Mass roundups not high on priority list for INS

[Captain_Steel]

"Mass roundups are not that high on our priority list. That's not to say they'd never take place. The removal of criminal aliens — those folks who are here out of [legal] status and committed crimes on U.S. soil — is a national priority."

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2001976452_immigration10m.html

So they INS is conducting sweeps in eastern Washington, what for? Criminal aliens. Not just illegals, but illegals wanted for crimes. The rest of them are perfectly safe here in America. Noone will touch them.

Is this the way it should be? Should illegal aliens be overlooked? Should our laws regarding deportation be overlooked? How does it make you feel when everyday millions of illegals are overlooked, because their crimes are not on a priority list?

Will this country have to turn into a god damned turd world taco republic before we realize the problem?.....these questions I ponder.

 

[007]

Originally posted by Captain_Steel
Is this the way it should be? Should illegal aliens be overlooked? Should our laws regarding deportation be overlooked? How does it make you feel when everyday millions of illegals are overlooked, because their crimes are not on a priority list?

Will this country have to turn into a god damned turd world taco republic before we realize the problem?.....these questions I ponder.

It would appear that way steel. It baffles the shit out of me too. The only way I can explain it, is the politicians that DO have the power to do something about it are too busy whoring themselves out to the ever growing latino vote to go against them.

Fucking traitors. Everyone of them that does it. kerry was just doing it the other day, and our Prez has done it in the past. One huge thing that pisses me off about Bush. He's fucking lame on illegal immigration, and he lets mexico's Fox piss in his face and does nothing.

You bet your ass it's high time we do something. It's practically too late now... everyday we delay it gets worse... we better get busy.

 

[Captain_Steel]

It's getting to the point where you know that, with the way their groups are: LA RAZA, etc., it's going to get violent when we, either as a government, or just as a militia, try to take our country back.

I really believe that it will be bloody. Not that I want it to be. But I mean, how would you picture LA RAZA reacting if we actually started deported illegals by the busloads everyday without apology or explanation to the "latino community"? They'd be yelling and screaming like animals. They'd be protesting everywhere and disrupting society heinously. And it would get violent, I'm sure of it. But it would definately be a war that I'd be willing to fight.

In fact, I feel just as strong about this war as I do about the war on terror. Unfortunately, we all know which gets the major media coverage.

 

[Captain_Steel]

check out the indignant Mexican Presidents and their disapproval of us enforcing our laws....http://www.americanpatrol.com/04-FEATURES/040619-FOX-MOUTHS-OFF/040619_Feature.html

And from what I understand, Mexico's southern border is heavily armed with troops that will shoot on sight, that Mexico's immigration policy is one of the strictest in the world, and that they themselves have absolutely no problem deporting their unwanted illegals.

Hypocrisy...my biggest pet peave.

 

[OCA]

There will be no shooting war over illegal immigration, mark my words. Very few people even get worked up over it, they just don't give a shit, there are bigger fish to fry.

 

[Big D]

Originally posted by OCA
There will be no shooting war over illegal immigration, mark my words. Very few people even get worked up over it, they just don't give a shit, there are bigger fish to fry.

It is clearly not a non issue, it is a issue that people like yourself are afraid to address.

Maybe you could point out some of these " bigger fish to fry" so we could better understand you?

 

[jon_forward]

there have been "Illegal Aliens" in this country from day one. The vast majority due work that us Americans deem below us. Who picks our fruit and veggies? who takes the low paying menial jobs that pay minimum wage that even high school kids wont touch? They arent forced to take these jobs, they WANT THEM! would you like to try and make it on, say, 240 a week??? I didnt think so. So till you are ready to fill all these UNWANTED jobs, (with whom I have no Idea) why not worry about something important . I bet the Mexican army would shoot me for being in their country, riiiiggghhhhttttt. They would probably think I had a mental problem but let me on my way.

 

[007]

Originally posted by jon_forward
there have been "Illegal Aliens" in this country from day one. The vast majority due work that us Americans deem below us. Who picks our fruit and veggies? who takes the low paying menial jobs that pay minimum wage that even high school kids wont touch? They arent forced to take these jobs, they WANT THEM! would you like to try and make it on, say, 240 a week??? I didnt think so. So till you are ready to fill all these UNWANTED jobs, (with whom I have no Idea) why not worry about something important . I bet the Mexican army would shoot me for being in their country, riiiiggghhhhttttt. They would probably think I had a mental problem but let me on my way.

Bullshit. The wetback problem here in Arizona is growing, and not at a linear rate. It's growing like a cancer, getting worse by the day. The present numbers of wetbacks here should scare the dog shit out of you right now if you had half a brain, and it's getting worse. Much WORSE! We better deal with it and fucking soon!

Pick our vegetables. Fuck the vegetables. If you have to pay someone here "legaly" to pick them a little more, then do it, I don't give a fuck if I have to pay another 20 cents a head at the store. It'd be worth it to have my country's border and immigration under control.

