The Bible Is The Story Of God And His Plan To Fix The World

Norwegen doesn't really know his Bible very well Ding. He's been trying to give us quotes from Revelation (which is the end times), and they haven't happened yet.

As far as John 12:31? Again, Norwegen shows his ignorance yet again, here is what the verse actually says.

31 Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out.

It says the price of this world WILL be driven out, not that he has been.

 
Norwegen doesn't really know his Bible very well Ding. He's been trying to give us quotes from Revelation (which is the end times), and they haven't happened yet.

As far as John 12:31? Again, Norwegen shows his ignorance yet again, here is what the verse actually says.

31 Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out.

It says the price of this world WILL be driven out, not that he has been.
You gotta be kidding, right? You can't be that ignorant. That statement is not in a future tense; it's in a present tense. When you say, "Now I will order a pizza," you don't mean you'll order a pizza a year from now.

"Now (at this time, two thousand years ago) will the ruler of this world be cast out."

Present tense.

"Behold, I am making all things new."

Present tense.

Get a clue.
 
It's very simple. The kingdom of God arrived two thousand years ago, according to the New Testament. Is Satan ruling it? Is he even lurking in it?

God fixed the world - where Israel lives - two thousand years ago. He's not coming to fix it again. If you think the Lord's work is not finished, though the Bible says it is, then you don't understand Christianity.
 
I have. It says to not make an idol out of a book.
Does that mean you're not supposed to understand it?
No, but I don't read it literally like I assume you do. It was never meant to be read that way.
I trust, then, that you don't defend the creation story, for example, from a "scientific" angle.
I don't know what that means exactly.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that the universe was created from nothing 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that man was a product of that creation 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.
Science doesn’t say that we came from nothing. You ARE nothing.

Actually, science does kinda say that the universe came from nothing. Look into the Big Bang Theory sometime. Scientists say that is where the universe started, but they don't know what caused it, or what came before it.
You just said it yourself Big Bang THEORY. No scientific proof of that yet.
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy.
It's all still a theory, the word is even in the name, Big Bang Theory. Are you really this stupid?
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy. :)
Prove that those two things show that the universe came from nothing, then link it to a real scientific paper. You know you can't :biggrin:
Measurements of the Cosmic Microwave Background Temperature at high redshift by analysis of CO excitation - IOPscience

The linear relation between the temperature of the Cosmic Microwave Background and the cosmological redshift is a fundamental prediction of the standard hot Big Bang model.

:lol:
 
I have. It says to not make an idol out of a book.
Does that mean you're not supposed to understand it?
No, but I don't read it literally like I assume you do. It was never meant to be read that way.
I trust, then, that you don't defend the creation story, for example, from a "scientific" angle.
I don't know what that means exactly.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that the universe was created from nothing 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that man was a product of that creation 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.
Science doesn’t say that we came from nothing. You ARE nothing.

Actually, science does kinda say that the universe came from nothing. Look into the Big Bang Theory sometime. Scientists say that is where the universe started, but they don't know what caused it, or what came before it.
You just said it yourself Big Bang THEORY. No scientific proof of that yet.
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy.
It's all still a theory, the word is even in the name, Big Bang Theory. Are you really this stupid?
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy. :)
Prove that those two things show that the universe came from nothing, then link it to a real scientific paper. You know you can't :biggrin:
Measurements of the Cosmic Microwave Background Temperature at high redshift by analysis of CO excitation - IOPscience

The linear relation between the temperature of the Cosmic Microwave Background and the cosmological redshift is a fundamental prediction of the standard hot Big Bang model.

:lol:
It doesn't elevate the BB from theory though, does it. Science can't see the BB. Suck it up princess.
 
I have. It says to not make an idol out of a book.
Does that mean you're not supposed to understand it?
No, but I don't read it literally like I assume you do. It was never meant to be read that way.
I trust, then, that you don't defend the creation story, for example, from a "scientific" angle.
I don't know what that means exactly.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that the universe was created from nothing 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that man was a product of that creation 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.
Science doesn’t say that we came from nothing. You ARE nothing.

Actually, science does kinda say that the universe came from nothing. Look into the Big Bang Theory sometime. Scientists say that is where the universe started, but they don't know what caused it, or what came before it.
You just said it yourself Big Bang THEORY. No scientific proof of that yet.
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy.
It's all still a theory, the word is even in the name, Big Bang Theory. Are you really this stupid?
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy. :)
Prove that those two things show that the universe came from nothing, then link it to a real scientific paper. You know you can't :biggrin:
Measurements of the Cosmic Microwave Background Temperature at high redshift by analysis of CO excitation - IOPscience

The linear relation between the temperature of the Cosmic Microwave Background and the cosmological redshift is a fundamental prediction of the standard hot Big Bang model.

