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The Bible Is The Story Of God And His Plan To Fix The World

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"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus Rev.21:5

Nothing on this earth has the power to defeat the finished work of the
Lord Jesus. "It is finished" said Jesus while on The Cross. Here are
the most powerful finished events in all of human history. No power
n the Universe can defeat these:

{1} The Cross -- the power of reconciliation, forgiveness, and restoration -- "being
justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" Romans 5:1

{2} The Resurrection -- the power of that Empty Tomb. He lives. He is alive.
He has conquered Death for us -- we now have eternal life.

{3} The Ascension -- the power of "I go to my Father" , , , "all authority in
Heaven and on earth has been give to me" Matthew 28:18

{4} The Exaltation -- the power of being now seated at the right hand of the
Almighty Sovereign God

The Bible is the true story of God and His Plan to set the world right again.

Yes , , ,
The Bible tells the true story of how God will Christianize the world and
successfully carry out His Son's Great Commission -- to go and make disciples
of all nations -- commanded at the very end of Matthew's gospel.

God is going to fix the world. The world is now broken -- but God is going to
fix it. Hope lives. Love conquers. Victory. The Cross wins the war for the world.
Evil is defeated. The Good wins. The world will be Christianized before the Lord
Jesus returns. The yeast of the gospel will make disciples of all the nations through
the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit who uses the plain simple gospel message
to regenerate the hearts of men and to enable them to believe in Jesus as their
Savior and then to understand the Bible, as the Holy Spirit begins the process
of creating the fruits of the Holy Spirit in their lives , , ,

Step one is John 3:3 -- you must be born again {regenerated}
Step two is John 3:16 -- you must believe in Jesus as your Savior
Step three is Galatians 5:22-23 -- you must allow the Holy Spirit
o produce these 8 qualities within your heart , , ,

Love
Joy
Forbearance
Kindness
Goodness
Faithfulness
Gentleness
Self-control

The Holy Spirit produces these 8 qualities in the hearts of humans.
This process is what finally fixes the world.

"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus

"And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling
place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be
his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. ‘He will
wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning
or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” Rev. 21:3-4

JAG
What's taking him so long?
Us.
Why? Or you don't know that either? :biggrin:
Because we rationalize wrong as right instead of being accountable. You more than anyone knows that, right?
Doesn't explain why god is waiting so long to fix things.

God is not waiting to fix things.
He has been working steadily over the centuries.
You MUST compare the correct time periods. This means
you do not compare the year 2000 with the year 2021, instead
you compare the year say 1860 with the year 2021 -- do this
and you will observe steady improvement in a large number of
areas of human life.

JAG

``
Yes, this is biblical, and really, I think, the engine that drives the gospel, i.e., the kingdom. The Lord's government and peace would not end (Is 9:7; Lk 1:33).

Armenia, Ethiopia, the Roman Empire, the Byzantine Empire, and on and on; Greece, Denmark, England, Iceland, Norway, Samoa, Tonga, each in due course, one after another, nation after nation by the work of the Holy Spirit, government rested on the Lord’s shoulders; nations began walking in the light of it and even kings began proclaiming it (Rv 21:24). As Zion had clamored for all along, God was rising to inherit all the nations (Ps 82:8).
 

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"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus Rev.21:5

Nothing on this earth has the power to defeat the finished work of the
Lord Jesus. "It is finished" said Jesus while on The Cross. Here are
the most powerful finished events in all of human history. No power
n the Universe can defeat these:

{1} The Cross -- the power of reconciliation, forgiveness, and restoration -- "being
justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" Romans 5:1

{2} The Resurrection -- the power of that Empty Tomb. He lives. He is alive.
He has conquered Death for us -- we now have eternal life.

{3} The Ascension -- the power of "I go to my Father" , , , "all authority in
Heaven and on earth has been give to me" Matthew 28:18

{4} The Exaltation -- the power of being now seated at the right hand of the
Almighty Sovereign God

The Bible is the true story of God and His Plan to set the world right again.

Yes , , ,
The Bible tells the true story of how God will Christianize the world and
successfully carry out His Son's Great Commission -- to go and make disciples
of all nations -- commanded at the very end of Matthew's gospel.

God is going to fix the world. The world is now broken -- but God is going to
fix it. Hope lives. Love conquers. Victory. The Cross wins the war for the world.
Evil is defeated. The Good wins. The world will be Christianized before the Lord
Jesus returns. The yeast of the gospel will make disciples of all the nations through
the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit who uses the plain simple gospel message
to regenerate the hearts of men and to enable them to believe in Jesus as their
Savior and then to understand the Bible, as the Holy Spirit begins the process
of creating the fruits of the Holy Spirit in their lives , , ,

Step one is John 3:3 -- you must be born again {regenerated}
Step two is John 3:16 -- you must believe in Jesus as your Savior
Step three is Galatians 5:22-23 -- you must allow the Holy Spirit
o produce these 8 qualities within your heart , , ,

Love
Joy
Forbearance
Kindness
Goodness
Faithfulness
Gentleness
Self-control

The Holy Spirit produces these 8 qualities in the hearts of humans.
This process is what finally fixes the world.

