Practice Saying "ACA"

[JakeStarkey]

ACA is turning out to a boon for the citizen, business, and the tax payer. Good deal. Just like it is in all westernized nations who have national health care.

So not content with having been outed as an extremely liberal Democrat, Jammie-Jake takes it a step further and reveals himself a European Style Socialist in the first degree!

Now, feel better about yourself?

Being a modern Republican does not make me a socialist, but you sound like a far right christian fascist. You live in a democracy. Get over it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

How old are you?
Employers will compare the cost of paying higher premiums with the cost of paying the penalty. IN general paying the penalty will be cheaper, and their lower paid employees will qualify for subsidies anyway. Result: Lots of cancelled policies.

As I explained earlier, this is failed logic as can be seen by the fact that it has always been cheaper for employers to not provide insurance, and yet they have been providing it long before a mandate to do so.

And premiums have been climbing for decades, again long before the ACA. If employers drop their employees, it won't be because of the ACA, it will be because they would have dropped them regardless if there is an ACA or no ACA.

The mandate penalty actually makes it LESS cheaper to not provide insurance than it was before ObamaCare.

What we will see is that some employers who currently do not provide insurance will start providing insurance because of the mandate, while some will choose to pay the penalty instead.

We certainly won't come anywhere close to approaching the 93 million disenrolled employees the more retarded hucksters have claimed we will see.

Employers have already been laying off and not hiring because of obutthurtcare. You denying that is one more reason you are an idiot.

You guys are frantic! UE is coming down, employers are hiring again, GDP was 3.5% (close to 3.1% in actuality), and the far right is collapsing.

It's over, guys.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Oh, wait, it's listening, the clone of EC. Heavens help the bishop if they are in the same LDS Ward. He will be praying each night, "Lord, take me now."

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

How old are you?
Employers will compare the cost of paying higher premiums with the cost of paying the penalty. IN general paying the penalty will be cheaper, and their lower paid employees will qualify for subsidies anyway. Result: Lots of cancelled policies.

As I explained earlier, this is failed logic as can be seen by the fact that it has always been cheaper for employers to not provide insurance, and yet they have been providing it long before a mandate to do so.

And premiums have been climbing for decades, again long before the ACA. If employers drop their employees, it won't be because of the ACA, it will be because they would have dropped them regardless if there is an ACA or no ACA.

The mandate penalty actually makes it LESS cheaper to not provide insurance than it was before ObamaCare. Before ObamaCare there was no penalty for dropping your employees due to the rising premiums we have been experiencing for decades.

What we will see is that some employers who currently do not provide insurance will start providing insurance because of the mandate, while some will choose to pay the penalty instead.

We certainly won't come anywhere close to approaching the 93 million disenrolled employees the more retarded hucksters have claimed we will see.

Your argument fails because employers are not responsible for rising premiums.

Rising premiums costs are ALWAYS the result of rising demand and low availability. Can't be any other way.

Add to that natural law, the separation of the end user of the product/service... from the cost associated with the delivery of the product and/or service and the costs of such MUST EXPLODE and will do so until it rises beyond the means of the market to sustain those costs.

What you geniuses are trying to do, is to extend the separation and SUBSIDIZE THE COSTS... maintaining them well beyond the means of the market to sustain those costs, which can only produce the result typical of policy spawned from your special genius... that which is known as: CATASTROPHIC FAILURE!

Now let's review the most recent experience wherein policy spawned by the 'feelings' of the Left sought to substitute the sound, actuarial lending principles with your own special perversion of 'fairness'.

If you'll recall, that policy resulted into the collapse of the international financial markets... which to this day continues to threaten of the financial viability of the United States.

Which given the 'special' genius of you on the Left, since that catastrophic failure... what did you people do? Ya elected a cult which managed to increase US Federal deficits to 1500 billion PER YEAR! Adding, since the collapse of the US economy... another 7 trillion dollars in direct US federal debt... doubling all of the debt incurred by the US since it's INCEPTION.

Now... here we are with you're dark plan to cripple 1/7th of the US Economy... even as the Fed sits on its annual trillions which is propping up the Equity and Debt Markets, inflating the currency to the edge of their means to imagine they 'control' it... all of which will itself drive up towards the point where the market can no longer sustain it... and...

Guess what happens THEN?

No Subsidies...

No Insurance...

No Currency...

No Social Security...

No Medicaid...

No Medicare...

No obamacare...

BRILLIANT!