 

[jon_forward]

Originally posted by Pale Rider
Bullshit. The wetback problem here in Arizona is growing, and not at a linear rate. It's growing like a cancer, getting worse by the day. The present numbers of wetbacks here should scare the dog shit out of you right now if you had half a brain, and it's getting worse. Much WORSE! We better deal with it and fucking soon!

Pick our vegetables. Fuck the vegetables. If you have to pay someone here "legaly" to pick them a little more, then do it, I don't give a fuck if I have to pay another 20 cents a head at the store. It'd be worth it to have my country's border and immigration under control.

#1. Immigrants dont scare nothing out of me. I have nothing to fear from them. are you so un-educated that they are threating your employment? I believe it is you that is lacking in the Brain department.

#2. what you do with your veggies in the privacy of your home is YOUR business just please wash em before you eat em.

#3.You dont seem to get it do you. most Americans WONT work 16 hour days in the sun, without a restroom,ect,ect, ect..no matter what you offer to pay them. the only ones that will do the labor are the immigrants. No one picks the fruit or veggies, the stores cant sell em, we cant buy em the farmers go under and that would make us just that much more dependent on other nations. DUH......I think the dumbass moniker fits pretty well...act like one and be called one.

 

[007]

Originally posted by jon_forward
#1. Immigrants dont scare nothing out of me. I have nothing to fear from them. are you so un-educated that they are threating your employment? I believe it is you that is lacking in the Brain department.

#2. what you do with your veggies in the privacy of your home is YOUR business just please wash em before you eat em.

#3.You dont seem to get it do you. most Americans WONT work 16 hour days in the sun, without a restroom,ect,ect, ect..no matter what you offer to pay them. the only ones that will do the labor are the immigrants. No one picks the fruit or veggies, the stores cant sell em, we cant buy em the farmers go under and that would make us just that much more dependent on other nations. DUH......I think the dumbass moniker fits pretty well...act like one and be called one.

And you're just the kind of ignorant moron that would GIVE his country away by keeping his head buried up his ass. You appear to STUPID to be scared. Still in high school?

YOU'RE the one who DOESN'T GET IT you lame brain. Illegals COST America, they are NOT doing us any GOOD!

Read this and get some knowledge asswipe...



The Costs of Illegal Immigration to Arizonans - Executive Summary


Executive Summary
Analysis of the latest Census data indicates that Arizona’s illegal immigrant population is costing the state’s taxpayers about $1.3 billion per year for education, medical care and incarceration. Even if the estimated tax contributions of illegal immigrant workers are subtracted, net outlays still amount to about $1.3 billion per year. The annual fiscal burden borne by Arizonans amounts to more than $700 per household headed by a native-born resident.

This analysis looks specifically at the costs of education, health care and incarceration because they represent the largest cost areas and because a 1994 study conducted by the Urban Institute, which also examined these same costs, provides a useful baseline for comparison ten years later. Other studies have been conducted in the interim, showing trends that support the conclusions of this report.

As this report will note, other significant costs associated with illegal immigration exist and should be taken into account by federal and state officials. But even without accounting for all of the multitude of areas in which costs are being incurred by Arizona taxpayers, the programs analyzed in this study indicate that the burden is substantial and that the costs are rapidly increasing.

The $1.3 billion in costs incurred by Arizona taxpayers is comprised of outlays in the following areas:

Education. Based on estimates of the illegal immigrant population in Arizona and documented costs of K-12 schooling, Arizonans spend approximately $820 million annually on education for illegal immigrant children and for their U.S.-born siblings.
Health Care. Uncom-pensated medical outlays for health care provided to the state’s illegal alien population is now estimated at about $400 million a year.
Incarceration. The cost of incarcerating illegal aliens in Arizona prisons and jails amounts to about $80 million a year (not including the monetary costs of the crimes that led to their incarceration).
The unauthorized immigrant population pays some state and local taxes that go toward offsetting these costs, but they do not come near to matching the expenses. The total of such payments might generously be estimated at $257 million per year.

The fiscal costs of illegal immigration do not end with these three major cost items. The total costs of illegal immigration to the state’s taxpayers would be considerably higher if other costs such as special English instruction, school nutrition programs, or welfare benefits for American workers displaced by illegal alien workers were added into the equation.

http://www.fairus.org/ImmigrationIssueCenters/ImmigrationIssueCenters.cfm?ID=2440&c=13

 

[OCA]

Farmers work on very small margins, they could not afford to pay non-Mexicans more(not that anybody else would do that kind of work, no they'd flip burgers at BK). Truth is without Hispanic workers this country, at least the agricultural part, will go into the shitter.

I have a friend who builds custom homes for a living, he hires Mexicans alot because he says they will work 24 hrs 7 days a week if you let them without asking for extra bullshit like non-Mexican workers, and they do a damn good job.

Big D

As for the bigger fish to fry ever heard of the WOT? Maybe the economy? Taxes? No I guess you haven't.

 

[007]

Originally posted by OCA
Farmers work on very small margins, they could not afford to pay non-Mexicans more(not that anybody else would do that kind of work, no they'd flip burgers at BK). Truth is without Hispanic workers this country, at least the agricultural part, will go into the shitter.