:lol:
It doesn't elevate the BB from theory though, does it. Science can't see the BB. Suck it up princess.
You asked for the scientific paper and I provided it. Now you want to argue with observations and measurements that were predicted by the Big Bang model? :rofl:
 
I have. It says to not make an idol out of a book.
Does that mean you're not supposed to understand it?
No, but I don't read it literally like I assume you do. It was never meant to be read that way.
I trust, then, that you don't defend the creation story, for example, from a "scientific" angle.
I don't know what that means exactly.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that the universe was created from nothing 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that man was a product of that creation 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.
Science doesn’t say that we came from nothing. You ARE nothing.

Actually, science does kinda say that the universe came from nothing. Look into the Big Bang Theory sometime. Scientists say that is where the universe started, but they don't know what caused it, or what came before it.
You just said it yourself Big Bang THEORY. No scientific proof of that yet.
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy.
It's all still a theory, the word is even in the name, Big Bang Theory. Are you really this stupid?
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy. :)
Prove that those two things show that the universe came from nothing, then link it to a real scientific paper. You know you can't :biggrin:
Measurements of the Cosmic Microwave Background Temperature at high redshift by analysis of CO excitation - IOPscience

The linear relation between the temperature of the Cosmic Microwave Background and the cosmological redshift is a fundamental prediction of the standard hot Big Bang model.

:lol:
It doesn't elevate the BB from theory though, does it. Science can't see the BB. Suck it up princess.
You asked for the scientific paper and I provided it. Now you want to argue with observations and measurements that were predicted by the Big Bang model? :rofl:
You don't even know what you're ready. Quote the part that says that the universe came from nothing.
 
I have. It says to not make an idol out of a book.
Does that mean you're not supposed to understand it?
No, but I don't read it literally like I assume you do. It was never meant to be read that way.
I trust, then, that you don't defend the creation story, for example, from a "scientific" angle.
I don't know what that means exactly.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that the universe was created from nothing 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that man was a product of that creation 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.
Science doesn’t say that we came from nothing. You ARE nothing.

Actually, science does kinda say that the universe came from nothing. Look into the Big Bang Theory sometime. Scientists say that is where the universe started, but they don't know what caused it, or what came before it.
You just said it yourself Big Bang THEORY. No scientific proof of that yet.
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy.
It's all still a theory, the word is even in the name, Big Bang Theory. Are you really this stupid?
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy. :)
Prove that those two things show that the universe came from nothing, then link it to a real scientific paper. You know you can't :biggrin:
Measurements of the Cosmic Microwave Background Temperature at high redshift by analysis of CO excitation - IOPscience

The linear relation between the temperature of the Cosmic Microwave Background and the cosmological redshift is a fundamental prediction of the standard hot Big Bang model.

:lol:
It doesn't elevate the BB from theory though, does it. Science can't see the BB. Suck it up princess.
You asked for the scientific paper and I provided it. Now you want to argue with observations and measurements that were predicted by the Big Bang model? :rofl:
You don't even know what you're ready. Quote the part that says that the universe came from nothing.
No. You don't know what you are reading. The Big Bang model is predicated on the universe being created. It literally popped into existence and began to expand and cool. Learn some science, dummy.
 
I have. It says to not make an idol out of a book.
Does that mean you're not supposed to understand it?
No, but I don't read it literally like I assume you do. It was never meant to be read that way.
I trust, then, that you don't defend the creation story, for example, from a "scientific" angle.
I don't know what that means exactly.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that the universe was created from nothing 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that man was a product of that creation 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.
Science doesn’t say that we came from nothing. You ARE nothing.

Actually, science does kinda say that the universe came from nothing. Look into the Big Bang Theory sometime. Scientists say that is where the universe started, but they don't know what caused it, or what came before it.
You just said it yourself Big Bang THEORY. No scientific proof of that yet.
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy.
It's all still a theory, the word is even in the name, Big Bang Theory. Are you really this stupid?
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy. :)
Prove that those two things show that the universe came from nothing, then link it to a real scientific paper. You know you can't :biggrin:
Measurements of the Cosmic Microwave Background Temperature at high redshift by analysis of CO excitation - IOPscience

The linear relation between the temperature of the Cosmic Microwave Background and the cosmological redshift is a fundamental prediction of the standard hot Big Bang model.

