Will people's attitude of healthcare change with the killing of that CEO?

[frigidweirdo]

Here's a video from occupy healthcare that I was watching, if you want their take on the problem of private healthcare.
Here's my view.

1) The US federal government spends about the same, or more, per capita than the UK government does for the NHS.

2) On top of this most Americans are then forced to buy themselves healthcare. This amounts to about 50% of all spending.

3) Something like 15% of the money that people pay for health insurance goes to the health insurance company. So, in the UK without health insurance companies, for the most part, they don't need to spend 7.5% on something that is completely unnecessary.

4) On top of the 15%, a lot of money is spent on unnecessary things, like over prescription of drugs, of using the more expensive drugs, of not trying to get the price of drugs down, of doctors taking a cut for proscribing certain types of drugs, of hospitals overcharging for all kinds of things.

5) The level of corruption is HUGE:

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/msparrow/files/corruption_in_health_care-the_us_experience-ti_global_report_on_corruption-2006-pp16-22.pdf

"in 1993, Attorney General Janet Reno declared it America’s‘number two crime problem’, second only to violent crime."

In the video at the top, the presenter points to the Senate and the Biden administration trying to go after corruption, and Trump... will probably not, because Trump doesn't give a fuck whether you get treated or not. Only that his buddies make their money. We'll see if he drops these investigations.

6) How much is the fraud? Well, healthcare amounts to 15% of the US GDP, and it seems like the US spend a lot more than anyone else, and a lot of people aren't getting proper coverage. In an article about this from maybe 20 years ago they estimated corruption to be about 20%-30%.

Will anything change because people have seen a need to attack this guy? he got killed, but very few people have any sympathy for him, as he's ruined countless lives.

 

[1srelluc]

Police:
Have you seen this man?

The whole world:

Nah, never seen him before.

Murdered Insurance CEO Had Deployed an AI to Automatically Deny Benefits for Sick People

Before United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson was murdered, a lawsuit filed against the firm revealed just how bad its claims-denying was.

futurism.com

 

[1srelluc]

I heard the reward is up to 50K.

Blah, they’ll just deny the claim for the reward check as soon as he’s booked into custody.

 

[tyroneweaver]

Here's a video from occupy healthcare that I was watching, if you want their take on the problem of private healthcare.
Here's my view.

1) The US federal government spends about the same, or more, per capita than the UK government does for the NHS.

2) On top of this most Americans are then forced to buy themselves healthcare. This amounts to about 50% of all spending.

3) Something like 15% of the money that people pay for health insurance goes to the health insurance company. So, in the UK without health insurance companies, for the most part, they don't need to spend 7.5% on something that is completely unnecessary.

4) On top of the 15%, a lot of money is spent on unnecessary things, like over prescription of drugs, of using the more expensive drugs, of not trying to get the price of drugs down, of doctors taking a cut for proscribing certain types of drugs, of hospitals overcharging for all kinds of things.

5) The level of corruption is HUGE:

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/msparrow/files/corruption_in_health_care-the_us_experience-ti_global_report_on_corruption-2006-pp16-22.pdf

"in 1993, Attorney General Janet Reno declared it America’s‘number two crime problem’, second only to violent crime."

In the video at the top, the presenter points to the Senate and the Biden administration trying to go after corruption, and Trump... will probably not, because Trump doesn't give a fuck whether you get treated or not. Only that his buddies make their money. We'll see if he drops these investigations.

6) How much is the fraud? Well, healthcare amounts to 15% of the US GDP, and it seems like the US spend a lot more than anyone else, and a lot of people aren't getting proper coverage. In an article about this from maybe 20 years ago they estimated corruption to be about 20%-30%.

Will anything change because people have seen a need to attack this guy? he got killed, but very few people have any sympathy for him, as he's ruined countless lives.

insurance rates took a gigantic rate increase under biden and harris, and you go off on a tangent looking into some crystal ball about trup
It's these predictions with no fullfillment of prophecy is why you lost the election. These massive rates have come under hiden harris. deal with it chump

 

[Polishprince]

Actually, there is a booming health insurance industry in the UK.

Brits who care about their health go to private sector doctors and hospitals that expect to receive the coin of the realm in consideration for their services.

