. You have to have morals and ethics to see what Trump is doing is immoral.

Trump's Threat to "Kill a Whole Civilization"​

Hyperbole as Trump has always done and not ever carried out.

 

[Anarchy666]

Good, authoritarianism is more effective and stable compared to the messy degenerate clown car of democracy.

 

[Marener]

No it's not equivalent to the do nothing priors, because he has exceeded all expectations in trying to battle back the Democrats for 77 million voter's who had had enough of the deranged Democrats..

You’re delusional.

 

[beagle9]

We have done it for 248 years until Donald Trump took the Presidency and would only hire yes people. Then he tried to destroy Judicial and legislative checks on his power.

There was deep divide in political leanings with the founding fathers but they were smart enough, mature enoug, to find a way to come togethe to form our government.
The problem is not a particular political party. THE PROBLEM IS EXTREMISTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE POLITICAL SPECTRUM WHO REFUSE TO COMPROMISE. You are one.

Extremists be damned.

When are you going to understand that the nation had reached critical mass, so a character like Trump who isn't afraid to challenge the deranged domestic anarchist was definitely the exact man for the job ? His accomplishments are to many to list at just a year+ after the election. He isn't done yet, so the gnashing and whaling will continue with the radical Democrats. They can only blame themselves for Trump, and that's a fact.

 

[beagle9]

Are you shitting me. His immorality comes out daily. How about today, threatening to kill 93 million people. Has a world leader ever threatened such a thing. You have to have morals and ethics to see what Trump is doing is immoral.

Trump's Threat to "Kill a Whole Civilization"​

You must be young and a low information voter. WW2 saw terrible destruction and death, and yet it ushered in a peace that has lasted for generations since. Just admit it that you are a coward that is afraid to help your fellow world citizen's to tackle an issue that threatens an entire civilization....Now go cry in the corner.

 

[beagle9]

I believe it is our political parties giving the Executive Office too much power, and each Presidency it continues. I understand presidents need to get things done, and frustration over Congress but we have a system in place and we follow it.

Depends on the condition of the populous. In the 1800s President Lincoln had to take extreme measure in order to reunite the union under a one nation under God with liberty and justice for all banner.

George Washington had to lead men to victory against the mighty Brittish empire, so it isn't like the President's haven't had to go to the extreme in order to bring this nation back together again in the past.

 

[CowboyTed]

All you have to see is the Trump administration backing of Orban...

Orban is in the pocket of Russia and China... China support him because he tries to veto all European legislation to curb China.
Does the same for Russia with Ukraine...

Orban is very corrupt. The richest man in Hungary is a a former pipefitter and childhood friend of Prime Minister Viktor Orbán. Get that!... That is pure corruption. It is so bad EU has withheld funds to help Hungary that is now at 19bn euro...

Orban has also consolidated the Media under his control.

Any US conservative would have nothing to do with him.

Sunday's vote will be interesting...

 

[ElmerMudd]

I believe it is our political parties giving the Executive Office too much power, and each Presidency it continues. I understand presidents need to get things done, and frustration over Congress but we have a system in place and we follow it.

I agree. An expediant dictatorship results in way too many unhappy people. But in a democratic Republic of 330 million people there needs to be compromise. Those that will not compromise are the problem

 

[ElmerMudd]

Hyperbole as Trump has always done and not ever carried out.

TACO

 

[ElmerMudd]

When are you going to understand that the nation had reached critical mass, so a character like Trump who isn't afraid to challenge the deranged domestic anarchist was definitely the exact man for the job ? His accomplishments are to many to list at just a year+ after the election. He isn't done yet, so the gnashing and whaling will continue with the radical Democrats. They can only blame themselves for Trump, and that's a fact.

We livein different worlds. I am happy to leave it that way.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

The US is trending towards authoritarian government under Trump.
Review the basic characteristics of a government heading towart authoritarian ism and the US is experiencing almost all under Trump,
If a left wing zealot is elected next, they will have the excessive powers to do what they want.

What are the top elements of the authoritarian playbook?

