Why do you people keep giving thanks to Lucifer?

[Penelope]

I do not know what book they gave you to read, Penelope, but your information is wrong. Very, very wrong. Moses was a worshipper of God Almighty. The G-d of Israel! Moses was not a Baal worshipper!

Moses was a fable, and if anything he was a warrior, setting up a society with Egyptian rules, but mainly he was a fable. Moses was not the first one to be found in a basket in water, there was one before him, and the story was copied.

Why did he put a snake on a pole?

Moses was the meekest man to ever walk the face of the earth, Penelope. You've been brainwashed by your Roman Catholic teachers. These teachings are not in the King James Bible. Neither is purgatory, Limbo, mortal / venial sins / confirmation rituals, substantiation - satanic ritual during communion - praying to the dead / holy water (which has pagan roots also) praying to dead people / praying to Mary as if she were an equal to God or Jesus Christ ( she's not - she was just a sinner saved by Grace through believing on Jesus Christ for her salvation) burning of incense (another pagan - satanic ritual ) and so on.............

According to their own book he had 3000 of his followers kill their brother , and family members, that is meek. Don't think so. RC do not teach limbo anymore and it was never a dogma, purgatory is taken from Greek, there is nothing wrong with confirmation or baptism at birth,
its transubstantiation also, and most of us do not believe its real, the point of the matter is

no RCC , no Christians. Also we don't believe in the second coming crap, nor do we worship Jews or Israel, nor send them money, (except what we all do by our taxes) , nor do we have to find Jesus and keep being born again, as we are born again daily and continuously.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Luciferian=worship of the false and fallen prophet and the teachings of mystical phosphorus light (physical light/Baal/Sun worship).

Fact; Luciferous light came to both Paul and Constantine saying it's name was Jesus, the one coming to Constantine told him to conquer using the symbol of the cross which was always the sign of death and destruction prior to it's adoption into the new one world religion Rome had converged and created. Therefore this Luciferous light told him to adopt the mark of the beast (power of destruction and death).

Fact: there were many christ figures so Christians are merely a blanket term for those following a Christ, but in forming the converged Christian religion Rome converged many figures into one new icon they had to give a new name & birth date to. One of these figures they placed more so forefront then the others was Yeshu son of Mary because he was half Roman (his father was a Roman soldier named Panderas). This figure of 100BC had learned forbidden maggis and underworld teachings from Egypt as well as borrowed John's teachings when stealing Johns flock that taught their god was the mystical phosphorus(luciferous) light between the sun and earth.
Fact; The NT has physical light metaphors and teachings along with harvest god (Baal) metaphors and worship.
The Hebrews taught light to be about spiritual light meaning knowledge and truth not physical light but the Nazarenes taught Luciferous light as their god.
Fact: Rome admits they are lifting high lucifer (the first messiah who fails and is lifted higher then god as a mask for Baal worship=he is emulating the mythologies with exact plagiarized accounts and birth date).
Seen in Rev 22:16 the morning star=Lucifer look it up in any collegiate dictionary or encyclopedia. The NT says this morning star (lucifer) is in their hearts which is why you see Luciferous light radiating from the sacred heart in iconographs of Jesus including those Rays eminating from his image. Including the baal cross (sun rays circle behind the cross).
IF the borrowing of Baals Dec 25th winter's solctice venerated sun birthday and changed sabbath to SUNday sabbath doesn't give you a clue then nothing will.

More objective reasons to worship the Sun than any made-up deity.

-without the Sun, our planet wouldn't be here (no gravity well to make it form.)
-whether you believe in the Sun or not, you're gonna get burned if you lie out exposed to it for long enough.
-Sun gives us energy, warmth, vital nutrients, food (by proxy enabling photosynthesis in plants, which we then eat, make medicines from, give to animals for us to then eat, etc.,) and light.

Compared to human-created gods which for the life of me never actually do anything.

 

[HaShev]

Once again Jeremiah,
Jesus is the image Rome created and you proved this when naming the 100bc figure Yeshu who was stoned and hanged on passover but is not the Galilean christ of Herods era nor the Jordan river christ who's apostles were martyrs. You have portions of the truth but your little errors and assumptions are destroying your ability to get the full picture and truth.

 

[Penelope]

Moses couldn't look at the face of God, and only could look at this backside shadow. SUN.