"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus

"And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling
place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be
his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. ‘He will
wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning
or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” Rev. 21:3-4

JAG
What's taking him so long?
Us.
Why? Or you don't know that either? :biggrin:
Because we rationalize wrong as right instead of being accountable. You more than anyone knows that, right?
Doesn't explain why god is waiting so long to fix things.

God is not waiting to fix things.
He has been working steadily over the centuries.
You MUST compare the correct time periods. This means
you do not compare the year 2000 with the year 2021, instead
you compare the year say 1860 with the year 2021 -- do this
and you will observe steady improvement in a large number of
areas of human life.

JAG

``
A) What's taking Him so long?

B) Why did He make a universe with so many problems in it in the first place?
 

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"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus Rev.21:5

Nothing on this earth has the power to defeat the finished work of the
Lord Jesus. "It is finished" said Jesus while on The Cross. Here are
the most powerful finished events in all of human history. No power
n the Universe can defeat these:

{1} The Cross -- the power of reconciliation, forgiveness, and restoration -- "being
justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" Romans 5:1

{2} The Resurrection -- the power of that Empty Tomb. He lives. He is alive.
He has conquered Death for us -- we now have eternal life.

{3} The Ascension -- the power of "I go to my Father" , , , "all authority in
Heaven and on earth has been give to me" Matthew 28:18

{4} The Exaltation -- the power of being now seated at the right hand of the
Almighty Sovereign God

The Bible is the true story of God and His Plan to set the world right again.

Yes , , ,
The Bible tells the true story of how God will Christianize the world and
successfully carry out His Son's Great Commission -- to go and make disciples
of all nations -- commanded at the very end of Matthew's gospel.

God is going to fix the world. The world is now broken -- but God is going to
fix it. Hope lives. Love conquers. Victory. The Cross wins the war for the world.
Evil is defeated. The Good wins. The world will be Christianized before the Lord
Jesus returns. The yeast of the gospel will make disciples of all the nations through
the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit who uses the plain simple gospel message
to regenerate the hearts of men and to enable them to believe in Jesus as their
Savior and then to understand the Bible, as the Holy Spirit begins the process
of creating the fruits of the Holy Spirit in their lives , , ,

Step one is John 3:3 -- you must be born again {regenerated}
Step two is John 3:16 -- you must believe in Jesus as your Savior
Step three is Galatians 5:22-23 -- you must allow the Holy Spirit
o produce these 8 qualities within your heart , , ,

Love
Joy
Forbearance
Kindness
Goodness
Faithfulness
Gentleness
Self-control

The Holy Spirit produces these 8 qualities in the hearts of humans.
This process is what finally fixes the world.

"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus

"And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling
place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be
his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. ‘He will
wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning
or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” Rev. 21:3-4

JAG
What's taking him so long?
Us.
Why? Or you don't know that either? :biggrin:
Because we rationalize wrong as right instead of being accountable. You more than anyone knows that, right?
Doesn't explain why god is waiting so long to fix things.

God is not waiting to fix things.
He has been working steadily over the centuries.
You MUST compare the correct time periods. This means
you do not compare the year 2000 with the year 2021, instead
you compare the year say 1860 with the year 2021 -- do this
and you will observe steady improvement in a large number of
areas of human life.

JAG

``
A) What's taking Him so long?

B) Why did He make a universe with so many problems in it in the first place?
There will be no wine before it's time. ;)

But why did God not create a world so perfect that no evil could exist in it? With infinite power God could always create something better. But with infinite wisdom and goodness God freely willed to create a world "in a state of journeying" towards its ultimate perfection. In God's plan this process of becoming involves the appearance of certain beings and the disappearance of others, the existence of the more perfect alongside the less perfect, both constructive and destructive forces of nature. With physical good there exists also physical evil as long as creation has not reached perfection.

For almighty God. . ., because he is supremely good, would never allow any evil whatsoever to exist in his works if he were not so all-powerful and good as to cause good to emerge from evil itself. :)
 

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That new has to be in us, being like Jesus, thus not being of the world. Peacful heaven in us, no matter who is having sex with whoever, or whatever species, or jacking them off, or having penetrative sex. They are not piercing a body with a bullet, or slashing flesh with a sharp object. The power of the kind Jesus keeps us out of the worst prison that can ever be, living in our mind. Jesus is the rock that we stand on, not being offended by what is seen. Laws will change when enough people see this. More people will find the peacful, narrow way.
Jesus is not an accusing condemner. Jesus loves honest, peacful people. Muslim is Muslim no matter what the name. They are not obeying the father God. The being they bow down to cannot identify as the Father God. That is not hate. That is a fact. The church taught false whatever 100%. I am working to change that. Jamies 1:26 - 127 , KJV does not talk about religon as being what the church taught.
Censoring people, and moderating people, and people who have community guidelines are obeying Satan, who is of the world. This is all that being has. Satan does not look like what people depict in art. Satan is an extremely bright being, covered in gold and gems. People will mistake that being as an angelic being, or God, had people not know Jesus who the Unseen Father God sent. Mecca trekkers Q book readers think Satan is black with one eye. That is false. People who cannot determine who is good or evil will not know Jesus who is not a condemner. Jesus is not offended by what is seen, thus has perfect peace. Psalms 119:165“Great peace have they which love thy law: and nothing shall offend them.” The problems that face real people, have not been portrayed on the silver screen, thus have not shown good, against evil. Condemners are evil. The topic would have to be what age can interact with whatever age or what species can interact with whatever species. Evil people are offended when I say the names directly. The natural man, who has a carnal mind would make the two names to be evil, Accusing condemners are evil. Evil people will do what they can, to make condemners seem to be good. Our body is flawed. Our body is not like Adam, and Eve's body, before the fall. People would have seen Jesus as being courageous, had he destroyed the Romans. Jesus would have lost to Satan. Jesus would have looked like he won had he come of the cross in a spectacular way. Jesus would have lost, being like Satan. Jesus did not try to prove who he was. Jesus would have lost to Satan had he done that. Psalms 37:“Mark the perfect man, and behold the upright: for the end of that man is peace.”
King James Version (KJV)
 

