The Jewish-Hebrew Bible proves Jesus is the Messiah

[ding]

It was a yes or no question.

It shouldn't be this complicated.

Yes or no questions are for commie interrogations.

And for establishing common ground.

In that spirit, let me refine my question...

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in all of your people?

Still repeating the same questions,
when answers are in distance of 1-2 posts on the same page.

That's not interesting.

It's actually a different question.

One aimed to gain insight into your beliefs.

And yet you do not believe Genesis. Go ahead, ask him about Genesis in the Torah.

I say it is you who does not believe Genesis.

 

[rylah]

You keep repeating the straw man argument,
which is noway intellectually stimulating.

What word in my answer needs clarification?

It was a yes or no question.

It shouldn't be this complicated.

Yes or no questions are for commie interrogations.

And for establishing common ground.

In that spirit, let me refine my question...

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in all of your people?

Still repeating the same questions,
when answers are in distance of 1-2 posts on the same page.

That's not interesting.

It's actually a different question.

One aimed to gain insight into your beliefs.

My beliefs are not the topic,
it is the false assumption in this thread.

No christology in the Torah.

 

[rylah]

The G-d of Abraham is the Kind of everything, and there's nothing beside Him.
He chose a specific nation and separated it to be called in His name.

You won't get a different answer if You repeat the same question.
Think it's simple enough to comprehend.

So let me ask you a different question. Two questions specifically.

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in everyone?

Or just your people?

I don't know.

I do. Everyone. Even those that don't believe in Him.

You can believe whatever,
the question rather what does G-d's Torah say.

Given that you already answered that you didn't know, I'll assume you believe the Torah is silent on that.

Although there is that nagging verse that implies the Jews are but a vehicle to bring God to all nations.

You may assume...
but that assumption doesn't follow logic,
or constitute a basis for any solid argument.

 

[ding]

It was a yes or no question.

It shouldn't be this complicated.

Yes or no questions are for commie interrogations.

And for establishing common ground.

In that spirit, let me refine my question...

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in all of your people?

Still repeating the same questions,
when answers are in distance of 1-2 posts on the same page.

That's not interesting.

It's actually a different question.

One aimed to gain insight into your beliefs.

My beliefs are not the topic,
it is the false assumption in this thread.

No christology in Torah.

The OP has abandoned the thread.

As near as I can tell his only objective was to inflame Jews.

Much like hashev’s only objective in almost every post he writes is to inflame Christians.

 

[ding]

So let me ask you a different question. Two questions specifically.

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in everyone?

Or just your people?

I don't know.

I do. Everyone. Even those that don't believe in Him.

You can believe whatever,
the question rather what does G-d's Torah say.

Given that you already answered that you didn't know, I'll assume you believe the Torah is silent on that.

Although there is that nagging verse that implies the Jews are but a vehicle to bring God to all nations.

You may assume...
but that assumption doesn't follow logic,
or constitute a basis for any solid argument.

Actually it does follow logic.

You can’t logically say you don’t know the answer and believe the answer is in the Torah.

Unless what you are saying is that you don’t understand the Torah.

Personally I believe the original meaning has been lost through the thousands of years that passed before the allegorical account of creation was captured in writing.

 

[james bond]

I say it is you who does not believe Genesis.

It is I who knows Genesis and you are the one who denies it which is wrong.

 

[ding]

I say it is you who does not believe Genesis.

It is I who knows Genesis and you are the one who denies it which is wrong.

Can you summarize the pertinent points of chapters 1 & 2?

I’d love to hear what you think it means.

 

[HaShev]

Yes or no questions are for commie interrogations.

And for establishing common ground.

In that spirit, let me refine my question...

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in all of your people?

Still repeating the same questions,
when answers are in distance of 1-2 posts on the same page.

That's not interesting.

It's actually a different question.

One aimed to gain insight into your beliefs.

My beliefs are not the topic,
it is the false assumption in this thread.

No christology in Torah.

The OP has abandoned the thread.

As near as I can tell his only objective was to inflame Jews.

Much like hashev’s only objective in almost every post he writes is to inflame Christians.

Sorry to bust your defamation,
but me posting Tanakh verses can't be to "inflame Christians" because Christianity did not yet exist, unless you admit Christianity is the
abomination written about in the texts. Checkmate!
Luciferians lose again!

 

[ding]

I say it is you who does not believe Genesis.

It is I who knows Genesis and you are the one who denies it which is wrong.

What is it about Genesis that you believe I deny?

That God created existence? I believe God created existence.

That man is a product of that creation? I believe man is a product of God’s creation.

 

[ding]

And for establishing common ground.

In that spirit, let me refine my question...

Do you believe G-d's spirit or spark is in all of your people?

Still repeating the same questions,
when answers are in distance of 1-2 posts on the same page.

That's not interesting.

It's actually a different question.

One aimed to gain insight into your beliefs.

My beliefs are not the topic,
it is the false assumption in this thread.

No christology in Torah.

The OP has abandoned the thread.

As near as I can tell his only objective was to inflame Jews.

Much like hashev’s only objective in almost every post he writes is to inflame Christians.