1. Divide and rule: Foment mistrust and fear; actively scapegoat and pit groups against each other.
2. Spread lies and conspiracies: Actively promote mis/disinfo; undermine the public’s belief in truth.
3. Destroy checks and balances and undermine institutions: Quietly use legal or pseudo-legal rationales to gut institutions (bureaucracies, courts, electoral institutions), undermine their independence, and weaken opposition.
4. Demonize opponents and independent media: Undermine the public’s trust in those actors and institutions that hold the state accountable.
5. Undermine civil and political rights and criminalize dissent: Actively suppress free speech, the right to assembly and protest and the rights of women and minority groups; restrict NGO activities.
6. Blame minorities, immigrants, and “outsiders” for a country’s problems: Exploit national humiliation while promising to restore national glory.
7. Deploy military forces to address public security problems and/or declare national emergencies to seize unconstitutional powers.
8. Reward loyalists and punish defectors: Make in-group members fearful to voice dissention.
9. Encourage or condone violence to advance political goals: Dehumanize opposition and/or out-groups to justify violence against them.
10. Organize mass rallies to keep supporters mobilized against made-up threats: Use fearmongering and hate speech to consolidate in-group identity and solidarity.
11. Make people feel like they are powerless to change things: Solutions will only come from the top.

You do know all this occurred under Obama and Biden

 

[Chuz Life]

The US is trending towards authoritarian government under Trump.
Review the basic characteristics of a government heading towart authoritarian ism and the US is experiencing almost all under Trump,
If a left wing zealot is elected next, they will have the excessive powers to do what they want.

What are the top elements of the authoritarian playbook?

1. Divide and rule: Foment mistrust and fear; actively scapegoat and pit groups against each other.
2. Spread lies and conspiracies: Actively promote mis/disinfo; undermine the public’s belief in truth.
3. Destroy checks and balances and undermine institutions: Quietly use legal or pseudo-legal rationales to gut institutions (bureaucracies, courts, electoral institutions), undermine their independence, and weaken opposition.
4. Demonize opponents and independent media: Undermine the public’s trust in those actors and institutions that hold the state accountable.
5. Undermine civil and political rights and criminalize dissent: Actively suppress free speech, the right to assembly and protest and the rights of women and minority groups; restrict NGO activities.
6. Blame minorities, immigrants, and “outsiders” for a country’s problems: Exploit national humiliation while promising to restore national glory.
7. Deploy military forces to address public security problems and/or declare national emergencies to seize unconstitutional powers.
8. Reward loyalists and punish defectors: Make in-group members fearful to voice dissention.
9. Encourage or condone violence to advance political goals: Dehumanize opposition and/or out-groups to justify violence against them.
10. Organize mass rallies to keep supporters mobilized against made-up threats: Use fearmongering and hate speech to consolidate in-group identity and solidarity.
11. Make people feel like they are powerless to change things: Solutions will only come from the top.

 

[ElmerMudd]

You must be young and a low information voter. WW2 saw terrible destruction and death, and yet it ushered in a peace that has lasted for generations since. Just admit it that you are a coward that is afraid to help your fellow world citizen's to tackle an issue that threatens an entire civilization....Now go cry in the corner.

I don't think even Hitler ever said I am going to kill a civilization.
Trump is such a bullshitter you can't take anything he says as truth. He is turning into a joke of the world.
Trump should conduct himself like Eisenhower, Roosevelt, Churchill did in WWII.Not like a crazed used car salesman.

 

[ElmerMudd]

You do know all this occurred under Obama and Biden

There were tiny steps under Bush, Obama, and Biden. Trump is taking giant steps.

 

[Lockback]

I don't think even Hitler ever said I am going to kill a civilization.
Trump is such a bullshitter you can't take anything he says as truth. He is turning into a joke of the world.
Trump should conduct himself like Eisenhower, Roosevelt, Churchill did in WWII.Not like a crazed used car salesman.

Trump certainly has shaken up the Establishment.
Eisenhower, Roosevelt and Churchill didn't have to deal with a radical Islamic regime dead set on getting nuclear devices.
I understand the cringing at Trump's style. I really do. Even I wince now and then. But the fact is he's got the guts to do things that Presidents past should have done long ago and kept kicking that can down the road.

 

[beagle9]

There were tiny steps under Bush, Obama, and Biden. Trump is taking giant steps.

So