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We may not all be practicing Jews....but Europeans are from the same tribe. Christianity is just an offshoot from Judaism. Rome....Catholics.....Protestants.
Even Muslims used to be part of the Jewish people before Muhammad came along and decided to create his own religion.
But I don't think we were chosen to do anything other than live our lives and obey the Golden Rule.
The Jewish faith has at times been guilty of straying from the word of God. That is what the Bible explains in great detail. It's a history lesson on what to do and what not to do. Some of it is in the form of Parables...and not to be taken literally...while some of it is the actual discussion of specific events in the history of the Jewish People.
MY friend. Religon that is pure and undefiled cares about people. They bless people with their words. Jamies 1:26 - 27, KJV. Muhammad was possessed by an angelic being impersonator. That sexless, genital hating being, will not say fear not, or don't be afraid, or don't worry, when seen. God and angelic beings will say that.
 

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"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus Rev.21:5

Nothing on this earth has the power to defeat the finished work of the
Lord Jesus. "It is finished" said Jesus while on The Cross. Here are
the most powerful finished events in all of human history. No power
n the Universe can defeat these:

{1} The Cross -- the power of reconciliation, forgiveness, and restoration -- "being
justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" Romans 5:1

{2} The Resurrection -- the power of that Empty Tomb. He lives. He is alive.
He has conquered Death for us -- we now have eternal life.

{3} The Ascension -- the power of "I go to my Father" , , , "all authority in
Heaven and on earth has been give to me" Matthew 28:18

{4} The Exaltation -- the power of being now seated at the right hand of the
Almighty Sovereign God

The Bible is the true story of God and His Plan to set the world right again.

Yes , , ,
The Bible tells the true story of how God will Christianize the world and
successfully carry out His Son's Great Commission -- to go and make disciples
of all nations -- commanded at the very end of Matthew's gospel.

God is going to fix the world. The world is now broken -- but God is going to
fix it. Hope lives. Love conquers. Victory. The Cross wins the war for the world.
Evil is defeated. The Good wins. The world will be Christianized before the Lord
Jesus returns. The yeast of the gospel will make disciples of all the nations through
the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit who uses the plain simple gospel message
to regenerate the hearts of men and to enable them to believe in Jesus as their
Savior and then to understand the Bible, as the Holy Spirit begins the process
of creating the fruits of the Holy Spirit in their lives , , ,

Step one is John 3:3 -- you must be born again {regenerated}
Step two is John 3:16 -- you must believe in Jesus as your Savior
Step three is Galatians 5:22-23 -- you must allow the Holy Spirit
o produce these 8 qualities within your heart , , ,

Love
Joy
Forbearance
Kindness
Goodness
Faithfulness
Gentleness
Self-control

The Holy Spirit produces these 8 qualities in the hearts of humans.
This process is what finally fixes the world.

"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus

"And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling
place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be
his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. ‘He will
wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning
or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” Rev. 21:3-4

JAG
Jesus, before he ascended said; work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. People got that backwards with the fear giving legal system. Islam works in the same way, being deceptively worse.
 

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"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus Rev.21:5

Nothing on this earth has the power to defeat the finished work of the
Lord Jesus. "It is finished" said Jesus while on The Cross. Here are
the most powerful finished events in all of human history. No power
n the Universe can defeat these:

{1} The Cross -- the power of reconciliation, forgiveness, and restoration -- "being
justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" Romans 5:1

{2} The Resurrection -- the power of that Empty Tomb. He lives. He is alive.
He has conquered Death for us -- we now have eternal life.

{3} The Ascension -- the power of "I go to my Father" , , , "all authority in
Heaven and on earth has been give to me" Matthew 28:18

{4} The Exaltation -- the power of being now seated at the right hand of the
Almighty Sovereign God

The Bible is the true story of God and His Plan to set the world right again.

Yes , , ,
The Bible tells the true story of how God will Christianize the world and
successfully carry out His Son's Great Commission -- to go and make disciples
of all nations -- commanded at the very end of Matthew's gospel.

