Zone1 Another question to ponder.

[Quantrill]

So his purpose for everything pre-flood was to destroy it?

Yes. But there was purpose other than just to destroy it. Man in the Garden was under a Divine law from God. They lived under law. They failed. Then, Mankind from Adam and Eve to the Flood, lived without law. The result, mankind degenerated quickly showing the necessity for the law of God. And after the flood Noah and his families, were given authority to exercise the death penalty for wrongs done. Which they could not do before.

That time period with Man in the Garden was testimony of man's failure even when created perfect and sinless. The time period between fallen Adam and the flood was testimony that man without the laws of God would degenerate quickly.

And God after the flood would begin with one man, Noah to repopulate the earth, and then soon after with one man, Abraham, to be God's people on earth.

Before the flood, it had become impossible for the people of God to live. Thus the need to destroy all but Noah and his family.

God accomplishes many things with one move. He seldom is just doing one thing.

Quantrill

 

[TNHarley]

Yes. But there was purpose other than just to destroy it. Man in the Garden was under a Divine law from God. They lived under law. They failed. Then, Mankind from Adam and Eve to the Flood, lived without law. The result, mankind degenerated quickly showing the necessity for the law of God. And after the flood Noah and his families, were given authority to exercise the death penalty for wrongs done. Which they could not do before.

That time period with Man in the Garden was testimony of man's failure even when created perfect and sinless. The time period between fallen Adam and the flood was testimony that man without the laws of God would degenerate quickly.

And God after the flood would begin with one man, Noah to repopulate the earth, and then soon after with one man, Abraham, to be God's people on earth.

Before the flood, it had become impossible for the people of God to live. Thus the need to destroy all but Noah and his family.

God accomplishes many things with one move. He seldom is just doing one thing.

Quantrill

I like how you defend genocidal psychopaths

 

[Meriweather]

80 year olds call their 50 year old offspring their "children"
Dont insult my intelligence. You defend people killing their CHILDREN for words. It is disgusting. And hateful. And psychotic.

Grin. No one can insult intelligence that is not present.

You don't even understand the difference between defending someone and explaining how a law--and how/who it applies to--when someone mistakenly believes it may be about killing a seven-year-old with a potty mouth.

 

[TNHarley]

Grin. No one can insult intelligence that is not present.

You don't even understand the difference between defending someone and explaining how a law--and how/who it applies to--when someone mistakenly believes it may be about killing a seven-year-old with a potty mouth.

Are you not comprehending what I am writing? Its no better if their CHILD is 43. 7 43 83 no matter. You dont kill people for cursing. Especially your own CHILD. Thats not moral. Obviously it is to you. And its disgusting. You should be living in some messed up country like Iran or NK that kill people for nothing.
How many of your kids have you murdered?

 

[TNHarley]

And people wonder why the abrahamic religions, and those believing in it claiming superiority, are so disliked

 

[BULLDOG]

You say He didn't have to. How do you know He didn't have to?

Quantrill

Omnipotent means you never have to say you're sorry.

 

[Meriweather]

Are you not comprehending what I am writing? Its no better if their CHILD is 43. 7 43 83 no matter. You dont kill people for cursing. Especially your own CHILD. Thats not moral. Obviously it is to you. And its disgusting. You should be living in some messed up country like Iran or NK that kill people for nothing.
How many of your kids have you murdered?

First, none of my children have tried to destroy me by slander, ruin my reputation, or sue me for my possessions, taking all I have. What you have difficulty understanding is that cursing in this day and age is meaningless. Much of what we often say is not worth saying or being heard. That's not how people behaved in earlier times. You are only seeing through the lens of modern, Western culture, our words, our definitions.

Have you never heard anyone, even in this day, apologize for cursing in front of a woman?

 

[Quantrill]

I like how you defend genocidal psychopaths

You asked.

Quantrill

 

[Quantrill]

Omnipotent means you never have to say you're sorry.

Big shit. That is no answer. How do you know He didn't have to?

