Roe v. Wade getting overturned!!

[NotfooledbyW]

NFBW230209-#7,241 • I support a woman’s freedom to end the development of a brainless human unwanted organism that is part of her body …….
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beagle9230211-#7,260 So you are for the unregulated/ignorant/unprotected sexual activity of humans,

NFBW: It could be a highly civilized conversation between “persons” such as we understand ourselves to be, with differing views on “personhood” beagle9 if you could cease dehumanizing me below your perfect Christian ethical ‘personhood at conception’ by dictating to me what “NFBW” is for and what “NFBW” is against.

I support a woman’s freedom of conscience (do you beagle9 ????? ) as long as her behavior does not cause harm, pain, injury or death to any other person. Relative to that, a person to me, as a very and wholly civilized rational theist, is defined as one who has passed the moment when it’s newly unique brain has physically developed while it was a fetus living and being situated inside the womb between conception and birth.

IN UTERO I made myself a BRAIN and only then did I NFBW become a person.

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What is ‘personhood’? The ethics question that needs a closer look in abortion debates
What is 'personhood'? The ethics question that needs a closer look in abortion debates Published: May 13, 2022 Nancy S. Jecker, University of Washington •••• Debate about abortion is a debate about rights – but whose?

NFBW: Why do you try to force the debate to the ‘value of Christianity being the only “civilized” state of mind’ for “persons” who succeeded in developing his or her functional brain in utero followed by live birth?

Will you answer that beagle9 ????

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[NotfooledbyW]

Will you answer that @beagle9 ????

Well will you beagle9 ?????

 

[beagle9]

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NFBW230209-#7,241 • I support a woman’s freedom to end the development of a brainless human unwanted organism that is part of her body …….
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beagle9230211-#7,260 So you are for the unregulated/ignorant/unprotected sexual activity of humans,

NFBW: It could be a highly civilized conversation between “persons” such as we understand ourselves to be, with differing views on “personhood” beagle9 if you could cease dehumanizing me below your perfect Christian ethical ‘personhood at conception’ by dictating to me what “NFBW” is for and what “NFBW” is against.

I support a woman’s freedom of conscience (do you beagle9 ????? ) as long as her behavior does not cause harm, pain, injury or death to any other person. Relative to that, a person to me, as a very and wholly civilized rational theist, is defined as one who has passed the moment when it’s newly unique brain has physically developed while it was a fetus living and being situated inside the womb between conception and birth.

IN UTERO I made myself a BRAIN and only then did I NFBW become a person.

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What is ‘personhood’? The ethics question that needs a closer look in abortion debates
What is 'personhood'? The ethics question that needs a closer look in abortion debates Published: May 13, 2022 Nancy S. Jecker, University of Washington •••• Debate about abortion is a debate about rights – but whose?

NFBW: Why do you try to force the debate to the ‘value of Christianity being the only “civilized” state of mind’ for “persons” who succeeded in developing his or her functional brain in utero followed by live birth?

Will you answer that beagle9 ????

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Why do you want us to be an uncivilized human race that disregards and disrespect our own mind's, bodie's, and soul's, especially when engaging in sexual activities that bring forth unintended consequences ?

Then when the consequences of our actions arrive, we as a supposed civilized human race somehow needs a "killing program" to step in to clean up the consequences of our reckless actions ???

If acting in a civilized human way, and educating ourselves in the ways of our biblical teachings, then we wouldn't need these killing program's and these drug programs in order to sustain ourselves as healthy minded humans in life.

This stuff is fact, but the leftist lie and deny to the point of endangering themselves, and endangering a society that is gullible and unaware until it's too late.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Why do you want us to be an uncivilized human race

I do not want us to be an uncivilized human race. You are bearing false witness against thy neighbor.

My belief on where the point of “personhood“ begins, has nothing to do with civilization or sexual morality. Your vision of a civilized human race is extremely irrational on top of the fact that you think it is the only way that humans must be.

You are wrong to impose the belief that a human fetus with no brain ever must have the same right to life protection as it’s mother.

All you do is preach preach preach against sin sin sin according to a belief system that you chose to follow according to your conscience.

We have freedom of conscience in this country and it’s time you learn to respect that. .

 

[NotfooledbyW]

This stuff is fact,

Bullshit. Facts need logic reason and must be based on objective reality that you refuse to discuss such as a fetus at 15 weeks does not have a brain that organizes its biological life. The mother’s brain is doing that for it.

THAT reality means nothing to you .

Terminating a brainless human life is not the same as terminating a life that exists outside the womb in a body organized by his or her own brain.

The latter is murder the former is not.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

C_Clayton_Jones said: Small government is also the state not interfering in citizens’ personal, private lives – such as whether to have a child or not.
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Cplus6230211-#20 • If an abortion is even possible, that means that ship has sailed, they’re a mother; they have a kid. •••• That private personal life bullshit you’re on about is whether or not they want to be a mother of a dead kid that they had killed.