None of that has happened- or is happening, brainwashed hater dupe lol. Change the channel and get some fresh air.

Booosh's last budget was 1.2 trillion deficit, now it's 400 billion, all assistance for victims of the corrupt Boosh World Depression. Only cost 5 trillion to avert the effects.

You're speaking of the period after 2007 when the Left hijacked control of the US Legislature, wherein the majority they enjoyed required ZERO Republican votes to pass law? Which came at precisely the same time that the socialist policy wherein decades of coercion by the Left, forcing the Financial Markets to substitute the sound, actuarial lending principle for the Left's perverse understanding of "Fairness", crashed and burned the international financial markets?

Where the FULLY LEFTIST LEGISLATURE SPENT A TRILLION BUCKS TO BAIL OUT THOSE EVIL BANKERS? Which GW foolishly went along with... of course.


And you want to blame Bush for that? Without your having to admit the failures were SOLELY the result of the REJECTION OF NATURAL LAW? And that the Left (YOU) stand for nothing if ya don't stand for rejecting natural law... so, everyone involved in that crash was engaging in the acceptance of the supreme foolishness OKA: Left-think... Which you're here to promote as the thing we should now embrace, to fix that which you broke... using THAT?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Love the Christian Dominionists like keys. They are nuts!

I will post a thread in a few minutes because the great majority of you have no idea how nuts is Where r my keys, truly.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Real-life sticker shock I m getting reamed by Obamacare - Allen B. West - AllenBWest.com

Who said it was 5.9%?

 

[francoHFW]

How old are you?
Employers will compare the cost of paying higher premiums with the cost of paying the penalty. IN general paying the penalty will be cheaper, and their lower paid employees will qualify for subsidies anyway. Result: Lots of cancelled policies.

As I explained earlier, this is failed logic as can be seen by the fact that it has always been cheaper for employers to not provide insurance, and yet they have been providing it long before a mandate to do so.

And premiums have been climbing for decades, again long before the ACA. If employers drop their employees, it won't be because of the ACA, it will be because they would have dropped them regardless if there is an ACA or no ACA.

The mandate penalty actually makes it LESS cheaper to not provide insurance than it was before ObamaCare. Before ObamaCare there was no penalty for dropping your employees due to the rising premiums we have been experiencing for decades.

What we will see is that some employers who currently do not provide insurance will start providing insurance because of the mandate, while some will choose to pay the penalty instead.

We certainly won't come anywhere close to approaching the 93 million disenrolled employees the more retarded hucksters have claimed we will see.

Your argument fails because employers are not responsible for rising premiums.

Rising premiums costs are ALWAYS the result of rising demand and low availability. Can't be any other way.

Add to that natural law, the separation of the end user of the product/service... from the cost associated with the delivery of the product and/or service and the costs of such MUST EXPLODE and will do so until it rises beyond the means of the market to sustain those costs.

What you geniuses are trying to do, is to extend the separation and SUBSIDIZE THE COSTS... maintaining them well beyond the means of the market to sustain those costs, which can only produce the result typical of policy spawned from your special genius... that which is known as: CATASTROPHIC FAILURE!

Now let's review the most recent experience wherein policy spawned by the 'feelings' of the Left sought to substitute the sound, actuarial lending principles with your own special perversion of 'fairness'.

If you'll recall, that policy resulted into the collapse of the international financial markets... which to this day continues to threaten of the financial viability of the United States.

Which given the 'special' genius of you on the Left, since that catastrophic failure... what did you people do? Ya elected a cult which managed to increase US Federal deficits to 1500 billion PER YEAR! Adding, since the collapse of the US economy... another 7 trillion dollars in direct US federal debt... doubling all of the debt incurred by the US since it's INCEPTION.

Now... here we are with you're dark plan to cripple 1/7th of the US Economy... even as the Fed sits on its annual trillions which is propping up the Equity and Debt Markets, inflating the currency to the edge of their means to imagine they 'control' it... all of which will itself drive up towards the point where the market can no longer sustain it... and...

Guess what happens THEN?

No Subsidies...

No Insurance...

No Currency...

No Social Security...

No Medicaid...

No Medicare...

No obamacare...

BRILLIANT!

None of that has happened- or is happening, brainwashed hater dupe lol. Change the channel and get some fresh air.

Booosh's last budget was 1.2 trillion deficit, now it's 400 billion, all assistance for victims of the corrupt Boosh World Depression. Only cost 5 trillion to avert the effects.

