The Jewish-Hebrew Bible proves Jesus is the Messiah

[rylah]

For instance it was revealed to me that Jews seeing nothing special about themselves and crediting God for everything means that chosenness is the least arrogant position Jews could take for their success and seeing God as only the God of the Jews is the most arrogant position the Jews could take for their chosenness.

Everything correct, except from the straw man argument at the end,
a common red herring that was used by the church to demonize Jews.

That was your claim. Not mine. You implied that the G-d of Abraham was only the G-d of the Jews.

If you recall, I disagreed with you.

That's why I said - "red herring", because it is.
My words were very specific.

You're merely repeating an old church game, only we're on the internet,
and there're no armed guards to cardinals to play this dirty.

It is a straw man and twisting of my words, do I have to repeat again?

You aren’t being very clear.

So let me re-ask the question and you can give a more direct answer like yes or no.

Do you believe that the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people?

I don’t know the old game. I never got this question from the old game and I am not playing dirty. I am being respectful, polite and curious.

The G-d of Abraham is the Kind of everything, and there's nothing beside Him.
He chose a specific nation and separated it to be called in His name.

You won't get a different answer if You repeat the same question.
Think it's simple enough to comprehend.

 

[ding]

For instance it was revealed to me that Jews seeing nothing special about themselves and crediting God for everything means that chosenness is the least arrogant position Jews could take for their success and seeing God as only the God of the Jews is the most arrogant position the Jews could take for their chosenness.

Everything correct, except from the straw man argument at the end,
a common red herring that was used by the church to demonize Jews.

That was your claim. Not mine. You implied that the G-d of Abraham was only the G-d of the Jews.

If you recall, I disagreed with you.

That's why I said - "red herring", because it is.
My words were very specific.

You're merely repeating an old church game, only we're on the internet,
and there're no armed guards to cardinals to play this dirty.

It is a straw man and twisting of my words, do I have to repeat again?

You aren’t being very clear.

So let me re-ask the question and you can give a more direct answer like yes or no.

Do you believe that the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people?

I don’t know the old game. I never got this question from the old game and I am not playing dirty. I am being respectful, polite and curious.

The G-d of Abraham is the Kind of everything, and there's nothing beside Him.
He chose a specific nation and separated it to be called in His name.

You won't get a different answer if You repeat the same question.
Think it's simple enough to comprehend.

I read that as you believe the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people.

Because if that were not the case you would have no hesitation in saying so. But since you know believing the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people is an arrogant position, you do hesitate to make such an arrogant claim.

 

[ding]

And wrong/illogical claim.

 

[ding]

For instance it was revealed to me that Jews seeing nothing special about themselves and crediting God for everything means that chosenness is the least arrogant position Jews could take for their success and seeing God as only the God of the Jews is the most arrogant position the Jews could take for their chosenness.

Everything correct, except from the straw man argument at the end,
a common red herring that was used by the church to demonize Jews.

That was your claim. Not mine. You implied that the G-d of Abraham was only the G-d of the Jews.

If you recall, I disagreed with you.

That's why I said - "red herring", because it is.
My words were very specific.

You're merely repeating an old church game, only we're on the internet,
and there're no armed guards to cardinals to play this dirty.

It is a straw man and twisting of my words, do I have to repeat again?

You aren’t being very clear.

So let me re-ask the question and you can give a more direct answer like yes or no.

Do you believe that the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people?

I don’t know the old game. I never got this question from the old game and I am not playing dirty. I am being respectful, polite and curious.

The G-d of Abraham is the Kind of everything, and there's nothing beside Him.
He chose a specific nation and separated it to be called in His name.

You won't get a different answer if You repeat the same question.
Think it's simple enough to comprehend.

So let me ask you a different question. Two questions specifically.

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in everyone?

Or just your people?

 

[rylah]

Everything correct, except from the straw man argument at the end,
a common red herring that was used by the church to demonize Jews.

That was your claim. Not mine. You implied that the G-d of Abraham was only the G-d of the Jews.

If you recall, I disagreed with you.

That's why I said - "red herring", because it is.
My words were very specific.

You're merely repeating an old church game, only we're on the internet,
and there're no armed guards to cardinals to play this dirty.