God is going to fix the world. The world is now broken -- but God is going to
fix it. Hope lives. Love conquers. Victory. The Cross wins the war for the world.
Evil is defeated. The Good wins. The world will be Christianized before the Lord
Jesus returns. The yeast of the gospel will make disciples of all the nations through
the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit who uses the plain simple gospel message
to regenerate the hearts of men and to enable them to believe in Jesus as their
Savior and then to understand the Bible, as the Holy Spirit begins the process
of creating the fruits of the Holy Spirit in their lives , , ,

Step one is John 3:3 -- you must be born again {regenerated}
Step two is John 3:16 -- you must believe in Jesus as your Savior
Step three is Galatians 5:22-23 -- you must allow the Holy Spirit
o produce these 8 qualities within your heart , , ,

Love
Joy
Forbearance
Kindness
Goodness
Faithfulness
Gentleness
Self-control

The Holy Spirit produces these 8 qualities in the hearts of humans.
This process is what finally fixes the world.

"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus

"And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling
place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be
his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. ‘He will
wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning
or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” Rev. 21:3-4

JAG
God has been "living within every believer" since Jesus pointed out the fact there was to be no physical kingdom of God on earth. The Kingdom of God is located in you. "The kingdom of God does not come with observation; nor will they say, 'See here! or See there!', FOR INDEED THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS WITHIN YOU." -- Luke 17:20

To expect a "literal Kingdom" on earth is a false hope. And to suggest that the Christ failed on his first attempt to establish a kingdom as directed by the prophecy found in Jer. 31:31-34 is nothing but a false premise. Note: The scriptures you quoted form in Rev. 21:31-34 is but a mirror to the prophecy found in the Book of Jer. 31

Notice the common text......its like a reflection in confirming that the Prophecy found in Jer. 31 would shortly be fulfilled with the symbolism of Rev. 21:31-34.
In Jer. its pointed out that the OLD LAW.....i.e, the old order of things would pass away, and the laws would no longer be written on stone but in the Heart of God's subjects....i.e., within the believer, and they would be God's chosen and God would dwell among them in their hearts. A spiritual kingdom is the only kingdom that Jesus could possibly rule over.

Why? Shortly before the kingdom of Judah fell into Babylonian captivity, Jeremiah prophesied that Coniah would be the last sovereign ruler to ever sit on the throne. "For none of his descendants shall prosper, sitting on the throne of David and ruling anymore in Judah (Jer. 22:30). Jesus is literally the fleshly descendant of this cursed lineage, therefore Jesus can never sit in physical rule of any earthly kingdom. Its true that Jesus sits in rule of David's throne...but, not in Jerusalem (Luke 1:32, Acts 2:30).

You would have everyone believe that Jesus never established his kingdom and the kingdom is yet to come at some point in the future. But the scriptures tell us, "There are some standing here (where? there in the 1st century) who shall not taste death until till they see the kingdom of God." -- Luke 9:27.

So......unless you are claiming there are 2000 year old people that personally witnessed Jesus' teaching still alive on earth today.....................the Christ most certainly established His kingdom in the 1st century.

The scriptures also enlighten us to the fact that the reign of Christ will not occur when He returns for the resurrection as that is when Jesus hands the kingdom back over to Father God. (1 Cor. 15:24-25).

Jesus is sitting in reign right now (over His spiritual kingdom at the right hand of God in heaven, as the King of Kings) on David's throne. The believer has already been conveyed into Christ's/God's kingdom ".........has delivered us from the power of darkness and conveyed us into the kingdom of the Son of His love, in whom we have redemption through His blood, for the forgiveness of sin." -- Col. 1:13-14.

Again Jesus makes it clear that its a spiritual kingdom not a physical kingdom that He established, "Most assuredly, I say to you, unless one is born of WATER (baptized -- Acts 10:47, 1 Peter 3:20-21) and the SPIRIT; he cannot enter the kingdom of God." -- John 3:5

Daniel also spoke of a coming spiritual kingdom, "The God of Heaven will sit up a kingdom that shall never be destroyed, and the kingdom shall not be left to other people; it shall break into pieces and consume all these kingdoms and it shall stand forever." -- Daniel 2:44






Again the Christ declares, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I might not be delivered to the Jews. But know My kingdom is not of from here." -- John 18:36
 

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The Bible Is The Story Of God And His Plan To Fix The World​


The Holy Bible is a volume of books that mostly mesh, but occasionally contradict.

And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen. 1 Kings 4:26

vs

And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen. 2 Chron. 9:25

So they're off by an order of magnitude.

Believe as you wish. But let's not substitute outright fiction for manifest reality. The Holy Bible is about religion. Any accuracy it may have about god is purely coincidental.

"I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief." Gerry Spence, Attorney at Law
 

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Fix the world? By taking all the believers to heaven and leaving the rest behind? How odd. How has the world been "fixed"? All the Christians are gone? That seems extreme, haha
 

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Fix the world? By taking all the believers to heaven and leaving the rest behind? How odd. How has the world been "fixed"? All the Christians are gone? That seems extreme, haha
It's not to fix the world, but to destroy it by setting the sky on fire with the second coming. Then he rolls up the sky like a scroll and the universe is destroyed. I suppose atheists have a contradiction and think of it as the universe collapsing after expansion. God's plan is salvation for the believers as they ascend into heaven.
 

