GOP Rep who Screamed at Biden about Military Members on Tuesday, votes on Thursday against helping Military Members

[PinktheFloyd88]

House approves bill to help veterans exposed to 'burn pits'​

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi discussed the bill that would boost health care services and disability benefits for veterans exposed to toxic burn pits in Iraq and Afghanistan.​

Republican sweetheart Lauren Boebert screamed at Biden about servicemembers not being important on Tuesday night at the SOTU address. She voted "no" today for helping servicemembers who suffer from burn pit illnesses in Iraq and Afghanistan. What are your thoughts on this?

 

[jwoodie]

House approves bill to help veterans exposed to 'burn pits'​

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi discussed the bill that would boost health care services and disability benefits for veterans exposed to toxic burn pits in Iraq and Afghanistan.​

Republican sweetheart Lauren Boebert screamed at Biden about servicemembers not being important on Tuesday night at the SOTU address. She voted "no" today for helping servicemembers who suffer from burn pit illnesses in Iraq and Afghanistan. What are your thoughts on this?

My thoughts are that you don't read beyond the headlines.

 

[Vrenn]

My thoughts are that you don't read beyond the headlines.

Two years ago, I developed twin Cataracs. One was worse than the other. Rump allowed the out patient Veteran Exec Order to expire. The VA had no one on staff to do the procedure. Had I not had other means (Medicare and Tricare) I would have become legally blind before the procedure would have been available through the VA. Obama reintroduced that Exec Order. Even so, it would have been 6 months before the first eye could be done. I would have been legally blind in 2. I was already legally blind in my left eye. Instead, I used my other payment methods and got it done in a month for both eyes. Funny, it was by the same doctor that the VA would have used.

We have to keep a vigilant watch on the Veterans Health. It should be part of the cost of defending this nation. But I guess it's more important to tear it to the ground instead.

 

[ClaireH]

My thoughts are that you don't read beyond the headlines.

This bill is duplicating ineffective services which seems to be a current administration tactic to double up instead of correcting the agency in charge. This is one of the stated reasons that many voted against it. It has little to do with increasing veteran help from my understanding (but I didn't read the bill) but read pro versus con takes including a few congressmen's. My congressman is a strong supporter of the military who voted against this bill. His concern is how much of this money will actually go directly to the veterans instead of being used for other Dem projects. Now that's a problem if accurate.

Meant to add: Biden took out Trump's pro-vet measure...Biden x-ed it and now wants to turn around again with duplicating it. Shocker.

 

[whitehall]

The republican congresswoman's outburst during the Biden SOU speech was a spontaneous and legitimate reaction. The allegation that she is against Veterans because she questioned support for a strange bill that included poop fires in the V.A. benefits package doesn't make her a bad person.

 

[Auld Phart]

Two years ago, I developed twin Cataracs. One was worse than the other. Rump allowed the out patient Veteran Exec Order to expire. The VA had no one on staff to do the procedure. Had I not had other means (Medicare and Tricare) I would have become legally blind before the procedure would have been available through the VA. Obama reintroduced that Exec Order. Even so, it would have been 6 months before the first eye could be done. I would have been legally blind in 2. I was already legally blind in my left eye. Instead, I used my other payment methods and got it done in a month for both eyes. Funny, it was by the same doctor that the VA would have used.

We have to keep a vigilant watch on the Veterans Health. It should be part of the cost of defending this nation. But I guess it's more important to tear it to the ground instead.

Rump allowed the out patient Veteran Exec Order to expire.

Obama reintroduced that Exec Order.

I thought Obama was president before Trump.


Get your timeline backwards?

 

[odanny]

Republican sweetheart Lauren Boebert screamed at Biden about servicemembers not being important on Tuesday night at the SOTU address. She voted "no" today for helping servicemembers who suffer from burn pit illnesses in Iraq and Afghanistan. What are your thoughts on this?

She is an evil, lying Republican, like 80-90% of that party.

 

[PinktheFloyd88]

I literally posted an article link and a Twitter post and asked for thoughts. I have no idea why this is being downvoted, but okay.

I thought Obama was president before Trump.


Get your timeline backwards?

At least he is participating, and not just downvoting my topic.

 

[22lcidw]

She is an evil, lying Republican, like 80-90% of that party.

She does not need a wall surrounding her for safety by her own.

