Zone1 rcc vs the bible wow look at the difference!

I was raised RCC and never enjoyed it, was a soul crushing experience for me. Much of my family is still devout and they’re arguably better people than I am.

Rome never collapsed, they morphed into the RCC
 
I was raised RCC and never enjoyed it, was a soul crushing experience for me. Much of my family is still devout and they’re arguably better people than I am.

Rome never collapsed, they morphed into the RCC
My motto: As good as you are and as bad as I am, I'm as good as you are as bad as I am.
My Dad only enetered a church for weddings, funerals and some major Feast Days; he was Eastern Orthodox. But a stronger man of Faith I would be hard pressed to find.

Greg
I was raised RCC and never enjoyed it, was a soul crushing experience for me. Much of my family is still devout and they’re arguably better people than I am.

Rome never collapsed, they morphed into the RCC
#metoo RCC. Frankly apart from sermons (quite boring) the rest is just fine.
How about a few prayers on that:

The Prayer of Saint Thomas Aquinas: Grant me, O Lord my God, a mind to know you, a heart to seek you, wisdom to find you, conduct pleasing to you, faithful perseverance in waiting for you, and a hope of finally embracing you.

What is the Prayer for Doubting Thomas? As the patron saint against doubt, I ask him to pray for me when I question the direction in which You are leading me. Forgive me for mistrusting You, Lord, and help me to grow from the experience. Saint Thomas, pray for me. Amen.

ps:

Prayers to St. Thomas the Apostle​


  • For Faith
    Almighty and ever living God, who didst strengthen thine apostle Thomas with sure and certain faith in thy Son's resurrection: Grant us so perfectly and without doubt to believe in Jesus Christ, our Lord and our God, that our faith may never be found wanting in thy sight; through him who liveth and reigneth with thee and the Holy Spirit, one God, now and for ever.


    For Spending Ourselves in His Service

    O Glorious St. Thomas, your grief for Jesus was such that it would not let you believe he had risen unless you actually saw him and touched his wounds. But your love for Jesus was equally great and it led you to give up your life for him. Pray for us that we may grieve for our sins which were the cause of Christ's sufferings. Help us to spend ourselves in his service and so earn the title of "blessed" which Jesus applied to those who would believe in him without seeing him. Amen.


    Prayer to St. Thomas the Apostle, Pray for Me

    Lord Jesus, St. Thomas doubted Your resurrection until he touched Your wounds. After Pentecost, You called him to become a missionary in India, but he doubted again and said no. He changed his mind only after being taken into slavery by a merchant who happened to be going to India. Once he was cured of his doubt, You freed him and he began the work You had called him to do. As the patron saint against doubt, I ask him to pray for me when I question the direction in which You are leading me. Forgive me for mistrusting You, Lord, and help me to grow from the experience. Saint Thomas, pray for me. Amen.


    For Architects, Builders and Carpenters

    Dear St. Thomas, you were once slow in believing that Christ had gloriously risen; but later, because you had seen him, you exclaimed: "My Lord and my God!" According to an ancient story, you rendered most powerful assistance for constructing a church in a place where pagan priests opposed it. Please bless architects, builds and carpenters that through them the Lord may be honored. Amen.


Greg
 
, "not even yourself:" you sure about that?

Er wot??




“Immediately the boy’s father exclaimed, ‘I do believe; help me overcome my unbelief!’” (verse 24).

Upon hearing the man’s request, “I believe; help my unbelief!” Jesus immediately spoke to the unclean spirit and permanently cast it out of the boy. Later, Jesus’ disciples inquired why they were unable to cast the demon out. Jesus told them, “This kind can come out only by prayer” (Mark 9:29).

I am not arrogant enough to say that my Faith is perfect. God knows ME; I pray that I am in His hands.

Greg
Faith is perfect? What does that have to do with being saved and secure in your salvation?
 
My motto: As good as you are and as bad as I am, I'm as good as you are as bad as I am.
My Dad only enetered a church for weddings, funerals and some major Feast Days; he was Eastern Orthodox. But a stronger man of Faith I would be hard pressed to find.

Greg

#metoo RCC. Frankly apart from sermons (quite boring) the rest is just fine.
How about a few prayers on that:

The Prayer of Saint Thomas Aquinas: Grant me, O Lord my God, a mind to know you, a heart to seek you, wisdom to find you, conduct pleasing to you, faithful perseverance in waiting for you, and a hope of finally embracing you.

What is the Prayer for Doubting Thomas? As the patron saint against doubt, I ask him to pray for me when I question the direction in which You are leading me. Forgive me for mistrusting You, Lord, and help me to grow from the experience. Saint Thomas, pray for me. Amen.

ps:

Prayers to St. Thomas the Apostle​


  • For Faith
    Almighty and ever living God, who didst strengthen thine apostle Thomas with sure and certain faith in thy Son's resurrection: Grant us so perfectly and without doubt to believe in Jesus Christ, our Lord and our God, that our faith may never be found wanting in thy sight; through him who liveth and reigneth with thee and the Holy Spirit, one God, now and for ever.