:lol:
It doesn't elevate the BB from theory though, does it. Science can't see the BB. Suck it up princess.
You asked for the scientific paper and I provided it. Now you want to argue with observations and measurements that were predicted by the Big Bang model? :rofl:
You don't even know what you're ready. Quote the part that says that the universe came from nothing.
No. You don't know what you are reading. The Big Bang model is predicated on the universe being created. It literally popped into existence and began to expand and cool. Learn some science, dummy.
You can't even quote your own link. :lmao:
 
I have. It says to not make an idol out of a book.
Does that mean you're not supposed to understand it?
No, but I don't read it literally like I assume you do. It was never meant to be read that way.
I trust, then, that you don't defend the creation story, for example, from a "scientific" angle.
I don't know what that means exactly.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that the universe was created from nothing 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that man was a product of that creation 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.
Science doesn’t say that we came from nothing. You ARE nothing.

Actually, science does kinda say that the universe came from nothing. Look into the Big Bang Theory sometime. Scientists say that is where the universe started, but they don't know what caused it, or what came before it.
You just said it yourself Big Bang THEORY. No scientific proof of that yet.
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy.
It's all still a theory, the word is even in the name, Big Bang Theory. Are you really this stupid?
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy. :)
Prove that those two things show that the universe came from nothing, then link it to a real scientific paper. You know you can't :biggrin:
Measurements of the Cosmic Microwave Background Temperature at high redshift by analysis of CO excitation - IOPscience

The linear relation between the temperature of the Cosmic Microwave Background and the cosmological redshift is a fundamental prediction of the standard hot Big Bang model.

:lol:
It doesn't elevate the BB from theory though, does it. Science can't see the BB. Suck it up princess.
You asked for the scientific paper and I provided it. Now you want to argue with observations and measurements that were predicted by the Big Bang model? :rofl:
You don't even know what you're ready. Quote the part that says that the universe came from nothing.
No. You don't know what you are reading. The Big Bang model is predicated on the universe being created. It literally popped into existence and began to expand and cool. Learn some science, dummy.
" The Big Bang model is predicated on the universe being created", "Learn some science".

Aaahhh! A creation scientist. No wonder. Jackass. :lol:
 
I have. It says to not make an idol out of a book.
Does that mean you're not supposed to understand it?
No, but I don't read it literally like I assume you do. It was never meant to be read that way.
I trust, then, that you don't defend the creation story, for example, from a "scientific" angle.
I don't know what that means exactly.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that the universe was created from nothing 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that man was a product of that creation 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.
Science doesn’t say that we came from nothing. You ARE nothing.

Actually, science does kinda say that the universe came from nothing. Look into the Big Bang Theory sometime. Scientists say that is where the universe started, but they don't know what caused it, or what came before it.
You just said it yourself Big Bang THEORY. No scientific proof of that yet.
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy.
It's all still a theory, the word is even in the name, Big Bang Theory. Are you really this stupid?
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy. :)
Prove that those two things show that the universe came from nothing, then link it to a real scientific paper. You know you can't :biggrin:
Measurements of the Cosmic Microwave Background Temperature at high redshift by analysis of CO excitation - IOPscience

The linear relation between the temperature of the Cosmic Microwave Background and the cosmological redshift is a fundamental prediction of the standard hot Big Bang model.

:lol:
It doesn't elevate the BB from theory though, does it. Science can't see the BB. Suck it up princess.
You asked for the scientific paper and I provided it. Now you want to argue with observations and measurements that were predicted by the Big Bang model? :rofl:
You don't even know what you're ready. Quote the part that says that the universe came from nothing.
No. You don't know what you are reading. The Big Bang model is predicated on the universe being created. It literally popped into existence and began to expand and cool. Learn some science, dummy.
You can't even quote your own link. :lmao:
Wrong again, dummy. I quoted it in the post with the link but you were too stupid to see it :rofl:
 
I have. It says to not make an idol out of a book.
Does that mean you're not supposed to understand it?
No, but I don't read it literally like I assume you do. It was never meant to be read that way.
I trust, then, that you don't defend the creation story, for example, from a "scientific" angle.
I don't know what that means exactly.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that the universe was created from nothing 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that man was a product of that creation 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.
Science doesn’t say that we came from nothing. You ARE nothing.