You're speaking of the period after 2007 when the Left hijacked control of the US Legislature, wherein the majority they enjoyed required ZERO Republican votes to pass law? Which came at precisely the same time that the socialist policy wherein decades of coercion by the Left, forcing the Financial Markets to substitute the sound, actuarial lending principle for the Left's perverse understanding of "Fairness", crashed and burned the international financial markets?

Where the FULLY LEFTIST LEGISLATURE SPENT A TRILLION BUCKS TO BAIL OUT THOSE EVIL BANKERS? Which GW foolishly went along with... of course.


And you want to blame Bush for that? Without your having to admit the failures were SOLELY the result of the REJECTION OF NATURAL LAW? And that the Left (YOU) stand for nothing if ya don't stand for rejecting natural law... so, everyone involved in that crash was engaging in the acceptance of the supreme foolishness OKA: Left-think... Which you're here to promote as the thing we should now embrace, to fix that which you broke... using THAT?

Jeebus you're clueless. The bailout of financial institutions was by Paulson and Booosh....and everyone. Dems had control of congress for 6 months, 7/7/2009-2/4/2010, 13 DAYS in session with 60 votes in the Senate. The corruption was Bush regulators and cronies on Wall St, except in total bs Pubworld, hater dupe.

Natural law? OMG....What is that lol...

 

[francoHFW]

Real-life sticker shock I m getting reamed by Obamacare - Allen B. West - AllenBWest.com

Who said it was 5.9%?

The exchanges. READ SOMETHING.

 

[Where_r_my_Keys]

Natural law? OMG....What is that lol...

Seriously?

Well... I've tried, I really have. I mean sure you're none too bright and ya show little means to reason... but I felt like I should give ya a fair shake.

But with this revelation of your profound ignorance, there's truly now, nothin' on which a hope that you might rise above your limited means might rest.

So... You'e hereby sentenced to LIFE IN IGNORE... (Say hi to the idiots for me...)

Buh bye!

 

[JakeStarkey]

CDZ - CDZ Christian Dominionism is a threat to America US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

Here is the "keys" to Where_r_my_keys

 

[Yurt]

is there a "republican" who touts obamacare and sings its praises more than fakey?

JakeStarkey

 

[francoHFW]

Natural law? OMG....What is that lol...

Seriously?

Well... I've tried, I really have. I mean sure you're none too bright and ya show little means to reason... but I felt like I should give ya a fair shake.

But with this revelation of your profound ignorance, there's truly now, nothin' on which a hope that you might rise above your limited means might rest.

So... You'e hereby sentenced to LIFE IN IGNORE... (Say hi to the idiots for me...)

Buh bye!

See ya. The censorship of the clueless. Pretty typical. BTW, I'm a retired teacher, Masters in history, fluent in 3 languages, none of them brainwashed dingbat.

 

[Listening]

ACA is turning out to a boon for the citizen, business, and the tax payer. Good deal. Just like it is in all westernized nations who have national health care.

So not content with having been outed as an extremely liberal Democrat, Jammie-Jake takes it a step further and reveals himself a European Style Socialist in the first degree!

Now, feel better about yourself?

Being a modern Republican does not make me a socialist, but you sound like a far right christian fascist. You live in a democracy. Get over it.

We live in a Republic.

You need an education.

 

[JakeStarkey]

A constitutional republic that operates with democratic elections.

But of course that means the courts in our republic do outweigh the will of the people when the will is to prohibit the rights of the minorities.

It's a good system

 

[Listening]

A constitutional republic that operates with democratic elections.

But of course that means the courts in our republic do outweigh the will of the people when the will is to prohibit the rights of the minorities.

It's a good system

You don't understand rights. There are no minority rights.

Moron.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Listening, yes, there are. Beginning with blacks, then women, then Native Americans, and finally older teenagers.

That you don't understand the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment will be the beginning of wisdom for you.

 

[Listening]

Listening, yes, there are. Beginning with blacks, then women, then Native Americans, and finally older teenagers.

That you don't understand the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment will be the beginning of wisdom for you.

What rights do blacks get that whites don't get ?

Please explain it to us.

Show us how little you know.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You are fruit loops.

 

[Listening]

You are fruit loops.

Oh what a shock.....

JakeTheFake can't produce.

Jake is an asshole.

 

[JakeStarkey]

How little I know would take you 100 years to learn.

Listening, you, and EC, are clueless.

Fact of life.

Learn it, love it, live with it.