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"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus Rev.21:5

Nothing on this earth has the power to defeat the finished work of the
Lord Jesus. "It is finished" said Jesus while on The Cross. Here are
the most powerful finished events in all of human history. No power
n the Universe can defeat these:

{1} The Cross -- the power of reconciliation, forgiveness, and restoration -- "being
justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" Romans 5:1

{2} The Resurrection -- the power of that Empty Tomb. He lives. He is alive.
He has conquered Death for us -- we now have eternal life.

{3} The Ascension -- the power of "I go to my Father" , , , "all authority in
Heaven and on earth has been give to me" Matthew 28:18

{4} The Exaltation -- the power of being now seated at the right hand of the
Almighty Sovereign God

The Bible is the true story of God and His Plan to set the world right again.

Yes , , ,
The Bible tells the true story of how God will Christianize the world and
successfully carry out His Son's Great Commission -- to go and make disciples
of all nations -- commanded at the very end of Matthew's gospel.

God is going to fix the world. The world is now broken -- but God is going to
fix it. Hope lives. Love conquers. Victory. The Cross wins the war for the world.
Evil is defeated. The Good wins. The world will be Christianized before the Lord
Jesus returns. The yeast of the gospel will make disciples of all the nations through
the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit who uses the plain simple gospel message
to regenerate the hearts of men and to enable them to believe in Jesus as their
Savior and then to understand the Bible, as the Holy Spirit begins the process
of creating the fruits of the Holy Spirit in their lives , , ,

Step one is John 3:3 -- you must be born again {regenerated}
Step two is John 3:16 -- you must believe in Jesus as your Savior
Step three is Galatians 5:22-23 -- you must allow the Holy Spirit
o produce these 8 qualities within your heart , , ,

Love
Joy
Forbearance
Kindness
Goodness
Faithfulness
Gentleness
Self-control

The Holy Spirit produces these 8 qualities in the hearts of humans.
This process is what finally fixes the world.

"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus

"And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling
place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be
his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. ‘He will
wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning
or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” Rev. 21:3-4

JAG
>>>>>"I am making everything new"__ Jesus >>>>>Rev.21:5

Yeah ummm Cori Bush type radicals promised the same thing about America and about law enforcement and incarceration, how's that rules for radicals social system, "make everything new all over again" working out for us?
The morning star[=lucifer]-(Rev 22:16) said:
He is coming to destroy not bring peace:(Matthew 10: 34-40.)“Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace on earth; I have not come to bring peace but a sword [an Aramaic idiom meaning division]. For I have come to set a man against his father and a daughter against her mother and a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law. And a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household. Whoever loves father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; and whoever loves son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. And whoever does not take up his cross and follow me [worship death as he did] is not worthy of me. He who is concerned about his life shall lose it; and he who loses his life for my sake shall find it. Whoever receives you, receives me; and whoever receives me receives him who sent me."

In Thomas Verse 16 "Perhaps people think that I have come to bring peace to theworld. They do not know that I have come to bring conflict to the earth: fire, sword, war. For five people will be in a house: It will be three against two, and two against three, father against son, and son against father, and they will stand
In 2 Peter 3:10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
Does this sound like a savior to save the world or the Abbadon= (destroyer) to destroy the world?
Revelations 1:18 I am the Living One; I was dead, and behold I am alive for ever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades.
And yet In Rev 9:1 "the fallen star(Lucifer) was given the key to the shaft of the Abyss. Jesus is the one admitting to having this Key to the abyss in Revelation 1:18.

Revelations 6:7 When the Lamb opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth living creature say, "Come!"
6:8 I looked, and there before me was a pale horse! Its rider was named Death, and Hades was following close behind him. They were given power over a fourth of the earth to kill by sword, famine and plague, and by the wild beasts of the earth. And I, if I am lifted up from the earth (cast out/gone to sheol), will draw all peoples to Myself. (John 12:32) He knew in dying he would draw people to himself rather then to G-d the dying god mythology was thus imitated where the son (the morning star) surpasses his father Baal. He wanted to raise himself high into the heavens above the throne
of G-d: like in Isaiah 14:12 the Morning Star Heb Helel; i.e. shining one (Luciferous image).
 

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"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus Rev.21:5

Nothing on this earth has the power to defeat the finished work of the
Lord Jesus. "It is finished" said Jesus while on The Cross. Here are
the most powerful finished events in all of human history. No power
n the Universe can defeat these:

{1} The Cross -- the power of reconciliation, forgiveness, and restoration -- "being
justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" Romans 5:1

{2} The Resurrection -- the power of that Empty Tomb. He lives. He is alive.
He has conquered Death for us -- we now have eternal life.

{3} The Ascension -- the power of "I go to my Father" , , , "all authority in
Heaven and on earth has been give to me" Matthew 28:18

{4} The Exaltation -- the power of being now seated at the right hand of the
Almighty Sovereign God

The Bible is the true story of God and His Plan to set the world right again.

Yes , , ,
The Bible tells the true story of how God will Christianize the world and
successfully carry out His Son's Great Commission -- to go and make disciples
of all nations -- commanded at the very end of Matthew's gospel.