 

[Vrenn]

This bill is duplicating ineffective services which seems to be a current administration tactic to double up instead of correcting the agency in charge. This is one of the stated reasons that many voted against it. It has little to do with increasing veteran help from my understanding (but I didn't read the bill) but read pro versus con takes including a few congressmen's. My congressman is a strong supporter of the military who voted against this bill. His concern is how much of this money will actually go directly to the veterans instead of being used for other Dem projects. Now that's a problem if accurate.

Meant to add: Biden took out Trump's pro-vet measure...Biden x-ed it and now wants to turn around again with duplicating it. Shocker.

Of course you haven't. I can tell by the way you are already condemning it when it's still in the very infant planning stage. Here is the entire bill. that is in the House. It's not been presented to the Housed nor the President as it's just barely been started. Note the date of 02/02/2022. Now, tell me how there can be over 170 congress critters that have voted against it if it's only been presented to the senate where only 50 Republicans "Might" vote against it. But even they can't vote on it yet since it's in committee being written and is not ready for presentation to the floor.

Text - S.3603 - 117th Congress (2021-2022): Veterans Health Care Freedom Act

[Congressional Bills 117th Congress]
[From the U.S. Government Publishing Office]
[S. 3603 Introduced in Senate (IS)]

<DOC>






117th CONGRESS
2d Session
S. 3603

To direct the Secretary of Veterans Affairs to carry out a pilot
program to improve the ability of veterans to access medical care in
medical facilities of the Department of Veterans Affairs and in the
community by providing veterans the ability to choose health care
providers.


_______________________________________________________________________


IN THE SENATE OF THE UNITED STATES

February 8 (legislative day, February 3), 2022

Mrs. Blackburn (for herself and Mr. Tuberville) introduced the
following bill; which was read twice and referred to the Committee on
Veterans' Affairs

_______________________________________________________________________

A BILL



To direct the Secretary of Veterans Affairs to carry out a pilot
program to improve the ability of veterans to access medical care in
medical facilities of the Department of Veterans Affairs and in the
community by providing veterans the ability to choose health care
providers.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the ``Veterans Health Care Freedom Act''.

SEC. 2. PILOT PROGRAM ON ABILITY OF VETERANS TO CHOOSE HEALTH CARE
PROVIDERS.