Jesus is the light of the world, the bible is a lot of astronomy. 12 is the no. of the zodiac. Night wanderers worshipped the moon and stars known as nomads, and agricultural societies worshipped the Sun and water. 12 is the no. of Jacobs kids and 12 is the no. of Jesus's disciples. 12 months. Fascinating actually.

 

[HaShev]

Delta, same with the moon, without it we would have wobbled out of existance. So you can say the moon gives us balance and the sun blinds us and scourches us
or as the NT claims Jesus will melt us in a firey blaze=because he's the sun god.
What was the coating on the pyramid capstone to protect from the burning sun? answer: Mica (Micah)

Using (teaching) literal and using symbolism are 2 completely different things, so don't confuse the 2.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

HaShav truly sorry your present religious beliefs have rendered you so miserable, try LSD

 

[PratchettFan]

Because it's the polite thing to do.

 

[Penelope]

Delta, same with the moon, without it we would have wobbled out of existance. So you can say the moon gives us balance and the sun blinds us and scourches us
or as the NT claims Jesus will melt us in a firey blaze=because he's the sun god.
What was the coating on the pyramid capstone to protect from the burning sun? answer: Mica (Micah)

Using (teaching) literal and using symbolism are 2 completely different things, so don't confuse the 2.

The last thing one should do is take the bible literally.

 

[HaShev]

Why did he put a snake on a pole?

To warn us to recognize the curse as Deut says cursed are those hanged on a tree, as in recognize the serpent (nechash) which Jesus refered to himself in the NT.
Remember it was the serpent who said the same exact false line about being eternal that Jesus promised, because Jesus was the expected false prophet we were so warned about.

 

[Picaro]

Whenever you see some theological premise involving 'light' and other memes you're just reading some reworked old pseudo-intellectual gnostic gibberish, not anything about 'Christianity'. The vast majority of gnostic fiction is easily spotted, as it almost invariably denies the humanity of Jesus, for those who don't know, hence is never to be taken seriously as any sort of Christian theological work. The orthodox Christian theology was the overwhelmingly dominant view early on, from the very beginning, and continued to be. You can just ignore the cranks and loons who run around babbling about how the Evul Catlicks censored everybody and rewrote it all 400 years later n stuff; it's ahistorical, fictional conspiratard nonsense.

 

[HaShev]

Picaro that's not true.
we know the beliefs of the hanotzrim cult through their own use of physical light references and how it matches the beliefs of the surviving sect of Mandeans who are the followers of John. They believed their god to be that mystical light between the sun and earth thus made it easy to integrate with the other sun cults.
The RCC has had statements admiting Jesus wasn't a real figure, they claimed he was a reflection of one to come as if to admit they made his image through expectations and plagiarism of prophecy which is why he is called Like unto son of man and the thief in the night.
Itss why the role of one in the Bible seem stolen and placed into the Jesus roles even though he never fulfilled those roles.

 

[HaShev]

HaShav truly sorry your present religious beliefs have rendered you so miserable, try LSD

Using your self deflective comment as standard we find:
miserable Jesus:
Jesus hated families (Luke 8:19-21,Luke 14:26,33,Luke 18:29-30, Matt 10:34-37), hated life (1 John 2:15-17) and this earth and mankind (2 Peter 3:10, Mat 10: 34-40 & Thomas 16, 2 Thessalonians 1:8), hated the Pharisee , hated Woman (1 Cor. 11, 1 Timothy 2:11-15 & all over the book of Thomas), hated his brethren (seen by what he caused to them), hated people with disabilities(Mark 9:14-19,Matt 9:32-33, 12:22 & Luke 11:14) hated gentiles (Matt15:26), hated his own chosen town of Capernaum (Mat.11:23), thus must not have Knoweth G-d according to 1John 4:8

Jesus needing LSD according to your standard:
Newly translated Gnostic gospel, entitled The Secret Book of Judas of
Kerioth, According to this seemingly
authentic early Cainite-Ophite text, translated from the Coptic by Mohammed al-Murtada and Francis Bendik, said Jesus had
served an LSD-like psychedelic at
the Last Supper, faked his own crucifixion in collaboration with Judas and
Joseph of Arimathea [as in the Koranic account] and died a natural death.

Thanks for playing Luciferian!