God is going to fix the world. The world is now broken -- but God is going to
fix it. Hope lives. Love conquers. Victory. The Cross wins the war for the world.
Evil is defeated. The Good wins. The world will be Christianized before the Lord
Jesus returns. The yeast of the gospel will make disciples of all the nations through
the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit who uses the plain simple gospel message
to regenerate the hearts of men and to enable them to believe in Jesus as their
Savior and then to understand the Bible, as the Holy Spirit begins the process
of creating the fruits of the Holy Spirit in their lives , , ,

Step one is John 3:3 -- you must be born again {regenerated}
Step two is John 3:16 -- you must believe in Jesus as your Savior
Step three is Galatians 5:22-23 -- you must allow the Holy Spirit
o produce these 8 qualities within your heart , , ,

Love
Joy
Forbearance
Kindness
Goodness
Faithfulness
Gentleness
Self-control

The Holy Spirit produces these 8 qualities in the hearts of humans.
This process is what finally fixes the world.

"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus

"And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling
place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be
his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. ‘He will
wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning
or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” Rev. 21:3-4

JAG

Well we'll plagairised.
I went into a hypnotic state after reading that rubbish. You nearly put me to sleep.

Do you really believe that rubbish or just starting a talking point?
Resurrections? You have to be kidding.
 

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The Bible Is The Story Of God And His Plan To Fix The World​


The Holy Bible is a volume of books that mostly mesh, but occasionally contradict.

And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen. 1 Kings 4:26
vs

And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen. 2 Chron. 9:25

So they're off by an order of magnitude.

Believe as you wish. But let's not substitute outright fiction for manifest reality. The Holy Bible is about religion. Any accuracy it may have about god is purely coincidental.

"I would rather have a mind opened by wonder than one closed by belief." Gerry Spence, Attorney at Law
There is nothing contradictory with the "inspired" word of God. The alleged contradictions are due to "men" adding words during the translation process. One can read the context and apply the subject matter to determine that these supposed "contradictions" are due to there being a "Chronological" difference and an error in translation.

The Bible was not complied in chronological order. For example you point to 2 different books of the bible and claim contradiction.....when each of the books were separated by hundreds of years (as the bible is not one single book but many different books with many different authors). Reality: The events mentioned above are from 2 different time periods and not necessarily in chronological order. One book was written during the time period of 560-540 (1 Kings).....the other 2 Chron. about 966.

There are no "factual discrepancies"...........there are simply 2 different accounts attempting to address the same event with a time span of hundreds years between each author, then there is the problem of men adding or taking away words from these inspired writings. As you pointed out......there are any number of reasons for the supposed contradictions, the most obvious is translator error. But nothing is taken away from subject matter or message by someone errantly adding an extra digit by mistake when handwriting a copy of the holy scriptures.

Men make mistakes......God does not. There is a vast difference between an error in translation and supposed "Factual Discrepancies". What is proven is the length to which some will attempt to go in order to discredit the truth found in the Holy Scriptures. To be considered A FACT........one must remove every possibility of error by men and prove that God inspired lies to be recorded. There are any numbers of reasons that can be presented to account for these supposed contradictions that gives anyone reason to doubt the Bible is not the inspired word of God. I have just presented 2 possibilities to explain the supposed contradiction. Even if but "one" plausible reason exists to offer an explanation.......there can be no "FACTUAL DISCREPANCIES". When a fact is presented there can be no other answers possible.
 
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There is nothing contradictory with the "inspired" word of God.
I anticipated this specific comment, my reason for quoting an indisputable, quantifiable contradiction directly from holy scripture.
1 Kings 4:26 and 2 Chron. 9:25 refer to the same stable, but conflict by an order of magnitude.
They are different, and therefore cannot POSSIBLY both be correct.
I won't squabble about which is correct. Whichever, if either, then the other is incorrect. That forever refutes the notion of scriptural infallibility. They can't both be right.

That does not undermine the doctrine of divine perfection. But it raises a cascade of questions about religion.
 
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I anticipated this specific comment, my reason for quoting an indisputable, quantifiable contradiction directly from holy scripture.
1 Kings 4:26 and 2 Chron. 9:25 refer to the same stable, but conflict by an order of magnitude.
They are different, and therefore cannot POSSIBLY both be correct.
I won't squabble about which is correct. Whichever, if either, then the other is incorrect. That forever refutes the notion of scriptural infallibility. They can't both be right.

That does not undermine the doctrine of divine perfection. But it raises a cascade of questions about religion.
Start quote.
"Bible Problem: 1 Kings 4:26 vs 2 Chronicles 9:25. Did Solomon Have 40,000 Stalls for His Horses or 4,000?

Problem:


1 Kings 4:26 says:

And Solomon had forty thousand stalls of horses for his chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen.

But 2 Chronicles 9:25 says:

And Solomon had four thousand stalls for horses and chariots, and twelve thousand horsemen; whom he bestowed in the chariot cities, and with the king at Jerusalem.

Did King Solomon have forty thousand stalls or four thousand stalls?

Solution:

Solomon had four thousand stalls for his horses AND chariots. There were ten horses assigned to each chariot.

There were forty thousand stalls for horses. Each of the four thousand chariot stalls had ten smaller stalls to house the chariot horses.

Each chariot was assigned ten men and ten horses so when something happened to the men and horses in battle they could be exchanged for fresh men and horses; “the ones who were sitting on the bench.”