It is a straw man and twisting of my words, do I have to repeat again?

You aren’t being very clear.

So let me re-ask the question and you can give a more direct answer like yes or no.

Do you believe that the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people?

I don’t know the old game. I never got this question from the old game and I am not playing dirty. I am being respectful, polite and curious.

The G-d of Abraham is the Kind of everything, and there's nothing beside Him.
He chose a specific nation and separated it to be called in His name.

You won't get a different answer if You repeat the same question.
Think it's simple enough to comprehend.

I read that as you believe the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people.

Because if that were not the case you would have no hesitation in saying so. But since you know believing the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people is an arrogant position, you do hesitate to make such an arrogant claim.

You keep repeating the straw man argument,
which is noway intellectually stimulating.

What word in my answer needs clarification?

 

[ding]

That was your claim. Not mine. You implied that the G-d of Abraham was only the G-d of the Jews.

If you recall, I disagreed with you.

That's why I said - "red herring", because it is.
My words were very specific.

You're merely repeating an old church game, only we're on the internet,
and there're no armed guards to cardinals to play this dirty.

It is a straw man and twisting of my words, do I have to repeat again?

You aren’t being very clear.

So let me re-ask the question and you can give a more direct answer like yes or no.

Do you believe that the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people?

I don’t know the old game. I never got this question from the old game and I am not playing dirty. I am being respectful, polite and curious.

The G-d of Abraham is the Kind of everything, and there's nothing beside Him.
He chose a specific nation and separated it to be called in His name.

You won't get a different answer if You repeat the same question.
Think it's simple enough to comprehend.

I read that as you believe the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people.

Because if that were not the case you would have no hesitation in saying so. But since you know believing the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people is an arrogant position, you do hesitate to make such an arrogant claim.

You keep repeating the straw man argument,
which is noway intellectually stimulating.

What word in my answer needs clarification?

It was a yes or no question.

It shouldn't be this complicated.

 

[rylah]

Everything correct, except from the straw man argument at the end,
a common red herring that was used by the church to demonize Jews.

That was your claim. Not mine. You implied that the G-d of Abraham was only the G-d of the Jews.

If you recall, I disagreed with you.

That's why I said - "red herring", because it is.
My words were very specific.

You're merely repeating an old church game, only we're on the internet,
and there're no armed guards to cardinals to play this dirty.

It is a straw man and twisting of my words, do I have to repeat again?

You aren’t being very clear.

So let me re-ask the question and you can give a more direct answer like yes or no.

Do you believe that the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people?

I don’t know the old game. I never got this question from the old game and I am not playing dirty. I am being respectful, polite and curious.

The G-d of Abraham is the Kind of everything, and there's nothing beside Him.
He chose a specific nation and separated it to be called in His name.

You won't get a different answer if You repeat the same question.
Think it's simple enough to comprehend.

So let me ask you a different question. Two questions specifically.

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in everyone?

Or just your people?

I don't know.

 

[ding]

That was your claim. Not mine. You implied that the G-d of Abraham was only the G-d of the Jews.

If you recall, I disagreed with you.

That's why I said - "red herring", because it is.
My words were very specific.

You're merely repeating an old church game, only we're on the internet,
and there're no armed guards to cardinals to play this dirty.

It is a straw man and twisting of my words, do I have to repeat again?

You aren’t being very clear.

So let me re-ask the question and you can give a more direct answer like yes or no.

Do you believe that the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people?

I don’t know the old game. I never got this question from the old game and I am not playing dirty. I am being respectful, polite and curious.

The G-d of Abraham is the Kind of everything, and there's nothing beside Him.
He chose a specific nation and separated it to be called in His name.

You won't get a different answer if You repeat the same question.
Think it's simple enough to comprehend.

So let me ask you a different question. Two questions specifically.

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in everyone?

Or just your people?

I don't know.

I do. Everyone. Even those that don't believe in Him.

 

[rylah]

That's why I said - "red herring", because it is.
My words were very specific.

You're merely repeating an old church game, only we're on the internet,
and there're no armed guards to cardinals to play this dirty.

It is a straw man and twisting of my words, do I have to repeat again?

You aren’t being very clear.

So let me re-ask the question and you can give a more direct answer like yes or no.