(a) Pilot Program.--
(1) Requirement.--The Secretary of Veterans Affairs, acting
through the Center for Innovation for Care and Payment of the
Department of Veterans Affairs, shall carry out a pilot program
to improve the ability of eligible veterans to access hospital
care, medical services, and extended care services through the
covered care system by providing eligible veterans the ability
to choose health care providers.
(2) Locations.--The Secretary shall select a minimum of
four Veterans Integrated Service Networks in which to carry out
the pilot program.
(b) Removal of Certain Requirements To Access Care.--In carrying
out the pilot program, the Secretary shall furnish hospital care,
medical services, and extended care services to eligible veterans
through the covered care system as follows:
(1) At medical facilities of the Department of Veterans
Affairs, regardless of whether the facility is in the same
Veterans Integrated Service Network as the Network in which the
veteran resides.
(2) At non-Department facilities pursuant to, as
appropriate--
(A) section 1703 of title 38, United States Code,
without regard to the requirements specified in
subsection (d) of such section; or
(B) section 1703A of such title, without regard to
whether the care or service is not feasibly available
to the eligible veteran from a facility of the
Department or through a contract or sharing agreement
entered into pursuant to a provision of law other than
such section as required under subparagraphs (A) and
(C) of subsection (a)(1) of such section.
(c) Election of Veteran.--In accordance with subsections (d) and
(e), an eligible veteran participating in the pilot program may elect
to receive hospital care, medical services, and extended care services
at any provider in the covered care system.
(d) Coordination of Care.--
(1) Selection.--Each eligible veteran participating in the
pilot program shall select a primary care provider in the
covered care system.
(2) Coordination.--The primary care provider of an eligible
veteran selected under paragraph (1) shall--
(A) coordinate with the Secretary and other health
care providers the hospital care, medical services, and
extended care services furnished to the veteran under
the pilot program; and
(B) refer the veteran to specialty care providers
in the covered care system, as clinically necessary.
(3) Systems.--The Secretary shall establish systems as the
Secretary determines appropriate to ensure that a primary care
provider can effectively coordinate the hospital care, medical
services, and extended care services furnished to a veteran
under the pilot program.
(e) Specialty Care.--
(1) Access.--Subject to subsection (d)(2)(B), an eligible
veteran participating in the pilot program may select any
specialty care provider in the covered care system from which
to receive specialty care.
(2) Designation.--The Secretary may designate a specialty
care provider as a primary care provider of an eligible veteran
participating in the pilot program if the Secretary determines
that such designation is in the health interests of the veteran
(such as an endocrinologist with respect to a veteran diagnosed
with diabetes, a neurologist with respect to a veteran
diagnosed with Parkinson's disease, or an obstetrician-
gynecologist with respect to a female veteran).
(f) Mental Health Care.--An eligible veteran participating in the
pilot program may select a mental health care provider in the covered
care system from which to receive mental health care.
(g) Information.--In carrying out the pilot program, the Secretary
shall furnish to eligible veterans the information on eligibility, cost
sharing, treatments, and providers required for veterans to make
informed decisions with respect to--
(1) selecting primary care providers and specialty care
providers; and
(2) treatments available to the veteran.
(h) Duration.--
(1) Phase in.--The Secretary shall carry out the pilot
program during the three-year period beginning on the date that
is one year after the date of the enactment of this Act.
(2) Permanent requirement.--
(A) Veterans community care program.--Section
1703(d) of title 38, United States Code, is amended--
(i) in paragraph (1), by striking ``The
Secretary shall'' and inserting ``Except as
provided by paragraph (4), the Secretary
shall''; and
(ii) by adding at the end the following new
paragraph:
``(4) Beginning on the date that is four years after the date of
the enactment of the Veterans Health Care Freedom Act--
``(A) the requirements under paragraphs (1), (2), and (3)
shall not apply with respect to furnishing hospital care,
medical services, and extended care services to a covered
veteran under this section; and
``(B) the Secretary shall furnish hospital care, medical
services, and extended care services to a covered veteran under
this section with the same conditions on the ability of the
veteran to choose health care providers as specified in the
pilot program described in section 2 of such Act.''.
(B) Veterans care agreements.--Section 1703A(a)(1)
of such title is amended--
(i) in subparagraph (C), by striking ``For
purposes'' and inserting ``Except as provided
by subparagraph (E), for purposes''; and
(ii) by adding at the end the following new
subparagraph:
``(E) Beginning on the date that is four years after the date of
the enactment of the Veterans Health Care Freedom Act--
``(i) the requirement under subparagraph (A) and (C) that
care or services may only be furnished under this section to
covered individuals when such care or services are not feasibly
available to the covered individual from a facility of the
Department or through a contract or sharing agreement entered
into pursuant to a provision of law other than this section
shall not apply with respect to furnishing hospital care,
medical services, and extended care services to a covered
individual under this section; and
``(ii) the Secretary shall furnish hospital care, medical
services, and extended care services to a covered individual
under this section with the same conditions on the ability of
the individual to choose health care providers as specified in
the pilot program described in section 2 of such Act.''.
(C) VISNs.--Beginning on the date that is four
years after the date of the enactment of this Act, the
Secretary shall furnish hospital care, medical
services, and extended care services to veterans under
chapter 17 of title 38, United States Code, at medical
facilities of the Department of Veterans Affairs,
regardless of whether the facility is in the same
Veterans Integrated Service Network as the Network in
which the veteran resides.
(i) Reports.--
(1) Implementation.--
(A) In general.--On a quarterly basis during the
two-year period beginning on the date of the enactment
of this Act, the Secretary shall submit to the
Committee on Veterans' Affairs of the Senate and the
Committee on Veterans' Affairs of the House of
Representatives a report on the implementation of the
pilot program.
(B) Final design.--One of the reports required
under subparagraph (A) shall contain a description of
the final design of the pilot program.
(2) Annual.--On an annual basis during the period beginning
on the date that is one year after the date of the submission
of the final report under paragraph (1) and ending on the date
of the conclusion of the pilot program, the Secretary shall
submit to the Committee on Veterans' Affairs of the Senate and
the Committee on Veterans' Affairs of the House of
Representatives a report on the results of the pilot program.
(j) Regulations.--The Secretary, in consultation with the Committee
on Veterans' Affairs of the Senate and the Committee on Veterans'
Affairs of the House of Representatives, may prescribe regulations to
carry out this section.
(k) No Additional Appropriations.--No additional funds are
authorized to be appropriated to carry out this section and the
amendments made by this section, and this section and the amendments
made by this section shall be carried out using amounts otherwise made
available to the Veterans Health Administration.
(l) Definitions.--In this section:
(1) Covered care system.--The term ``covered care system''
means each--
(A) medical facility of the Department;
(B) health care provider specified in subsection
1703(c) of title 38, United States Code; and
(C) eligible entity or provider that has entered
into a Veterans Care Agreement under section 1703A of
such title.
(2) Eligible veteran.--The term ``eligible veteran'' means
a veteran who is enrolled in the patient enrollment system of
the Department of Veterans Affairs under section 1705 of title
38, United States Code.
(3) Hospital care; medical services; non-department
facilities.--The terms ``hospital care'', ``medical services'',
and ``non-Department facilities'' have the meanings given those
terms in section 1701 of title 38, United States Code.
<all>

 

[Vrenn]

I literally posted an article link and a Twitter post and asked for thoughts. I have no idea why this is being downvoted, but okay.