 

[Picaro]

Picaro that's not true.
we know the beliefs of the hanotzrim cult through their own use of physical light references and how it matches the beliefs of the surviving sect of Mandeans who are the followers of John. They believed their god to be that mystical light between the sun and earth thus made it easy to integrate with the other sun cults.
The RCC has had statements admiting Jesus wasn't a real figure, they claimed he was a reflection of one to come as if to admit they made his image through expectations and plagiarism of prophecy which is why he is called Like unto son of man and the thief in the night.
Itss why the role of one in the Bible seem stolen and placed into the Jesus roles even though he never fulfilled those roles.

Drivel. This is gnostic gibberish, and it came along a hundred years and more later than the oral traditions that became the orthodox writings; in fact, a reading Of John's Gospel, his epistles, and his Revelations makes it obvious it was the first Gospel in the timeline, not the last, and his apocalyptic writings clearly indicate he either was a Pharisee himself or educated by one at the time of Jesus, and not some fictional work written hundreds of years later. What is not in all of the four Gospels also makes a solid case they were also contemporary to the era, and not made up hundreds of years later either. Hint: They all reflect the political and religious culture decades before the fall of the Second Temple in the historical time line.

The Peanut Gallery lurkers who are interested in that era can find a copy of Joachim Jeremiah's Jerusalem in the Time of Jesus for a scholarly and heavily referenced historical text on that era; it is not an apologetic nor a theological exegesis of any sort, it is an academic historical work. For those who are Christians here it is also well worth the read, as it has great value in understanding both the old and New Testament's many seemingly 'obscure' or 'nonsensical' references, and the geography and social organization and culture of the Jewish people and the theocracy.

Of course, none of this is nearly as much fun as reading all about flying saucers, Big Giant Conspiracies, and making up fictional 'inaccuracies' in order to just rewrite the theology to suit your own personal neuroses, perversions, amoral selfishness, whatever the reasons you need for an excuse. As for myself, I'll go by the history and context of that over sniveling about what I don't like about Xianity or who or what it annoys.

 

[irosie91]

Delta, same with the moon, without it we would have wobbled out of existance. So you can say the moon gives us balance and the sun blinds us and scourches us
or as the NT claims Jesus will melt us in a firey blaze=because he's the sun god.
What was the coating on the pyramid capstone to protect from the burning sun? answer: Mica (Micah)

Using (teaching) literal and using symbolism are 2 completely different things, so don't confuse the 2.

The last thing one should do is take the bible literally.

so true, Penelope-----the bible----like other ancient "scriptural writings" is written in the form of an epic poem (mostly) ---AND
we are reading translations thereof. Not being an idiot as are you, I never attempt to
"ANALYZE" the scriptural writings of 'other'
peoples. Anyone reading such writings needs to know something about the language
in which the original is written and its symbolism and nuances. For these reasons I never try to interpret the Hindu scriptural writings ----the greek scriptural writings or the
Arabic, ------I can do a bit of Hebrew. You should give up your practice of interpreting the
bible ----both OT and NT-----you make a fool of yourself (of course mostly you don't-----you just parrot the pre cooked islamo Nazi propaganda ----written by people as stupid as
are you)

 

[TheOldSchool]

this is the symbol that Constantine used

This is a crucifix

Can you see any difference?

Jesus isn't hanging on a cross. Jesus is seated in heaven at the right hand of God the Father. He has risen! Constantine was a sun god worshipper until the day he died. That is a historical fact.

Perhaps Constantine is sitting at the right hand of the Sun God right now.

 

[Vandalshandle]

You are all wrong. Jesus trims my citrus trees, and does my lawn work. He hangs out with 12 friends, Pedro, Jose, Manuel, Federico, and some other guys whose names I can't pronounce.

 

[irosie91]

this is the symbol that Constantine used

This is a crucifix

Can you see any difference?

Jesus isn't hanging on a cross. Jesus is seated in heaven at the right hand of God the Father. He has risen! Constantine was a sun god worshipper until the day he died. That is a historical fact.

Perhaps Constantine is sitting at the right hand of the Sun God right now.

I wonder what chi rho stands for ???
CONSANTINE REX??? (is rex latin or greek)??? Constantine was not a nice guy

 

[Two Thumbs]

this is the symbol that Constantine used

This is a crucifix

Can you see any difference?