Sorry to bust your defamation,
but me posting Tanakh verses can't be to "inflame Christians" because Christianity did not yet exist, unless you admit Christianity is the
abomination written about in the texts. Checkmate!
Luciferians lose again!
View attachment 263095

You must be the only rabbi that is proselytizing to the Christians.

Kind of a reverse Jesus.

 

[rylah]

I don't know.

I do. Everyone. Even those that don't believe in Him.

You can believe whatever,
the question rather what does G-d's Torah say.

Given that you already answered that you didn't know, I'll assume you believe the Torah is silent on that.

Although there is that nagging verse that implies the Jews are but a vehicle to bring God to all nations.

You may assume...
but that assumption doesn't follow logic,
or constitute a basis for any solid argument.

Actually it does follow logic.

You can’t logically say you don’t know the answer and believe the answer is in the Torah.

Unless what you are saying is that you don’t understand the Torah.

Personally I believe the original meaning has been lost through the thousands of years that passed before the allegorical account of creation was captured in writing.

Not knowing an answer to a question regarding the Torah, does not pertain my belief it is not there.
It is illogical to assume the Torah is the plan of creation, and at the same time that it doesn't relate to everything.

Your whole conduct along the conversation is to assume and project what others believe.
Which is another way of saying - moral relativism.

Here's a question,
do You think G-d created this world according to the Torah, gave it to His nation,
making sure its meaning would be lost?

 

[rylah]

Still repeating the same questions,
when answers are in distance of 1-2 posts on the same page.

That's not interesting.

It's actually a different question.

One aimed to gain insight into your beliefs.

My beliefs are not the topic,
it is the false assumption in this thread.

No christology in Torah.

The OP has abandoned the thread.

As near as I can tell his only objective was to inflame Jews.

Much like hashev’s only objective in almost every post he writes is to inflame Christians.

Sorry to bust your defamation,
but me posting Tanakh verses can't be to "inflame Christians" because Christianity did not yet exist, unless you admit Christianity is the
abomination written about in the texts. Checkmate!
Luciferians lose again!
View attachment 263095

You must be the only rabbi that is proselytizing to the Christians.

Kind of a reverse Jesus.

I told You there's a movement of people to accept the 7 Noahide laws.

No one is proselytizing,
the other way around, it's the Christians asking them to worship a Jew,
people usually just follow Jews who return to roots, after seeing church's blatant forgery of scripture.

 

[HaShev]

Still repeating the same questions,
when answers are in distance of 1-2 posts on the same page.

That's not interesting.

It's actually a different question.

One aimed to gain insight into your beliefs.

My beliefs are not the topic,
it is the false assumption in this thread.

No christology in Torah.

The OP has abandoned the thread.

As near as I can tell his only objective was to inflame Jews.

Much like hashev’s only objective in almost every post he writes is to inflame Christians.

Sorry to bust your defamation,
but me posting Tanakh verses can't be to "inflame Christians" because Christianity did not yet exist, unless you admit Christianity is the
abomination written about in the texts. Checkmate!
Luciferians lose again!
View attachment 263095

You must be the only rabbi that is proselytizing to the Christians.

Kind of a reverse Jesus.

Am I not bringing you inadvertantly towards learning Torah and Hebrew?
PEOPLE don't realize they are learning it, but when I put parenthesis the English meaning of Hebrew terms or vice versa they are learning Hebrew. They are learning Judaic precepts that I quote the Evangelists admit "are things we never knew or heard before".
ONCE AGAIN: "you do not learn the Tanakh from a Roman authoratative pagan influenced offshoot sect, you learn it from a Rabbi.
This is why you see Pastors/Evangelists taking hold of a Rabbi to help teach them, like it says they'd do. This is why you see some of them wear a star of David instead of a cross, wear yahmakahs when making presentations about Israel, put on the prayer shawl and even
theTeflin. 20 -40 years ago if you said this would happen you'd call it a crazy notion, but suddenly you woke up and did not notice how we got here, because it was a gradual transformation.
Ask John Hagee who subtly got them there.
YOU don't live that far from S.A.

 

[rylah]

Messianic Jew Returns to Orthodox Judaism
with HaRav Amnon Yitzchak shlit"a

 

[Tijn Von Ingersleben]

WTF is a Jewish-Hebrew Bible? You mean Torah? Do the Muslims get a bible too?

the word BIBLE ----is latin (biblos) and just means BOOK-----of course ---
the muslims and everyone else has a bible

So you would be totally fine referring to the Quran as a 'Muslim Bible' in the company of Muslims?

Hebrew Bible is a made up term by Darby following rapturevangelists.

Just like 'Judeo-Christian' values...apparently some values that both groups share that are intrinsic to some relationship.

Orwellian double speak.

 

[ding]

I do. Everyone. Even those that don't believe in Him.

You can believe whatever,
the question rather what does G-d's Torah say.

Given that you already answered that you didn't know, I'll assume you believe the Torah is silent on that.

Although there is that nagging verse that implies the Jews are but a vehicle to bring God to all nations.

You may assume...
but that assumption doesn't follow logic,
or constitute a basis for any solid argument.