Quantrill

 

[TNHarley]

First, none of my children have tried to destroy me by slander, ruin my reputation, or sue me for my possessions, taking all I have. What you have difficulty understanding is that cursing in this day and age is meaningless. Much of what we often say is not worth saying or being heard. That's not how people behaved in earlier times. You are only seeing through the lens of modern, Western culture, our words, our definitions.

Have you never heard anyone, even in this day, apologize for cursing in front of a woman?

Just shutup. You are still defending it. Im done with you.

 

[TNHarley]

You asked.

Quantrill

Lol true dat

 

[BULLDOG]

Big shit. That is no answer. How do you know He didn't have to?

Quantrill

When I was married and my crazy wife couldn't accept reality and couldn't quit yapping about something, I would tell her " I was wrong. You convinced me that you were right". That usually shut her up, at least for a while.

I was wrong, Quantrill. You convinced me that you were right

That should stop your bitching for a while.

 

[Meriweather]

Just shutup. You are still defending it. Im done with you.

Do the research. A problem here in the religion forum are people telling others what their religion "really" says. And all without bothering to do the research back into the original language, history, and culture. You think you are tossing a bomb...and it doesn't even make enough substance for a soap bubble. What you mean you are done discussing your assertion--as you should be.

 

[SweetSue92]

You know that is absurd logic, right?

No it's not. We apply similar logic all the time. "It was difficult, but it was worth it"

 

[SweetSue92]

Great idea. I think I'll dig a big old pit in my front yard and put alligators and snakes in the bottom of if, and then I'll tell the neighbor kids to stay away from it. If one or two end up in the pit, they deserved it. Then, I'll nail my own kid to a pole beside the pit so the remaining neighbor kids know I'm serious. The whole neighborhood will talk about how much I love kids.

Except you "nailed your own kid to a pole" because that's the only thing that will or ever could save for eternity the kids in the pit and the kids out of the pit. Not as a warning or a 'gotcha' but as a salvation.

 

[ding]

80 year olds call their 50 year old offspring their "children"
Dont insult my intelligence. You defend people killing their CHILDREN for words. It is disgusting. And hateful. And psychotic.

Yes, my children are approaching 40 years of age. For the record you are the one who is filled with hate. Normal people don't act this way. Militant atheists do.

 

[ding]

I like how you defend genocidal psychopaths

I like how you try to gas light Christians with arguments of ignorance. It shows your true colors.

 

[Hafar1014]

Yes. But there was purpose other than just to destroy it. Man in the Garden was under a Divine law from God. They lived under law. They failed. Then, Mankind from Adam and Eve to the Flood, lived without law. The result, mankind degenerated quickly showing the necessity for the law of God. And after the flood Noah and his families, were given authority to exercise the death penalty for wrongs done. Which they could not do before.

That time period with Man in the Garden was testimony of man's failure even when created perfect and sinless. The time period between fallen Adam and the flood was testimony that man without the laws of God would degenerate quickly.

And God after the flood would begin with one man, Noah to repopulate the earth, and then soon after with one man, Abraham, to be God's people on earth.

Before the flood, it had become impossible for the people of God to live. Thus the need to destroy all but Noah and his family.

God accomplishes many things with one move. He seldom is just doing one thing.

Quantrill

This is a total distortion of genesis. It also reflects the negative threat based foundation of Christianity. The true meaning is the moral teaching of man by God and the trial for mans freedom. Adam does learn morals and passes the test. He acquires freedom with free will and moral values
Christians distorted this into original sin and the fall of man to create reason for Jesus and a threat to force obedience. Accept Jesus to resolve original sin or burn in hell. Its all bull shit.

 

[BULLDOG]

Except you "nailed your own kid to a pole" because that's the only thing that will or ever could save for eternity the kids in the pit and the kids out of the pit. Not as a warning or a 'gotcha' but as a salvation.

So what greater power imposed that requirement, and why would they do it? Omnipotent means you make things work the way you want them to work, doesn't it?

 

[Meriweather]

So what greater power imposed that requirement, and why would they do it? Omnipotent means you make things work the way you want them to work, doesn't it?

Perhaps try to use the analogy of seeing events as being a conversation between God and humanity. Through free will, God does not control humanity's part of the conversation.