Actually, science does kinda say that the universe came from nothing. Look into the Big Bang Theory sometime. Scientists say that is where the universe started, but they don't know what caused it, or what came before it.
You just said it yourself Big Bang THEORY. No scientific proof of that yet.
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy.
It's all still a theory, the word is even in the name, Big Bang Theory. Are you really this stupid?
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy. :)
Prove that those two things show that the universe came from nothing, then link it to a real scientific paper. You know you can't :biggrin:
Measurements of the Cosmic Microwave Background Temperature at high redshift by analysis of CO excitation - IOPscience

The linear relation between the temperature of the Cosmic Microwave Background and the cosmological redshift is a fundamental prediction of the standard hot Big Bang model.

:lol:
It doesn't elevate the BB from theory though, does it. Science can't see the BB. Suck it up princess.
You asked for the scientific paper and I provided it. Now you want to argue with observations and measurements that were predicted by the Big Bang model? :rofl:
You don't even know what you're ready. Quote the part that says that the universe came from nothing.
No. You don't know what you are reading. The Big Bang model is predicated on the universe being created. It literally popped into existence and began to expand and cool. Learn some science, dummy.
" The Big Bang model is predicated on the universe being created", "Learn some science".

Aaahhh! A creation scientist. No wonder. Jackass. :lol:
CERN are creation scientists? :lol:

"Did you know that the matter in your body is billions of years old?

According to most astrophysicists, all the matter found in the universe today -- including the matter in people, plants, animals, the earth, stars, and galaxies -- was created at the very first moment of time, thought to be about 13 billion years ago.

The universe began, scientists believe, with every speck of its energy jammed into a very tiny point. This extremely dense point exploded with unimaginable force, creating matter and propelling it outward to make the billions of galaxies of our vast universe. Astrophysicists dubbed this titanic explosion the Big Bang..."

 
It's very simple. The kingdom of God arrived two thousand years ago, according to the New Testament. Is Satan ruling it? Is he even lurking in it?

God fixed the world - where Israel lives - two thousand years ago. He's not coming to fix it again. If you think the Lord's work is not finished, though the Bible says it is, then you don't understand Christianity.
If this world is fixed, I'd hate to see what a broken world would look like..
 
Norwegen doesn't really know his Bible very well Ding. He's been trying to give us quotes from Revelation (which is the end times), and they haven't happened yet.

As far as John 12:31? Again, Norwegen shows his ignorance yet again, here is what the verse actually says.

31 Now is the time for judgment on this world; now the prince of this world will be driven out.

It says the price of this world WILL be driven out, not that he has been.
You gotta be kidding, right? You can't be that ignorant. That statement is not in a future tense; it's in a present tense. When you say, "Now I will order a pizza," you don't mean you'll order a pizza a year from now.

"Now (at this time, two thousand years ago) will the ruler of this world be cast out."

Present tense.

"Behold, I am making all things new."

Present tense.

Get a clue.
How exactly was Satan defeated?
 
I have. It says to not make an idol out of a book.
Does that mean you're not supposed to understand it?
No, but I don't read it literally like I assume you do. It was never meant to be read that way.
I trust, then, that you don't defend the creation story, for example, from a "scientific" angle.
I don't know what that means exactly.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that the universe was created from nothing 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that man was a product of that creation 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.
Science doesn’t say that we came from nothing. You ARE nothing.

Actually, science does kinda say that the universe came from nothing. Look into the Big Bang Theory sometime. Scientists say that is where the universe started, but they don't know what caused it, or what came before it.
You just said it yourself Big Bang THEORY. No scientific proof of that yet.
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy.
It's all still a theory, the word is even in the name, Big Bang Theory. Are you really this stupid?
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy. :)
Prove that those two things show that the universe came from nothing, then link it to a real scientific paper. You know you can't :biggrin:
Measurements of the Cosmic Microwave Background Temperature at high redshift by analysis of CO excitation - IOPscience

The linear relation between the temperature of the Cosmic Microwave Background and the cosmological redshift is a fundamental prediction of the standard hot Big Bang model.