Actually it does follow logic.

You can’t logically say you don’t know the answer and believe the answer is in the Torah.

Unless what you are saying is that you don’t understand the Torah.

Personally I believe the original meaning has been lost through the thousands of years that passed before the allegorical account of creation was captured in writing.

Not knowing an answer to a question regarding the Torah, does not pertain my belief it is not there.
It is illogical to assume the Torah is the plan of creation, and at the same time that it doesn't relate to everything.

Your whole conduct along the conversation is to assume and project what others believe.
Which is another way of saying - moral relativism.

Here's a question,
do You think G-d created this world according to the Torah, gave it to His nation,
making sure its meaning would be lost?

I haven’t made any assumptions. I’ve only been asking questions.

 

[ding]

I do. Everyone. Even those that don't believe in Him.

You can believe whatever,
the question rather what does G-d's Torah say.

Given that you already answered that you didn't know, I'll assume you believe the Torah is silent on that.

Although there is that nagging verse that implies the Jews are but a vehicle to bring God to all nations.

You may assume...
but that assumption doesn't follow logic,
or constitute a basis for any solid argument.

Actually it does follow logic.

You can’t logically say you don’t know the answer and believe the answer is in the Torah.

Unless what you are saying is that you don’t understand the Torah.

Personally I believe the original meaning has been lost through the thousands of years that passed before the allegorical account of creation was captured in writing.

Not knowing an answer to a question regarding the Torah, does not pertain my belief it is not there.
It is illogical to assume the Torah is the plan of creation, and at the same time that it doesn't relate to everything.

Your whole conduct along the conversation is to assume and project what others believe.
Which is another way of saying - moral relativism.

Here's a question,
do You think G-d created this world according to the Torah, gave it to His nation,
making sure its meaning would be lost?

There is no doubt the original meaning was lost through time. God may be perfect but your people are not.

 

[ding]

It's actually a different question.

One aimed to gain insight into your beliefs.

My beliefs are not the topic,
it is the false assumption in this thread.

No christology in Torah.

The OP has abandoned the thread.

As near as I can tell his only objective was to inflame Jews.

Much like hashev’s only objective in almost every post he writes is to inflame Christians.

Sorry to bust your defamation,
but me posting Tanakh verses can't be to "inflame Christians" because Christianity did not yet exist, unless you admit Christianity is the
abomination written about in the texts. Checkmate!
Luciferians lose again!
View attachment 263095

You must be the only rabbi that is proselytizing to the Christians.

Kind of a reverse Jesus.

I told You there's a movement of people to accept the 7 Noahide laws.

No one is proselytizing,
the other way around, it's the Christians asking them to worship a Jew,
people usually just follow Jews who return to roots, after seeing church's blatant forgery of scripture.

I disagree. Hashev’s track record says otherwise.

 

[ding]

It's actually a different question.

One aimed to gain insight into your beliefs.

My beliefs are not the topic,
it is the false assumption in this thread.

No christology in Torah.

The OP has abandoned the thread.

As near as I can tell his only objective was to inflame Jews.

Much like hashev’s only objective in almost every post he writes is to inflame Christians.

Sorry to bust your defamation,
but me posting Tanakh verses can't be to "inflame Christians" because Christianity did not yet exist, unless you admit Christianity is the
abomination written about in the texts. Checkmate!
Luciferians lose again!
View attachment 263095

You must be the only rabbi that is proselytizing to the Christians.

Kind of a reverse Jesus.

Am I not bringing you inadvertantly towards learning Torah and Hebrew?
PEOPLE don't realize they are learning it, but when I put parenthesis the English meaning of Hebrew terms or vice versa they are learning Hebrew. They are learning Judaic precepts that I quote the Evangelists admit "are things we never knew or heard before".
ONCE AGAIN: "you do not learn the Tanakh from a Roman authoratative pagan influenced offshoot sect, you learn it from a Rabbi.
This is why you see Pastors/Evangelists taking hold of a Rabbi to help teach them, like it says they'd do. This is why you see some of them wear a star of David instead of a cross, wear yahmakahs when making presentations about Israel, put on the prayer shawl and even
theTeflin. 20 -40 years ago if you said this would happen you'd call it a crazy notion, but suddenly you woke up and did not notice how we got here, because it was a gradual transformation.
Ask John Hagee who subtly got them there.
YOU don't live that far from S.A.

No. You’re not.

You are scratching your itch. You don’t speak for God.

 

[james bond]

I say it is you who does not believe Genesis.

It is I who knows Genesis and you are the one who denies it which is wrong.

Can you summarize the pertinent points of chapters 1 & 2?

I’d love to hear what you think it means.

The Earth was without form. It means that God was thinking of creating Earth as the centerpiece (heaven, garden, paradise), but there was nothing. It was described as without form.

God's breath was hovering over the waters and it was darkness and deep. God said, "Let there be light." And the EMS was created. He saw the light was good and divided it from the darkness and called the light day and dark night. There was morning and evening. It was the first day.

What more do you want? It's better than having a singularity with infinite temperature and density which defies the laws of physics.