So, for example, Let’s say we have a chariot with four horses and two men in battle. When a man or horse gets too tired, injured or killed, they are swapped out for any of the other six horses and eight men waiting on the side lines.

This strategy would keep the chariots continuously in battle."
End quote.

Best Regards.

JAG
 

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"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus Rev.21:5

Nothing on this earth has the power to defeat the finished work of the
Lord Jesus. "It is finished" said Jesus while on The Cross. Here are
the most powerful finished events in all of human history. No power
n the Universe can defeat these:

{1} The Cross -- the power of reconciliation, forgiveness, and restoration -- "being
justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" Romans 5:1

{2} The Resurrection -- the power of that Empty Tomb. He lives. He is alive.
He has conquered Death for us -- we now have eternal life.

{3} The Ascension -- the power of "I go to my Father" , , , "all authority in
Heaven and on earth has been give to me" Matthew 28:18

{4} The Exaltation -- the power of being now seated at the right hand of the
Almighty Sovereign God

The Bible is the true story of God and His Plan to set the world right again.

Yes , , ,
The Bible tells the true story of how God will Christianize the world and
successfully carry out His Son's Great Commission -- to go and make disciples
of all nations -- commanded at the very end of Matthew's gospel.

God is going to fix the world. The world is now broken -- but God is going to
fix it. Hope lives. Love conquers. Victory. The Cross wins the war for the world.
Evil is defeated. The Good wins. The world will be Christianized before the Lord
Jesus returns. The yeast of the gospel will make disciples of all the nations through
the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit who uses the plain simple gospel message
to regenerate the hearts of men and to enable them to believe in Jesus as their
Savior and then to understand the Bible, as the Holy Spirit begins the process
of creating the fruits of the Holy Spirit in their lives , , ,

Step one is John 3:3 -- you must be born again {regenerated}
Step two is John 3:16 -- you must believe in Jesus as your Savior
Step three is Galatians 5:22-23 -- you must allow the Holy Spirit
o produce these 8 qualities within your heart , , ,

Love
Joy
Forbearance
Kindness
Goodness
Faithfulness
Gentleness
Self-control

The Holy Spirit produces these 8 qualities in the hearts of humans.
This process is what finally fixes the world.

"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus

"And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling
place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be
his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. ‘He will
wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning
or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” Rev. 21:3-4

JAG
Christs struggle against Satan was finished. Satan could not get Jesus to sin. Jesus proved that God's loving law can be kept. Christ's mind saves us. living in our mind.
 

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"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus Rev.21:5

Nothing on this earth has the power to defeat the finished work of the
Lord Jesus. "It is finished" said Jesus while on The Cross. Here are
the most powerful finished events in all of human history. No power
n the Universe can defeat these:

{1} The Cross -- the power of reconciliation, forgiveness, and restoration -- "being
justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" Romans 5:1

{2} The Resurrection -- the power of that Empty Tomb. He lives. He is alive.
He has conquered Death for us -- we now have eternal life.

{3} The Ascension -- the power of "I go to my Father" , , , "all authority in
Heaven and on earth has been give to me" Matthew 28:18

{4} The Exaltation -- the power of being now seated at the right hand of the
Almighty Sovereign God

The Bible is the true story of God and His Plan to set the world right again.

Yes , , ,
The Bible tells the true story of how God will Christianize the world and
successfully carry out His Son's Great Commission -- to go and make disciples
of all nations -- commanded at the very end of Matthew's gospel.

God is going to fix the world. The world is now broken -- but God is going to
fix it. Hope lives. Love conquers. Victory. The Cross wins the war for the world.
Evil is defeated. The Good wins. The world will be Christianized before the Lord
Jesus returns. The yeast of the gospel will make disciples of all the nations through
the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit who uses the plain simple gospel message
to regenerate the hearts of men and to enable them to believe in Jesus as their
Savior and then to understand the Bible, as the Holy Spirit begins the process
of creating the fruits of the Holy Spirit in their lives , , ,

Step one is John 3:3 -- you must be born again {regenerated}
Step two is John 3:16 -- you must believe in Jesus as your Savior
Step three is Galatians 5:22-23 -- you must allow the Holy Spirit
o produce these 8 qualities within your heart , , ,

Love
Joy
Forbearance
Kindness
Goodness
Faithfulness
Gentleness
Self-control

The Holy Spirit produces these 8 qualities in the hearts of humans.
This process is what finally fixes the world.

"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus

"And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling
place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be
his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. ‘He will
wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning
or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” Rev. 21:3-4

JAG
God needs to work through us, to fix it. The church makes God to be out there somewhere, and think that Jesus is out there somewhere being a seperate being which is a lie. Innocent people think that lie is true, affecting animation. Jesus and God are depicted as being two visual beings. Jesus is visually seen. The Unseen Father is in Christs mind.
 

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God needs to work through us, to fix it. The church makes God to be out there somewhere, and think that Jesus is out there somewhere being a seperate being which is a lie. Innocent people think that lie is true, affecting animation. Jesus and God are depicted as being two visual beings. Jesus is visually seen. The Unseen Father is in Christs mind.

I can assure you there is no evidence on this earth that either of those charlatans ever existed. You are delusional.
 