Do you believe that the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people?

I don’t know the old game. I never got this question from the old game and I am not playing dirty. I am being respectful, polite and curious.

The G-d of Abraham is the Kind of everything, and there's nothing beside Him.
He chose a specific nation and separated it to be called in His name.

You won't get a different answer if You repeat the same question.
Think it's simple enough to comprehend.

I read that as you believe the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people.

Because if that were not the case you would have no hesitation in saying so. But since you know believing the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people is an arrogant position, you do hesitate to make such an arrogant claim.

You keep repeating the straw man argument,
which is noway intellectually stimulating.

What word in my answer needs clarification?

It was a yes or no question.

It shouldn't be this complicated.

Yes or no questions are for corrupt church disputations,
and inquisition "mercy" for the cardinals unwanted maids.

 

[ding]

You aren’t being very clear.

So let me re-ask the question and you can give a more direct answer like yes or no.

Do you believe that the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people?

I don’t know the old game. I never got this question from the old game and I am not playing dirty. I am being respectful, polite and curious.

The G-d of Abraham is the Kind of everything, and there's nothing beside Him.
He chose a specific nation and separated it to be called in His name.

You won't get a different answer if You repeat the same question.
Think it's simple enough to comprehend.

I read that as you believe the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people.

Because if that were not the case you would have no hesitation in saying so. But since you know believing the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people is an arrogant position, you do hesitate to make such an arrogant claim.

You keep repeating the straw man argument,
which is noway intellectually stimulating.

What word in my answer needs clarification?

It was a yes or no question.

It shouldn't be this complicated.

Yes or no questions are for commie interrogations.

And for establishing common ground.

In that spirit, let me refine my question...

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in all of your people?

 

[rylah]

That's why I said - "red herring", because it is.
My words were very specific.

You're merely repeating an old church game, only we're on the internet,
and there're no armed guards to cardinals to play this dirty.

It is a straw man and twisting of my words, do I have to repeat again?

You aren’t being very clear.

So let me re-ask the question and you can give a more direct answer like yes or no.

Do you believe that the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people?

I don’t know the old game. I never got this question from the old game and I am not playing dirty. I am being respectful, polite and curious.

The G-d of Abraham is the Kind of everything, and there's nothing beside Him.
He chose a specific nation and separated it to be called in His name.

You won't get a different answer if You repeat the same question.
Think it's simple enough to comprehend.

So let me ask you a different question. Two questions specifically.

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in everyone?

Or just your people?

I don't know.

I do. Everyone. Even those that don't believe in Him.

You can believe whatever,
the question rather what does G-d's Torah say.

 

[rylah]

The G-d of Abraham is the Kind of everything, and there's nothing beside Him.
He chose a specific nation and separated it to be called in His name.

You won't get a different answer if You repeat the same question.
Think it's simple enough to comprehend.

I read that as you believe the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people.

Because if that were not the case you would have no hesitation in saying so. But since you know believing the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people is an arrogant position, you do hesitate to make such an arrogant claim.

You keep repeating the straw man argument,
which is noway intellectually stimulating.

What word in my answer needs clarification?

It was a yes or no question.

It shouldn't be this complicated.

Yes or no questions are for commie interrogations.

And for establishing common ground.

In that spirit, let me refine my question...

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in all of your people?

Still repeating the same questions,
when answers are in distance of 1-2 posts on the same page.

That's not interesting.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

To bad there is never a valid argument for that ludicrous claim, because duped people don't know the Hebrew Bible to notice they fell for "Fake (good) News".
Then of course is the issue you are claiming Jesus is Lucifer.
The first messiah is LUCIFER who'd be deemed a god, which is what the NT admits it's character was at the end of the ludicrous story- Rev 22:16 Jesus is admitted to be
the morning star(Lucifer), in mythology Baal's son was the morning star.
Pastors admit Jesus is Lucifer

Jesus was a Jew. It’s fucking hilarious to hear Christians spout bullshit about Jews. It’s like a bald guy with a bad wig making fun of a bald guy. Of course either of those guys could possibly be Jews.


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[Butch_Coolidge]

Given that so many Jews have abandoned their faith and forgotten God, I would think the remaining Jews would be happy if anyone read any translation.