:lol:
It doesn't elevate the BB from theory though, does it. Science can't see the BB. Suck it up princess.
You asked for the scientific paper and I provided it. Now you want to argue with observations and measurements that were predicted by the Big Bang model? :rofl:
You don't even know what you're ready. Quote the part that says that the universe came from nothing.
No. You don't know what you are reading. The Big Bang model is predicated on the universe being created. It literally popped into existence and began to expand and cool. Learn some science, dummy.
" The Big Bang model is predicated on the universe being created", "Learn some science".

Aaahhh! A creation scientist. No wonder. Jackass. :lol:
CERN are creation scientists? :lol:

"Did you know that the matter in your body is billions of years old?

According to most astrophysicists, all the matter found in the universe today -- including the matter in people, plants, animals, the earth, stars, and galaxies -- was created at the very first moment of time, thought to be about 13 billion years ago.

The universe began, scientists believe, with every speck of its energy jammed into a very tiny point. This extremely dense point exploded with unimaginable force, creating matter and propelling it outward to make the billions of galaxies of our vast universe. Astrophysicists dubbed this titanic explosion the Big Bang..."

"The universe began, scientists believe," Like I say every time, it's still a THEORY, not fact. Nobody can see all the way back to the BB. We may all be surprised when that happens.
 
I have. It says to not make an idol out of a book.
Does that mean you're not supposed to understand it?
No, but I don't read it literally like I assume you do. It was never meant to be read that way.
I trust, then, that you don't defend the creation story, for example, from a "scientific" angle.
I don't know what that means exactly.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that the universe was created from nothing 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that man was a product of that creation 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.
Science doesn’t say that we came from nothing. You ARE nothing.

Actually, science does kinda say that the universe came from nothing. Look into the Big Bang Theory sometime. Scientists say that is where the universe started, but they don't know what caused it, or what came before it.
You just said it yourself Big Bang THEORY. No scientific proof of that yet.
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy.
It's all still a theory, the word is even in the name, Big Bang Theory. Are you really this stupid?
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy. :)
Prove that those two things show that the universe came from nothing, then link it to a real scientific paper. You know you can't :biggrin:
Measurements of the Cosmic Microwave Background Temperature at high redshift by analysis of CO excitation - IOPscience

The linear relation between the temperature of the Cosmic Microwave Background and the cosmological redshift is a fundamental prediction of the standard hot Big Bang model.

:lol:
It doesn't elevate the BB from theory though, does it. Science can't see the BB. Suck it up princess.
You asked for the scientific paper and I provided it. Now you want to argue with observations and measurements that were predicted by the Big Bang model? :rofl:
You don't even know what you're ready. Quote the part that says that the universe came from nothing.
No. You don't know what you are reading. The Big Bang model is predicated on the universe being created. It literally popped into existence and began to expand and cool. Learn some science, dummy.
" The Big Bang model is predicated on the universe being created", "Learn some science".

Aaahhh! A creation scientist. No wonder. Jackass. :lol:
CERN are creation scientists? :lol:

"Did you know that the matter in your body is billions of years old?

According to most astrophysicists, all the matter found in the universe today -- including the matter in people, plants, animals, the earth, stars, and galaxies -- was created at the very first moment of time, thought to be about 13 billion years ago.

The universe began, scientists believe, with every speck of its energy jammed into a very tiny point. This extremely dense point exploded with unimaginable force, creating matter and propelling it outward to make the billions of galaxies of our vast universe. Astrophysicists dubbed this titanic explosion the Big Bang..."

"The universe began, scientists believe," Like I say every time, it's still a THEORY, not fact. Nobody can see all the way back to the BB. We may all be surprised when that happens.
I can't hear you over your crying that the universe began. :lol:
 
I have. It says to not make an idol out of a book.
Does that mean you're not supposed to understand it?
No, but I don't read it literally like I assume you do. It was never meant to be read that way.
I trust, then, that you don't defend the creation story, for example, from a "scientific" angle.
I don't know what that means exactly.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that the universe was created from nothing 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that man was a product of that creation 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.
Science doesn’t say that we came from nothing. You ARE nothing.

Actually, science does kinda say that the universe came from nothing. Look into the Big Bang Theory sometime. Scientists say that is where the universe started, but they don't know what caused it, or what came before it.
You just said it yourself Big Bang THEORY. No scientific proof of that yet.
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy.
It's all still a theory, the word is even in the name, Big Bang Theory. Are you really this stupid?
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy. :)
Prove that those two things show that the universe came from nothing, then link it to a real scientific paper. You know you can't :biggrin:
Measurements of the Cosmic Microwave Background Temperature at high redshift by analysis of CO excitation - IOPscience

The linear relation between the temperature of the Cosmic Microwave Background and the cosmological redshift is a fundamental prediction of the standard hot Big Bang model.

