Will people's attitude of healthcare change with the killing of that CEO?

[Zincwarrior]

Let the slaughter begin!

 

[braalian]

I work in healthcare. I make way more here than I could make in Europe.

Very true.

I was shocked to discover how little nurses make in the UK.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

That we have these programs reveals that our health has already crumbled.

There is no sense in the above, at all.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Our healthcare/health insurance system is public, private, and political.

And your point is?

 

[Woodznutz]

There is no sense in the above, at all.

If we weren't so unhealthy we wouldn't have all these problems with health insurance and healthcare. An economy built on caring for the sick is standing on feet of clay.

 

[Woodznutz]

And your point is?

If you don't get it, I can't explain it to you.

 

[frigidweirdo]

If you don't get it, I can't explain it to you.

I'm totally sure you can't.

 

[dblack]

The correct response to corrupt insurance companies isn't murder. We simply need to stop giving them our money. And repeal every law, state and federal, that props them up.

 

[Woodznutz]

I'm totally sure you can't.

I don't know how to answer a three-year-old who keeps asking "Are we there yet?" Not because don't know the answer but that the child wouldn't understand it if I did.

 

[frigidweirdo]

I don't know how to answer a three-year-old who keeps asking "Are we there yet?" Not because don't know the answer but that the child wouldn't understand it if I did.

Right, let's pretend this is about me, and not you.

 

[Woodznutz]

Right, let's pretend this is about me, and not you.

If you don't understand the basic problem, our poor health, what more can I say?

 

[dblack]

If you don't understand the basic problem, our poor health, what more can I say?

You could worry about your health and stay out of everyone else's business.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

National Health is everyone's business.

 

[dblack]

National Health is everyone's business.

My health is no one's business but mine. Mind your own.

 

[Woodznutz]

You could worry about your health and stay out of everyone else's business.

Tell that to HSS, CDC, and NIH.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Here's a video from occupy healthcare that I was watching, if you want their take on the problem of private healthcare.
Here's my view.

1) The US federal government spends about the same, or more, per capita than the UK government does for the NHS.

2) On top of this most Americans are then forced to buy themselves healthcare. This amounts to about 50% of all spending.

3) Something like 15% of the money that people pay for health insurance goes to the health insurance company. So, in the UK without health insurance companies, for the most part, they don't need to spend 7.5% on something that is completely unnecessary.

4) On top of the 15%, a lot of money is spent on unnecessary things, like over prescription of drugs, of using the more expensive drugs, of not trying to get the price of drugs down, of doctors taking a cut for proscribing certain types of drugs, of hospitals overcharging for all kinds of things.

5) The level of corruption is HUGE:

https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/msparrow/files/corruption_in_health_care-the_us_experience-ti_global_report_on_corruption-2006-pp16-22.pdf

"in 1993, Attorney General Janet Reno declared it America’s‘number two crime problem’, second only to violent crime."

In the video at the top, the presenter points to the Senate and the Biden administration trying to go after corruption, and Trump... will probably not, because Trump doesn't give a fuck whether you get treated or not. Only that his buddies make their money. We'll see if he drops these investigations.

6) How much is the fraud? Well, healthcare amounts to 15% of the US GDP, and it seems like the US spend a lot more than anyone else, and a lot of people aren't getting proper coverage. In an article about this from maybe 20 years ago they estimated corruption to be about 20%-30%.

Will anything change because people have seen a need to attack this guy? he got killed, but very few people have any sympathy for him, as he's ruined countless lives.

We need to trade stocks like Nancy Pelosi

 

[dblack]

Tell that to HSS, CDC, and NIH.

Ok. I will.

 

[Woodznutz]

My health is no one's business but mine. Mind your own.

Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose.

 

[dblack]

Your right to swing your fist ends at my nose.

Yep. Relevance??

 

[Woodznutz]

Yep. Relevance??

If you're sick stay away from others. You have no right to spread disease.