Abandoned their faith, or been exterminated for being Jews.


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[HaShev]

To bad there is never a valid argument for that ludicrous claim, because duped people don't know the Hebrew Bible to notice they fell for "Fake (good) News".
Then of course is the issue you are claiming Jesus is Lucifer.
The first messiah is LUCIFER who'd be deemed a god, which is what the NT admits it's character was at the end of the ludicrous story- Rev 22:16 Jesus is admitted to be
the morning star(Lucifer), in mythology Baal's son was the morning star.
Pastors admit Jesus is Lucifer

Jesus was a Jew. It’s fucking hilarious to hear Christians spout bullshit about Jews. It’s like a bald guy with a bad wig making fun of a bald guy. Of course either of those guys could possibly be Jews.


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HIS "created" IMAGE is Jewish when Rome is converting Jews, just as he is son of the sun to pagan sun worshipers, and son of the harvest god to farmers, but to be intellectually honest and historically accurate Jesus is not Jewish, just the many figures used for that image are except the son of Mary of 100bc that figure was half Roman (father was Panderas a Roman soldier).
Peel back the Jewish mask used to convert Jews and you have the age old Baal worship, with Jesus being but a mask, thus father (baal) and son (morning star-Jesus) are one (in the same mythology).
So technically Jesus is Babylonian (mythology) and not Jewish.
The revolter christs like Yehuda of Galilee (died 6bc) and Theudas (45ad)used for his image to make him seem real or historic were Jewish, but not necessarilly in teachings- as they strayed thus called
HaNotzrim (off shoot-cult).
One of these christs even taught sun worship, that their god was that mysterious magical rays of light between the sun and earth, explaining all the physical luciferous light teachings in the NT and by surviving followers of John(called Mandeans (sect of Sabeans) who that Christ stole his followers from.
Neither John nor that Christ were teaching true Judaism hence called HaNotzrim.

 

[ding]

Given that so many Jews have abandoned their faith and forgotten God, I would think the remaining Jews would be happy if anyone read any translation.

Abandoned their faith, or been exterminated for being Jews.


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Not the latter, although that did happen.

 

[ding]

I read that as you believe the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people.

Because if that were not the case you would have no hesitation in saying so. But since you know believing the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people is an arrogant position, you do hesitate to make such an arrogant claim.

You keep repeating the straw man argument,
which is noway intellectually stimulating.

What word in my answer needs clarification?

It was a yes or no question.

It shouldn't be this complicated.

Yes or no questions are for commie interrogations.

And for establishing common ground.

In that spirit, let me refine my question...

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in all of your people?

Still repeating the same questions,
when answers are in distance of 1-2 posts on the same page.

That's not interesting.

It's actually a different question.

One aimed to gain insight into your beliefs.

 

[ding]

You aren’t being very clear.

So let me re-ask the question and you can give a more direct answer like yes or no.

Do you believe that the G-d of Abraham is only the G-d of your people?

I don’t know the old game. I never got this question from the old game and I am not playing dirty. I am being respectful, polite and curious.

The G-d of Abraham is the Kind of everything, and there's nothing beside Him.
He chose a specific nation and separated it to be called in His name.

You won't get a different answer if You repeat the same question.
Think it's simple enough to comprehend.

So let me ask you a different question. Two questions specifically.

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in everyone?

Or just your people?

I don't know.

I do. Everyone. Even those that don't believe in Him.

You can believe whatever,
the question rather what does G-d's Torah say.

Given that you already answered that you didn't know, I'll assume you believe the Torah is silent on that.

Although there is that nagging verse that implies the Jews are but a vehicle to bring God to all nations.

 

[james bond]

You keep repeating the straw man argument,
which is noway intellectually stimulating.

What word in my answer needs clarification?

It was a yes or no question.

It shouldn't be this complicated.

Yes or no questions are for commie interrogations.

And for establishing common ground.

In that spirit, let me refine my question...

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in all of your people?

Still repeating the same questions,
when answers are in distance of 1-2 posts on the same page.

That's not interesting.

It's actually a different question.

One aimed to gain insight into your beliefs.

And yet you do not believe Genesis. Go ahead, ask him about Genesis in the Torah.

 

[harmonica]

there is no messiah/god/etc