Jesus isn't hanging on a cross. Jesus is seated in heaven at the right hand of God the Father. He has risen! Constantine was a sun god worshipper until the day he died. That is a historical fact.

are you retarded or are you stewpud enough not to get what a crucifixion is?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

HaShav truly sorry your present religious beliefs have rendered you so miserable, try LSD

Using your self deflective comment as standard we find:
miserable Jesus:
Jesus hated families (Luke 8:19-21,Luke 14:26,33,Luke 18:29-30, Matt 10:34-37), hated life (1 John 2:15-17) and this earth and mankind (2 Peter 3:10, Mat 10: 34-40 & Thomas 16, 2 Thessalonians 1:8), hated the Pharisee , hated Woman (1 Cor. 11, 1 Timothy 2:11-15 & all over the book of Thomas), hated his brethren (seen by what he caused to them), hated people with disabilities(Mark 9:14-19,Matt 9:32-33, 12:22 & Luke 11:14) hated gentiles (Matt15:26), hated his own chosen town of Capernaum (Mat.11:23), thus must not have Knoweth G-d according to 1John 4:8

Jesus needing LSD according to your standard:
Newly translated Gnostic gospel, entitled The Secret Book of Judas of
Kerioth, According to this seemingly
authentic early Cainite-Ophite text, translated from the Coptic by Mohammed al-Murtada and Francis Bendik, said Jesus had
served an LSD-like psychedelic at
the Last Supper, faked his own crucifixion in collaboration with Judas and
Joseph of Arimathea [as in the Koranic account] and died a natural death.

Thanks for playing Luciferian!

LOLz.

Your personal unhappiness has rendered you desperate and grasping at straws. The Sanhedrin could have ended the Jesus Myth by just producing the body. How come they could never produce the body?

Probably because when he rose 3 days after his sacrifice, he sheared the bolts off his tomb and threw the 12 foot diameter stone away from his tomb. I'm thinking after the panic stricken soldiers told them Jesus rose, they checked the tomb, saw the seal on the ground, found no body in the tomb and realized, "Uh oh, we're fucked"

And, of course as retribution for killing his son, the Lord wiped Jerusalem off the map for 2,000 years

"...then he sent other servants to them, more than the first time, and the tenants treated them the same way. Last of all, he sent his son to them. 'They will respect my son,' he said. "But when the tenants saw the son, they said to each other, 'This is the heir. Come, let's kill him and take his inheritance.' So they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him. Matthew 21:35-39 (NIV)

 

[HaShev]

Chicaro,
using your standard you'd be calling your NT mythology drivel. The difference is you called historical facts gnostic as to try and dehumanize a sect in irder to claim fault through it, yet they have nothing to do with the fact the Hanotzrim cult were Physical light ray worshipers or the evidence existing in the NT and icobograph and choice celebratuon days makes it obvious fact.
Whenever christians can't argue a subject using facts they will resort to ad hominom attacks (see crusader franks replies) or use the term Talmud or Gnostic to try and fool and manipulate people into believing these excuses for unrefutable issues that arise.
Educated people notice these methods and notice they have nothing to do with why you are stuck back pedaling and lying to protect your Luciferian worship. In fact this behavior is expected if you satanist. Once a liar always a liar.

Anyone can look up the surviving faith of John who Jesus had murdered when he stole his flock, they are called the Mandeans and they call Jesus the false prophet. Since they have nothing to do with gnosticsm that makes you an expised liar. Truth needs no lies only a lie does.
Anyone can look up the Hanotzrim to see what they taught about physical light and anyone can read the NT and see the references to Their Lucifer worship and Physical light references. Lastly anyone can look up the iconographs online and see the morning star(lucifer) shining through the sacred heart and Jesus pics just as The NT said:
[See here etymology of "Lucifer": "[ the morning star, a fallen rebel archangel, THE Devil, fr. OE. fr. Latin, the morning star, fr. Lucifer light-bearing, fr. luc light + -fer -ferous--more at LIGHT]" (Webster's, p.677)

“So we have the prophetic message more fully confirmed. You will do well to be attentive to this as to a lamp shining in a dark place, until the day dawns and the morning star (LUCIFER)rises in your hearts.” -- 2 Peter 1:19
“... from my Father. To the one who conquers(DESTROYS) I will also give the morning star(LUCIFER).” -- Revelation 2:28
· Revelation 22:16 I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify these things in the churches.
· I am the bright and Morning Star (lucifer)

You have insulted all christians by assuming them to stupid to be able to read for themselves that it's not gnostic it's in plain site.

Lastly if gnostic text would be invalud then the same standard would make the NT invalid=brilliant use of an argument.