At least he is participating, and not just downvoting my topic.

It's not. It's being written and discussed in a committee in the senate only.

 

[PinktheFloyd88]

Thank you Vrenn, very cool of you to post it here.

 

[Vrenn]

The republican congresswoman's outburst during the Biden SOU speech was a spontaneous and legitimate reaction. The allegation that she is against Veterans because she questioned support for a strange bill that included poop fires in the V.A. benefits package doesn't make her a bad person.

Oh, you can trust me on this one. Boebert is a real piece of work. And always has been. She's part of the Rump Brigade that has since moved out of the Republican Party around here.

 

[Vrenn]

I thought Obama was president before Trump.


Get your timeline backwards?

Obama reinstated the exec order that Bush Jr started. Rump ignored it and allowed it to run out. There was a lot of pressured and 2 months later, Rump reinstated it and made a huge fanfare about how wonderful he was when he "Invented" it. The real hero here is Bush Jr. The real Villain is Rump.

 

[22lcidw]

Oh, you can trust me on this one. Boebert is a real piece of work. And always has been. She's part of the Rump Brigade that has since moved out of the Republican Party around here.

As long as he gets down and dirty like Progs. How about eating pork rinds in front of the Islamic congressperson just as an example. It will be a stage. Not unlike a prog stage. These lady Repub congress people are great. Watching the Progs kneel with the defund the police movement and now hearing the greatest liar and ph uk politician in history saying we support the police is the ultimate in a totalitarian state. Hopefully a hundred more get elected in November. Loud and obnoxious.

 

[ClaireH]

The following link (although the site has more pro-Dem members than other political parties, sheds light about why people voted against it.

Should the VA’s Process for Covering Veterans’ Exposure to Toxic Substances be Streamlined? (H.R. 3967)

Bill Status The House passed this bill with a vote of 256-174 on 3/3/22. What is H.R. 3967? (Updated March 20, 2022) This bill,

www.causes.com

Full understanding goes beyond the words of the bill btw. Where will these funds really go remains a question. A great sounding package doesn't always reach its destination.

 

[Vrenn]

As long as he gets down and dirty like Progs. How about eating pork rinds in front of the Islamic congressperson just as an example. It will be a stage. Not unlike a prog stage. These lady Repub congress people are great. Watching the Progs kneel with the defund the police movement and now hearing the greatest liar and ph uk politician in history saying we support the police is the ultimate in a totalitarian state. Hopefully a hundred more get elected in November. Loud and obnoxious.

Hey, be careful. You'll just give Boebert and her clan ideas of what they can do to go even further off the Rez. And there are already 147 rump humpers in congress that fit your criteria. We really don't want Beobert back but we won't have a choice. I guess she can go back to rolling drunks in the alley behind her bar in Rifle.

 

[Auld Phart]

Obama reinstated the exec order that Bush Jr started. Rump ignored it and allowed it to run out. There was a lot of pressured and 2 months later, Rump reinstated it and made a huge fanfare about how wonderful he was when he "Invented" it. The real hero here is Bush Jr. The real Villain is Rump.

The real Villain is Rump.

Of course

 

[Auld Phart]

Hey, be careful. You'll just give Boebert and her clan ideas of what they can do to go even further off the Rez. And there are already 147 rump humpers in congress that fit your criteria. We really don't want Beobert back but we won't have a choice. I guess she can go back to rolling drunks in the alley behind her bar in Rifle.

Why do I get the impression you haven't started puberty yet?

 

[22lcidw]

Hey, be careful. You'll just give Boebert and her clan ideas of what they can do to go even further off the Rez. And there are already 147 rump humpers in congress that fit your criteria. We really don't want Beobert back but we won't have a choice. I guess she can go back to rolling drunks in the alley behind her bar in Rifle.

We want the loud Maxine Walters types. Nothing less. And Maxine threatened to kill people. So, we know that is the minimum level of the Prog bar. Maxine on the financial committee with the bankers....bwhahhaa! Di you ever see her asking questions and making demands? It's like a special needs child talking to Einstein's.