:lol:
It doesn't elevate the BB from theory though, does it. Science can't see the BB. Suck it up princess.
You asked for the scientific paper and I provided it. Now you want to argue with observations and measurements that were predicted by the Big Bang model? :rofl:
You don't even know what you're ready. Quote the part that says that the universe came from nothing.
No. You don't know what you are reading. The Big Bang model is predicated on the universe being created. It literally popped into existence and began to expand and cool. Learn some science, dummy.
" The Big Bang model is predicated on the universe being created", "Learn some science".

Aaahhh! A creation scientist. No wonder. Jackass. :lol:
CERN are creation scientists? :lol:

"Did you know that the matter in your body is billions of years old?

According to most astrophysicists, all the matter found in the universe today -- including the matter in people, plants, animals, the earth, stars, and galaxies -- was created at the very first moment of time, thought to be about 13 billion years ago.

The universe began, scientists believe, with every speck of its energy jammed into a very tiny point. This extremely dense point exploded with unimaginable force, creating matter and propelling it outward to make the billions of galaxies of our vast universe. Astrophysicists dubbed this titanic explosion the Big Bang..."

"The universe began, scientists believe," Like I say every time, it's still a THEORY, not fact. Nobody can see all the way back to the BB. We may all be surprised when that happens.
I can't hear you over your crying that the universe began. :lol:
It's HOW it began. We still only have theories. Like yours. So suck it up, princess.
 
It literally popped into freaking existence and started expanding and cooling. Bam!
 
I have. It says to not make an idol out of a book.
Does that mean you're not supposed to understand it?
No, but I don't read it literally like I assume you do. It was never meant to be read that way.
I trust, then, that you don't defend the creation story, for example, from a "scientific" angle.
I don't know what that means exactly.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that the universe was created from nothing 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.

As near as I can tell ancient man knew that man was a product of that creation 6,000 years before science arrived at the same conclusion.
Science doesn’t say that we came from nothing. You ARE nothing.

Actually, science does kinda say that the universe came from nothing. Look into the Big Bang Theory sometime. Scientists say that is where the universe started, but they don't know what caused it, or what came before it.
You just said it yourself Big Bang THEORY. No scientific proof of that yet.
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy.
It's all still a theory, the word is even in the name, Big Bang Theory. Are you really this stupid?
CMB and red shift say otherwise, dummy. :)
Prove that those two things show that the universe came from nothing, then link it to a real scientific paper. You know you can't :biggrin:
Measurements of the Cosmic Microwave Background Temperature at high redshift by analysis of CO excitation - IOPscience

The linear relation between the temperature of the Cosmic Microwave Background and the cosmological redshift is a fundamental prediction of the standard hot Big Bang model.

:lol:
It doesn't elevate the BB from theory though, does it. Science can't see the BB. Suck it up princess.
You asked for the scientific paper and I provided it. Now you want to argue with observations and measurements that were predicted by the Big Bang model? :rofl:
You don't even know what you're ready. Quote the part that says that the universe came from nothing.
No. You don't know what you are reading. The Big Bang model is predicated on the universe being created. It literally popped into existence and began to expand and cool. Learn some science, dummy.
" The Big Bang model is predicated on the universe being created", "Learn some science".

Aaahhh! A creation scientist. No wonder. Jackass. :lol:
CERN are creation scientists? :lol:

"Did you know that the matter in your body is billions of years old?

According to most astrophysicists, all the matter found in the universe today -- including the matter in people, plants, animals, the earth, stars, and galaxies -- was created at the very first moment of time, thought to be about 13 billion years ago.

The universe began, scientists believe, with every speck of its energy jammed into a very tiny point. This extremely dense point exploded with unimaginable force, creating matter and propelling it outward to make the billions of galaxies of our vast universe. Astrophysicists dubbed this titanic explosion the Big Bang..."

"The universe began, scientists believe," Like I say every time, it's still a THEORY, not fact. Nobody can see all the way back to the BB. We may all be surprised when that happens.
I can't hear you over your crying that the universe began. :lol:
It's HOW it began. We still only have theories. Like yours. So suck it up, princess.
Oh, I'm sure you'd like to violate every law of nature so you don't have to face reality but reality says the only way it can begin is to be created from nothing. Bam!
 

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