    For Spending Ourselves in His Service

    O Glorious St. Thomas, your grief for Jesus was such that it would not let you believe he had risen unless you actually saw him and touched his wounds. But your love for Jesus was equally great and it led you to give up your life for him. Pray for us that we may grieve for our sins which were the cause of Christ's sufferings. Help us to spend ourselves in his service and so earn the title of "blessed" which Jesus applied to those who would believe in him without seeing him. Amen.


    Prayer to St. Thomas the Apostle, Pray for Me

    Lord Jesus, St. Thomas doubted Your resurrection until he touched Your wounds. After Pentecost, You called him to become a missionary in India, but he doubted again and said no. He changed his mind only after being taken into slavery by a merchant who happened to be going to India. Once he was cured of his doubt, You freed him and he began the work You had called him to do. As the patron saint against doubt, I ask him to pray for me when I question the direction in which You are leading me. Forgive me for mistrusting You, Lord, and help me to grow from the experience. Saint Thomas, pray for me. Amen.


    For Architects, Builders and Carpenters

    Dear St. Thomas, you were once slow in believing that Christ had gloriously risen; but later, because you had seen him, you exclaimed: "My Lord and my God!" According to an ancient story, you rendered most powerful assistance for constructing a church in a place where pagan priests opposed it. Please bless architects, builds and carpenters that through them the Lord may be honored. Amen.


Greg
Pray to Jesus. He is the only mediator between God and man.
 
My motto: As good as you are and as bad as I am, I'm as good as you are as bad as I am.
My Dad only enetered a church for weddings, funerals and some major Feast Days; he was Eastern Orthodox. But a stronger man of Faith I would be hard pressed to find.

Greg

#metoo RCC. Frankly apart from sermons (quite boring) the rest is just fine.
How about a few prayers on that:

The Prayer of Saint Thomas Aquinas: Grant me, O Lord my God, a mind to know you, a heart to seek you, wisdom to find you, conduct pleasing to you, faithful perseverance in waiting for you, and a hope of finally embracing you.

What is the Prayer for Doubting Thomas? As the patron saint against doubt, I ask him to pray for me when I question the direction in which You are leading me. Forgive me for mistrusting You, Lord, and help me to grow from the experience. Saint Thomas, pray for me. Amen.

ps:

Prayers to St. Thomas the Apostle​


  • For Faith
    Almighty and ever living God, who didst strengthen thine apostle Thomas with sure and certain faith in thy Son's resurrection: Grant us so perfectly and without doubt to believe in Jesus Christ, our Lord and our God, that our faith may never be found wanting in thy sight; through him who liveth and reigneth with thee and the Holy Spirit, one God, now and for ever.


    For Spending Ourselves in His Service

    O Glorious St. Thomas, your grief for Jesus was such that it would not let you believe he had risen unless you actually saw him and touched his wounds. But your love for Jesus was equally great and it led you to give up your life for him. Pray for us that we may grieve for our sins which were the cause of Christ's sufferings. Help us to spend ourselves in his service and so earn the title of "blessed" which Jesus applied to those who would believe in him without seeing him. Amen.


    Prayer to St. Thomas the Apostle, Pray for Me

    Lord Jesus, St. Thomas doubted Your resurrection until he touched Your wounds. After Pentecost, You called him to become a missionary in India, but he doubted again and said no. He changed his mind only after being taken into slavery by a merchant who happened to be going to India. Once he was cured of his doubt, You freed him and he began the work You had called him to do. As the patron saint against doubt, I ask him to pray for me when I question the direction in which You are leading me. Forgive me for mistrusting You, Lord, and help me to grow from the experience. Saint Thomas, pray for me. Amen.


    For Architects, Builders and Carpenters

    Dear St. Thomas, you were once slow in believing that Christ had gloriously risen; but later, because you had seen him, you exclaimed: "My Lord and my God!" According to an ancient story, you rendered most powerful assistance for constructing a church in a place where pagan priests opposed it. Please bless architects, builds and carpenters that through them the Lord may be honored. Amen.


Greg
Are you familiar with the Gospel of Thomas, from the Gnostic Library unearthed at Nag Hammadi?
 
Are you familiar with the Gospel of Thomas, from the Gnostic Library unearthed at Nag Hammadi?
Yes; as it's not an authorised book I don't take much notice of it. I've read it a few times but that's about all. Seemed a tad confused.

I just perused this one (translation)


I read up a bit on it using this site:


Not something I take with any seriousness at all these days.

Greg
 
Pray to Jesus. He is the only mediator between God and man.
Jesus IS God. I may ask the saints to pray for me as I would ask YOU to pray for me, with the same expectations. But my BASIC Prayer is "Lord I believe; help my unbelief".

But of course all that just means "God, have mercy on me, a sinner."

Greg
 
Faith is perfect? What does that have to do with being saved and secure in your salvation?
It is by FAITH that we are saved old son. That does not mean we can assume that our FAITH is going to save us if we lose it. lol

Greg
 

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