NFBW: it looks like C+ believes all sailing ships belong to the government. Quite the socialist that CarsomyrPlusSix is.

Every single moment of human conception does not produce a “kid” . •••• Every “kid” is a human living organism managed by the “kid’s” own brain. Most of organs occurs 15 weeks worse earlier than that which means no one is killing a kid because everybody knows to be a kid you have to have your own brain.

 

[beagle9]

I do not want us to be an uncivilized human race. You are bearing false witness against thy neighbor.

My belief on where the point of “personhood“ begins, has nothing to do with civilization or sexual morality. Your vision of a civilized human race is extremely irrational on top of the fact that you think it is the only way that humans must be.

You are wrong to impose the belief that a human fetus with no brain ever must have the same right to life protection as it’s mother.

All you do is preach preach preach against sin sin sin according to a belief system that you chose to follow according to your conscience.

We have freedom of conscience in this country and it’s time you learn to respect that. .

You do promote an uncivilized SOCIETY, because you support abortion as a means to cover up sinful activities that lead to dramatic and what's worse are the tragic consequences born of it all in life. As if people don't already have enough problem's in life, hell you want to compile them even more.

 

[beagle9]

Bullshit. Facts need logic reason and must be based on objective reality that you refuse to discuss such as a fetus at 15 weeks does not have a brain that organizes its biological life. The mother’s brain is doing that for it.

THAT reality means nothing to you .

Terminating a brainless human life is not the same as terminating a life that exists outside the womb in a body organized by his or her own brain.

The latter is murder the former is not.

Still you promote in all of this, the very tools needed to create an uncivilized SOCIETY. You must be proud.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

NFBW230212-#7,265 • Terminating a brainless human life is not the same as terminating a life that exists outside the womb in a body organized by his or her own brain. •••• The latter is murder the former is not.
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beagle9230212-#7,268 Still you promote in all of this, the very tools needed to create an uncivilized SOCIETY. You must be proud.

NFBW: I consider the society we live in to be extremely civilized. Just because it is not Jesusified sufficient to suit your fancy beagle9 does not mean America is not civilized.

When a woman decides to terminate a living human organism inside her own body before it develops its own brain in a private operation, has zero effect on the growth or demise of civilization.

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[CarsomyrPlusSix]

Imagine this thing that is lower than pond scum “thinking” it has a brain.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Cplus6230213-#7,270 • Imagine this thing that is lower than pond scum “thinking” it has a brain.
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NFBW: Great song “IMAGINE” as in “imagine no religion” it’s easy if you try - nothing to kill and die for …….

Cplus6239107-#6,660 Words have meanings, retard.
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NFBW230108-#6,667 • Yes, viability is the meaningful word that defines when life begins for human beings in contemplation of secular law. It is a fact that biological human life begins at conception. And yes it is morally fit for a secular society to grant women who experience an unwanted pregnancy privacy time to decide to terminate their pregnancies before the fetus becomes viable.
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beagle9230108-#6,668 It's funny how you keep sparring with ding, and it appears that he's been done on this subject.

NFBW: Yes the functional use of words needs a brain and all human beings start with no brain and thus start with no words on the lifespan continuum experience. That is a fact, CarsomyrPlusSix , is it not?

I know it is a fact that I have a brain. I know it is a fact that Meriweather ding HeyNorm beagle9 and Cplus6 and etc etc etc all MAGA voters and all MAGA abusers have at one “easy to imagine“ MOMENT entered the stage of personhood moving on from having no brain to having a brain of their own.

Therefore when discerning secular law associated with abortion and the Dobbs decision the necessity is not that human beings each were born with a brain but necessity is that civilized human brains be used to discern truth based upon reason and facts. Yes and including imagining there is no religion to kill and die for - which for an atheists like CarsomyrPlusSix it should be easy enough to do; but alas C+ shows no interest in using his atheist brain and words for civilized debate about reproductive rights for women vs right to go on living women’s fetuses before the have a brain.

Sad really that abusing MAGA politics and dishonesty comes before imagining the civilized debate that we should be having on Dobbs.

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[NotfooledbyW]

beagle9230208-#7,229 beagle9 The framer's never, ever, figured that Americans would become as evil as they have become today. Fact.

Godboy220627-#104 Godboy You're delusional if you think the founding fathers would have supported abortion.