I have a friend who builds custom homes for a living, he hires Mexicans alot because he says they will work 24 hrs 7 days a week if you let them without asking for extra bullshit like non-Mexican workers, and they do a damn good job.

Big D

As for the bigger fish to fry ever heard of the WOT? Maybe the economy? Taxes? No I guess you haven't.

Thing is OCA, we could deport every stinking wetback in our country, and there'd STILL be plenty of WILLING mexicans to work the fields. That's not a problem.

 

[OCA]

Pale here is the reality man and even I don't think its right, the Hispanic vote is fucking HUGE in this country, especially in your neck of the woods and it would be political suicide for any politician to come out publicly for a mass deportation. Not saying its right, its just the way it is.

Also the shooting illegals as they cross, uh uh never happen. The pres. would get fucking inpeached and then hung on the east lawn not by only liberals here but internationally as well. A month or so ago I mentioned to Pegwinn that my brother when he was in the Corps had told me once he got sent to the border, so I asked him about it again a couple weeks ago and he told me that basically there were 200 marines stretched from Texas to California and they were not allowed engagement, they reported sightings into the INS and then dissappeared into the brush because technically there presence there is considered marshall law, which for some reason is a big no no. So putting the military there and shooting illegals will 99.9% likely never happen.

 

[jon_forward]

Pale Rider....I attemted to separate the Illegals from the legals but I guess you cant understand that. In the previous post ALL Hispanics were dis'ed not just the Illegals. That makes what you post a decidedly RACIST view dont ya think? as for me being an asswipe....let me know when you are out of diapers.

and as for this statement.... and there'd STILL be plenty of WILLING mexicans to work the fields. as quoted by pale rider....

once you are a citizen of the USA, you are an American reguardless of whenceforth you came.

 

[Big D]

Originally posted by jon_forward
there'd STILL be plenty of WILLING mexicans to work the fields.

Their are far more illegal aliens in prison or on welfare then there is working in any field.

"Illegal aliens are NOT necessarily coming here to work. Lou Dobbs recently reported that 33 percent of our prison population is now comprised of non-citizens. Plus, 36 to 42 percent of illegal aliens are on welfare. So, for a good proportion of these people, the American dream is crime and welfare, not coming here to work"

 

[007]

Originally posted by jon_forward
Pale Rider....I attemted to separate the Illegals from the legals but I guess you cant understand that. In the previous post ALL Hispanics were dis'ed not just the Illegals. That makes what you post a decidedly RACIST view dont ya think? as for me being an asswipe....let me know when you are out of diapers.

and as for this statement.... and there'd STILL be plenty of WILLING mexicans to work the fields. as quoted by pale rider....

once you are a citizen of the USA, you are an American reguardless of whenceforth you came.

Your distinction was NOT clearly made, but you telling me I lacked something in the "brain department" wasn't. So don't act all offended by me calling you an asswipe. You asked for it.

Racist..... that word is thrown around so much that it's practically lost all it's zeal. Too many people like yourself use it and not know what the fuck they're talking about at all. You cheapen the word so that when it IS appropriate to use, it don't mean shit.

Try again... something different. You liberals have WORN OUT "racitst" on people that don't deserve it.

 

[DKSuddeth]

Originally posted by Pale Rider
Try again... something different. You liberals have WORN OUT "racitst" on people that don't deserve it.

I do believe thats the first time I've ever seen jon forward called a liberal. :cof:

 

[brneyedgrl80]

Though I may not necessarily agree with what everyone has posted, could the word wetback please, please, please not be used? With sugar on top? I really hate that word. For me it's right up there with the "n" word.

I think there should be stronger enforcement as far as making sure people go through the proper procedures to become citizens no matter where they are from, but as far as mass deportations. That is a very sensitive procedure. Tearing families apart and such and also wrongful deportation and stuff. It would also be a unfair to stop anybody who looks like a mexican and ask for ID. That would be like Nazi Germany stopping anyone who didn't look German, it would be unlawful to do that. It's a very delicate thing. Maybe the best thing to do is just focus on everyone who is here already and get them to become citizens and work on the future immigrants getting their citizenship.

 

[phadras]

They are here illegally, get it, ILLEGALLY.. I personally would like to punch that arrogant bastard Vicente Fox right in the ole kisser,,

It's his problem the economy of Mexico is pathetic.. It's his problem that his people leave Mexico... That fucker ought to have been forceable deported immediately after those statements in Chicago.. Fuck Mexico.... They are damn near communists, and are socialists which is why their economy is in the shitter.....

 

[jon_forward]

Originally posted by Pale Rider
Your distinction was NOT clearly made, but you telling me I lacked something in the "brain department" wasn't. So don't act all offended by me calling you an asswipe. You asked for it.

Racist..... that word is thrown around so much that it's practically lost all it's zeal. Too many people like yourself use it and not know what the fuck they're talking about at all. You cheapen the word so that when it IS appropriate to use, it don't mean shit.

Try again... something different. You liberals have WORN OUT "racitst" on people that don't deserve it.

I'm a lib????? HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE........
Do I win anything Dk?

as for the distinction, it dont get no clearer. try reading slower or try to read ALL the post not just scimming.