Skinflint British subjects who decide to go to NHS docs wait months if not years for anything and its done by doctors with no motivation.

So when British subject Mick Jagger needed complicated heart surgery, he came to America for it instead.

 

[1srelluc]

 

[1srelluc]

I hear that the name the net is giving the shooter is "The Adjuster".

Someone was clever.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Actually, there is a booming health insurance industry in the UK.

Brits who care about their health go to private sector doctors and hospitals that expect to receive the coin of the realm in consideration for their services.

Skinflint British subjects who decide to go to NHS docs wait months if not years for anything and its done by doctors with no motivation.

So when British subject Mick Jagger needed complicated heart surgery, he came to America for it instead.

Demand for private healthcare hits record high in UK

Chronic NHS backlogs led to a 7% rise in private admissions between 2022-23

www.ft.com

"There were 898,000 admissions to private hospitals in 2023"

Out of 65 million people. Yes, rich people will try and jump the queue, and mostly because of the way the right wing government had been running the NHS down.

But they don't have to have private health insurance. And may of these will be people who get health insurance with their job, too.

 

[frigidweirdo]

insurance rates took a gigantic rate increase under biden and harris, and you go off on a tangent looking into some crystal ball about trup
It's these predictions with no fullfillment of prophecy is why you lost the election. These massive rates have come under hiden harris. deal with it chump

I lost the election, I lose the election every two years, I lose the presidential election every four years, because I think both parties are shit.

But you carry on thinking that there are only two sorts of people, Republicans and Democrats. I think most people are fed up of both of them.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I heard the reward is up to 50K.

Blah, they’ll just deny the claim for the reward check as soon as he’s booked into custody.

Certainly the story is bigger than if some kids get shot up in school.

 

[1srelluc]

Certainly the story is bigger than if some kids get shot up in school.

 

[Woodznutz]

Here's a video from occupy healthcare that I was watching, if you want their take on the problem of private healthcare.
Here's my view.

1) The US federal government spends about the same, or more, per capita than the UK government does for the NHS.

2) On top of this most Americans are then forced to buy themselves healthcare. This amounts to about 50% of all spending.

3) Something like 15% of the money that people pay for health insurance goes to the health insurance company. So, in the UK without health insurance companies, for the most part, they don't need to spend 7.5% on something that is completely unnecessary.

4) On top of the 15%, a lot of money is spent on unnecessary things, like over prescription of drugs, of using the more expensive drugs, of not trying to get the price of drugs down, of doctors taking a cut for proscribing certain types of drugs, of hospitals overcharging for all kinds of things.

5) The level of corruption is HUGE:

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/msparrow/files/corruption_in_health_care-the_us_experience-ti_global_report_on_corruption-2006-pp16-22.pdf

"in 1993, Attorney General Janet Reno declared it America’s‘number two crime problem’, second only to violent crime."

In the video at the top, the presenter points to the Senate and the Biden administration trying to go after corruption, and Trump... will probably not, because Trump doesn't give a fuck whether you get treated or not. Only that his buddies make their money. We'll see if he drops these investigations.

6) How much is the fraud? Well, healthcare amounts to 15% of the US GDP, and it seems like the US spend a lot more than anyone else, and a lot of people aren't getting proper coverage. In an article about this from maybe 20 years ago they estimated corruption to be about 20%-30%.

Will anything change because people have seen a need to attack this guy? he got killed, but very few people have any sympathy for him, as he's ruined countless lives.

How can ulcerative colitis treatment cost $2Million per year. Who's the crook here, the insurance company or the hospitals? Do a colostomy and be done with it. Sheez!

 

[progressive hunter]

Here's a video from occupy healthcare that I was watching, if you want their take on the problem of private healthcare.
Here's my view.

1) The US federal government spends about the same, or more, per capita than the UK government does for the NHS.

2) On top of this most Americans are then forced to buy themselves healthcare. This amounts to about 50% of all spending.

3) Something like 15% of the money that people pay for health insurance goes to the health insurance company. So, in the UK without health insurance companies, for the most part, they don't need to spend 7.5% on something that is completely unnecessary.