NFBW: does not appear to be one of your Jesus based FACTS beagle9

pknopp220627-#109 Abortion was frequently practiced in North America during the period from 1600 to 1900.
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Many tribal societies knew how to induce abortions. They used a variety of methods including the use of black root and cedar root as abortifacient agents. During the colonial period, the legality of abortion varied from colony to colony and reflected the attitude of the European country which controlled the specific colony.
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pknopp220627-#109 In the British colonies abortions were legal if they were performed prior to quickening.
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pknopp220627-#109 In the French colonies abortions were frequently performed despite the fact that they were considered to be illegal. In the Spanish and Portuguese colonies abortion was illegal. From 1776 until the mid-1800s abortion was viewed as socially unacceptable; however, abortions were not illegal in most states. During the 1860s a number of states passed anti-abortion laws. Most of these laws were ambiguous and difficult to enforce. After 1860 stronger anti-abortion laws were passed and these laws were more vigorously enforced. As a result, many women began to utilize illegal underground abortion services. Although abortion was legalized in 1970, many women are still forced to obtain illegal abortion or to perform self-abortions due to the economic constraints imposed by the Hyde Amendment and the unavailability of services in many areas.
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pknopp220627-#109 * Throughout the colonial period and during the early years of the republic, the abortion situation for slave women was different than for other women. Slaves were subject to the rules of their owners, and the owners refused to allow their slaves to terminate pregnancies. The owners wanted their slaves to produce as many children as possible since these children belonged to the slave owners. This situation persisted until the end of the slavery era.
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* pknopp is quoting the following
Abortion in early America - PubMed

 

[NotfooledbyW]

beagle9230212-#33 • It's reported news that is being fed to we the American people as to why we should be supporting anything about that area of the world.

beagle9230123-#6,870 Look, you can play your games till the sun goes down, but the bottom line is either we conduct ourselves as a civilized people or we act like an uncivilized people.

NFBW: I cannot see how beagle9 can be an authority on proper civilized behavior when she cannot see the similarities between Putin’s decision to Blitzkrieg Ukraine a year ago and Hitler’s decision to invade Poland over 80 years ago. Putin is committing barbaric mass slaughter and genocide in Ukraine. And moral people who saw Putin’s cowardly army launch his war of aggression and bombardment of cities to oblivion, killing civilians elderly, women and children indiscriminately do not need a news media to tell the that Putin is evil and has to be stopped.

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[NotfooledbyW]

LBT230213-#307 LordBrownTrout • I doubt that you would find one of the 70 million who have been killed in the womb who would enjoy being killed.

NFBW: Do you have any scientific evidence that this . . . .

. . . . . . brainless living human organism can know that it can die of natural abortion or induced abortion?

Can a living brainless human organism that has no language of the human mind know that it was either 1) shit out of luck bad DNA combo, or 2) some revealed religion creator god being who changed his mind about creating it, or 3) a human being born with a million of those round egg thingies (the one without the tail) as responsible for it’s death prior to live birth?

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[NotfooledbyW]

Cplus6230127-#6,921 • Eggboy over here is just the most disingenuous trash imaginable on a political debate forum, and he mixes it in with so much noise. He’s an infinite time sink of self-contradictions, blatant ignorance, disinformation, and other such bullshit.

NFBW: A fertilized egg except to C+


NFBW: Welcoming BlindBoo to the Brotherhood of Egg Boys not to be mistaken for the insurrectionists and Confederate canon fodder standing by, fighting for, and going to prison for Trump - Proud Boys.

Cplus6-230213-#286 CarsomyrPlusSix • There is no egg. •••• You speak 100% jibberish in bad faith. Nothing you say has any coherence or relevance.

BlindBoo230213-#303 BlindBoo You're a loonie. •••• A hate filled loonie. •••• You make me laugh.

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[NotfooledbyW]

Cplus6-230213-#286 • You cannot become a member of your species, as by existing as a living organism, you already are.

NFBW; I was a member of my species approximately 22 weeks before I had a brain. So, CarsomyrPlusSix again, what is your point?

Cplus6220905-#5,094 • The egg cell was a thing but is gone after fertilization.
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NFBW220905-#5,099 • So when the egg cell “thing” disappears because it’s been fertilized, so whatever it becomes does not have a brain, does it? if a lay person refers to the glop of cells that become part of the uterus as a fertilized egg what is the difference, a zygote, a blastocyst , an embryo does not have a brain. Yet you want me to believe that a brainless thing is a human being and a person. . You are being absurd.,

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[NotfooledbyW]

BackA230108-#678 BackAgain • A zygote and an embryo and a fetus all qualify as human life.

NFBW: A zygote and an embryo do not have a brain. A fetus develops a brain at some point reaching biological functionality when the two separate individual bodies (mother and child) can begin to live separate lives either together or apart from each other.,

The question unanswered by all MAGA abusers is if secular law requires the legally defined person to be granted a right to life to have it’s own self-organizing and self-operating brsin over the body of a new person as it’s coming into being as a child. Simply, Is a human life with no brain a person?

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[HeyNorm]

Imagine this thing that is lower than pond scum “thinking” it has a brain.

Correct, and 7 or 8 posts in a row? The dudes talking to himself.

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Correct, and 7 or 8 posts in a row? The dudes talking to himself.

And every post has valid points, universal truth and questioning that has obviously driven MAGA Vagina Police into hiding where a whole lotta MAGA circle jerking goes on.

 

[OhPleaseJustQuit]

Correct, and 7 or 8 posts in a row? The dudes talking to himself.

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It's common among the TDS crowd.

It's called pseudointellectual masturbation.

They are addicts.

They cannot possibly feel empowered unless they believe they are degrading someone else.

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