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"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus Rev.21:5

Nothing on this earth has the power to defeat the finished work of the
Lord Jesus. "It is finished" said Jesus while on The Cross. Here are
the most powerful finished events in all of human history. No power
n the Universe can defeat these:

{1} The Cross -- the power of reconciliation, forgiveness, and restoration -- "being
justified by faith we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ" Romans 5:1

{2} The Resurrection -- the power of that Empty Tomb. He lives. He is alive.
He has conquered Death for us -- we now have eternal life.

{3} The Ascension -- the power of "I go to my Father" , , , "all authority in
Heaven and on earth has been give to me" Matthew 28:18

{4} The Exaltation -- the power of being now seated at the right hand of the
Almighty Sovereign God

The Bible is the true story of God and His Plan to set the world right again.

Yes , , ,
The Bible tells the true story of how God will Christianize the world and
successfully carry out His Son's Great Commission -- to go and make disciples
of all nations -- commanded at the very end of Matthew's gospel.

God is going to fix the world. The world is now broken -- but God is going to
fix it. Hope lives. Love conquers. Victory. The Cross wins the war for the world.
Evil is defeated. The Good wins. The world will be Christianized before the Lord
Jesus returns. The yeast of the gospel will make disciples of all the nations through
the supernatural power of the Holy Spirit who uses the plain simple gospel message
to regenerate the hearts of men and to enable them to believe in Jesus as their
Savior and then to understand the Bible, as the Holy Spirit begins the process
of creating the fruits of the Holy Spirit in their lives , , ,

Step one is John 3:3 -- you must be born again {regenerated}
Step two is John 3:16 -- you must believe in Jesus as your Savior
Step three is Galatians 5:22-23 -- you must allow the Holy Spirit
o produce these 8 qualities within your heart , , ,

Love
Joy
Forbearance
Kindness
Goodness
Faithfulness
Gentleness
Self-control

The Holy Spirit produces these 8 qualities in the hearts of humans.
This process is what finally fixes the world.

"I am making everything new"__The Lord Jesus

"And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling
place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them. They will be
his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God. ‘He will
wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be no more death’ or mourning
or crying or pain, for the old order of things has passed away.” Rev. 21:3-4

JAG
"Its finished....." Meaning His mission to fulfill the requirements of the Old Law was accomplished, with He being the perfect, sin free, blood sacrifice. The New Covenant did not come into existence until the death of Jesus......up until that time the conditions of the Old Law was still in effect. The thief on the cross went to Heaven because God (in person) forgave him of his sins. He was saved via the mercy of God, no one was worthy of salvation under the terms of the Old Law. Today to enter the kingdom of God...i.e., the Kingdom that Jesus constructed.....His Church you must follow the oracles of the New Testament Covenant.

Most importantly for salvation: One must love and defend the truth. Paul speaks of those who reject the truth, "they did not receive the love of truth, that they might be saved." -- 2 Thess. 2:10.

The Basic Tenets thereof. 1. You must "hear" the Word as that is where faith is constructed (Romans 10:17). No one can know what they must do to be saved if they don't read the Word of God. (no man can save you, all they can do is present the word of God to you for you to freely choose, its the duty of the one hearing the word to search the scriptures and see if what they are being told is true or not (Acts 17:11, John 5:39).

2. You must believe.....have faith that what is spoken and revealed in scripture is the true Word of God. Without faith....salvation is impossible. "He who believes and is baptized WILL BE SAVED; but he that does not believe is condemned." -- Mark 16:16 "But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he that comes to God must believe that He is........." -- Hebrews 11:6

3. You must repent......turn from your sinful ways. (Luke 13:3) God requires all men everywhere to repent (Acts 17:30)

4. You must confess Christ Jesus as savior in God's plan of salvation, confession is made unto salvation (Romans 10:10)

5. You must be baptized for the remission of sins. Jesus stated before ascending to Heaven, "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, BAPTIZING THEM IN THE NAME OF THE FATHER THE SON AND THE HOLY SPIRIT........." -- Matthew 28:19. At the first gospel sermon Peter stated, "......repent, and let everyone of you be baptized in the name of Jesus for the remission of sins..........." -- Acts 2:38. Its not WATER BAPTISM that is required? "Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have received the Holy Ghost as well as we?" (Acts 10:47). These men had already received the gift of the Holy Ghost....but still Water Baptism was required. Paul makes it even clearer, "And now why are you waiting? Arise and be baptized, and wash away your sins, calling on the name of the Lord." -- Act 22:16
Again, "For as many of you that have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ." -- Gal. 3:27

6. The race is never over while you are breathing, the Christian's sabbath comes after this race of life is over. "But he that endures to the end shall be saved." -- Matt. 24:13. Paul points out the same..........salvation is for those who finish the race (2 Tim. 4:7,8)
 

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I can assure you there is no evidence on this earth that either of those charlatans ever existed. You are delusional.

You talk like a devil who hates God's words. You are not wanting to bless anyone.​

James 3:10“Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.” Listen to what you sound like when you talk. There is no wisdom in your words.​

Proverbs 10:31“The mouth of the just bringeth forth wisdom: but the froward tongue shall be cut out.” King James Version (KJV) Better to repent than to have that happen to you.​

 

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