4) On top of the 15%, a lot of money is spent on unnecessary things, like over prescription of drugs, of using the more expensive drugs, of not trying to get the price of drugs down, of doctors taking a cut for proscribing certain types of drugs, of hospitals overcharging for all kinds of things.

5) The level of corruption is HUGE:

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/msparrow/files/corruption_in_health_care-the_us_experience-ti_global_report_on_corruption-2006-pp16-22.pdf

"in 1993, Attorney General Janet Reno declared it America’s‘number two crime problem’, second only to violent crime."

In the video at the top, the presenter points to the Senate and the Biden administration trying to go after corruption, and Trump... will probably not, because Trump doesn't give a fuck whether you get treated or not. Only that his buddies make their money. We'll see if he drops these investigations.

6) How much is the fraud? Well, healthcare amounts to 15% of the US GDP, and it seems like the US spend a lot more than anyone else, and a lot of people aren't getting proper coverage. In an article about this from maybe 20 years ago they estimated corruption to be about 20%-30%.

Will anything change because people have seen a need to attack this guy? he got killed, but very few people have any sympathy for him, as he's ruined countless lives.

who do you think is easier to deal with,,

an ins company that you can take to court or a government agency that controls the courts??

 

[Arlette]

Actually, there is a booming health insurance industry in the UK.

Brits who care about their health go to private sector doctors and hospitals that expect to receive the coin of the realm in consideration for their services.

Skinflint British subjects who decide to go to NHS docs wait months if not years for anything and its done by doctors with no motivation.

So when British subject Mick Jagger needed complicated heart surgery, he came to America for it instead.

Health care is great for the rich.
Tell us something we don't already know.

 

[HikerGuy83]

insurance rates took a gigantic rate increase under biden and harris, and you go off on a tangent looking into some crystal ball about trup
It's these predictions with no fullfillment of prophecy is why you lost the election. These massive rates have come under hiden harris. deal with it chump

On top of that , they cut social security benefits to pay for changes to the ACA.

Never told anyone.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Health care is great for the rich.
Tell us something we don't already know.

Not rich, not poor.

Had great health insurance me entire life.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Here's a video from occupy healthcare that I was watching, if you want their take on the problem of private healthcare.
Here's my view.

1) The US federal government spends about the same, or more, per capita than the UK government does for the NHS.

2) On top of this most Americans are then forced to buy themselves healthcare. This amounts to about 50% of all spending.

3) Something like 15% of the money that people pay for health insurance goes to the health insurance company. So, in the UK without health insurance companies, for the most part, they don't need to spend 7.5% on something that is completely unnecessary.

4) On top of the 15%, a lot of money is spent on unnecessary things, like over prescription of drugs, of using the more expensive drugs, of not trying to get the price of drugs down, of doctors taking a cut for proscribing certain types of drugs, of hospitals overcharging for all kinds of things.

5) The level of corruption is HUGE:

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/msparrow/files/corruption_in_health_care-the_us_experience-ti_global_report_on_corruption-2006-pp16-22.pdf

"in 1993, Attorney General Janet Reno declared it America’s‘number two crime problem’, second only to violent crime."

In the video at the top, the presenter points to the Senate and the Biden administration trying to go after corruption, and Trump... will probably not, because Trump doesn't give a fuck whether you get treated or not. Only that his buddies make their money. We'll see if he drops these investigations.

6) How much is the fraud? Well, healthcare amounts to 15% of the US GDP, and it seems like the US spend a lot more than anyone else, and a lot of people aren't getting proper coverage. In an article about this from maybe 20 years ago they estimated corruption to be about 20%-30%.

Will anything change because people have seen a need to attack this guy? he got killed, but very few people have any sympathy for him, as he's ruined countless lives.

NO

 

[Arlette]

Not rich, not poor.

Had great health insurance me entire life.

I work in healthcare. I make way more here than I could make in Europe.

 

[HikerGuy83]

I work in healthcare. I make way more here than I could make in Europe.

And you'll need it thanks to Joe and Kamala.

BTW: That is true of many many things.....like engineering.

 

[Arlette]

And you'll need it thanks to Joe and Kamala.

BTW: That is true of many many things.....like engineering.

I was living in Germany for a while. Now that America is ruined I may move there, if they let me.