Zone1 Why do members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Baptize for the Dead?

[Robert W]

My path is different. Along with Rabbi Joe I feel that I must accomplish something for ten million Israelis before I pass on into the afterlife.

I strongly suspect that former Atheist and Rabbi Alon Anava could perhaps be a major fulfillment of Zechariah chapter three. If I became a full fledged Latter day Saint then my attempting to set you up online would have little or no value but because I write what I write as a Messianic Jew or Messianic Gentile who attends a non-denominational Charismatic or Pentecostal church, then my online encouragement to Latter day Saints has more value to get people thinking.

I did pray and ask Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and the Holy Spirit to show me whether or not to join the Latter day Saints and this is the answer that I felt very strongly.



I wonder if Rabbi Joe Charnes would agree with me that the near death experience account of former Atheist Rabbi Alon Anava reminds me of Matthew chapter four. The teachings of Rabbi Alon Anava since his 2001 seven minute brush with death remind me of Matthew chapters five, six and seven, [The Sermon on the Mount].


www.AlonAnava.com/

Rabbi Alon Anava's second lecture in Las Vegas seems to have HUGE implications for all Christians who believe that there is hidden meaning in Yom Kippur, that is similar to Passover, but also different.









I believe that the thirteen Prophets of the sixteen million Latter day Saint church can use the following concept effectively to promote Christian and Jewish dialogue.

Messiah, Barabbas & the Mystery of the Two Goats | Jonathan Cahn Sermon | Resurrection Day 2025​

There is a powerful death experience by a former Muslim woman.

She does not mention we LDS, but she did meet Jesus. We of course base our entire church on the teachings by Jesus.

The black link takes you to YouTube.

 

[DennisPTate]

There is a powerful death experience by a former Muslim woman.

She does not mention we LDS, but she did meet Jesus. We of course base our entire church on the teachings by Jesus.

The black link takes you to YouTube.

Very interesting indeed.

"Muslim Imam's Wife Dies and Returns With a SHOCKING TRUTH From Jesus"​

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If this near death experience account is genuine and not a product of A. I. then this woman probably volunteered for this amazing life story as an important part of her mission in life that she volunteered for before she was even conceived.

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[Robert W]

Very interesting indeed.

"Muslim Imam's Wife Dies and Returns With a SHOCKING TRUTH From Jesus"​

If this near death experience account is genuine and not a product of A. I. then this woman probably volunteered for this amazing life story as an important part of her mission in life that she volunteered for before she was even conceived.

Stop to think about the role of Jesus. The Bible claims all he had was his mother. It makes me conclude his father was in Heaven. And he worked faithfully spreading the word of God.
Frankly the near dead experiences seem like that too.

 

[Cougarbear]

My path is different. Along with Rabbi Joe I feel that I must accomplish something for ten million Israelis before I pass on into the afterlife.

I strongly suspect that former Atheist and Rabbi Alon Anava could perhaps be a major fulfillment of Zechariah chapter three. If I became a full fledged Latter day Saint then my attempting to set you up online would have little or no value but because I write what I write as a Messianic Jew or Messianic Gentile who attends a non-denominational Charismatic or Pentecostal church, then my online encouragement to Latter day Saints has more value to get people thinking.

I did pray and ask Messiah Yeshua - Jesus and the Holy Spirit to show me whether or not to join the Latter day Saints and this is the answer that I felt very strongly.



I wonder if Rabbi Joe Charnes would agree with me that the near death experience account of former Atheist Rabbi Alon Anava reminds me of Matthew chapter four. The teachings of Rabbi Alon Anava since his 2001 seven minute brush with death remind me of Matthew chapters five, six and seven, [The Sermon on the Mount].


www.AlonAnava.com/

Rabbi Alon Anava's second lecture in Las Vegas seems to have HUGE implications for all Christians who believe that there is hidden meaning in Yom Kippur, that is similar to Passover, but also different.









I believe that the thirteen Prophets of the sixteen million Latter day Saint church can use the following concept effectively to promote Christian and Jewish dialogue.

Messiah, Barabbas & the Mystery of the Two Goats | Jonathan Cahn Sermon | Resurrection Day 2025​

You need to re-read Lehi's Dream. Pay close attention to both the mist and the great and spacious building. Both are damning you and sorry to say, your family as well. You'll take them all down to hell for some misty rabbi or some loudmouth one in the great building. Sad, very sad.

 

[Robert W]

You need to re-read Lehi's Dream. Pay close attention to both the mist and the great and spacious building. Both are damning you and sorry to say, your family as well. You'll take them all down to hell for some misty rabbi or some loudmouth one in the great building. Sad, very sad.

Cougar, do we teach hell? I can't recall any services that did.

LDS belief:
Long answer: I wrote this post because I’ve found that people assume we believe in the traditional hellfire and damnation, and that causes a lot of misunderstanding. For instance, we claim to be the only religion with the “fullness of the gospel,” and that you have to be baptized by someone authorized by God (only in the LDS church) in order to be saved. People hear that and assume that we therefore believe that everyone else is “going to hell” in the sense that most modern Christians would use the phrase. That isn’t our belief, however.

What is hell? The word hell in the Bible is the English translation of the Greek word hades or the Hebrew word sheol. It originally referred to a temporary dwelling of spirits of all dead people, both righteous and wicked, and not solely as a place of punishment. The word hell didn’t evolve the sense of being a place of everlasting punishment until later (see reference 1, or click the word hades above for further reading).

That doesn’t mean that there isn’t a place of suffering, however. We believe that when we die, our spirits go to a place that we call the Spirit World to await the resurrection and judgment. Furthermore, the Spirit World is divided into two general states: paradise and prison, depending on how you have lived your life (see Megan’s two-part summary of the afterlife). In the Spirit World, everyone gets an equal chance (if they didn’t have it on earth) to hear and accept the gospel. Unrepentant people will still suffer, and we still refer to their suffering as “hell.”

 

[Cougarbear]

Cougar, do we teach hell? I can't recall any services that did.

LDS belief:
Long answer: I wrote this post because I’ve found that people assume we believe in the traditional hellfire and damnation, and that causes a lot of misunderstanding. For instance, we claim to be the only religion with the “fullness of the gospel,” and that you have to be baptized by someone authorized by God (only in the LDS church) in order to be saved. People hear that and assume that we therefore believe that everyone else is “going to hell” in the sense that most modern Christians would use the phrase. That isn’t our belief, however.

What is hell? The word hell in the Bible is the English translation of the Greek word hades or the Hebrew word sheol. It originally referred to a temporary dwelling of spirits of all dead people, both righteous and wicked, and not solely as a place of punishment. The word hell didn’t evolve the sense of being a place of everlasting punishment until later (see reference 1, or click the word hades above for further reading).

That doesn’t mean that there isn’t a place of suffering, however. We believe that when we die, our spirits go to a place that we call the Spirit World to await the resurrection and judgment. Furthermore, the Spirit World is divided into two general states: paradise and prison, depending on how you have lived your life (see Megan’s two-part summary of the afterlife). In the Spirit World, everyone gets an equal chance (if they didn’t have it on earth) to hear and accept the gospel. Unrepentant people will still suffer, and we still refer to their suffering as “hell.”

Actually, Elder McConkie called the Spirit World, Spirit Prison. And the two separate places Paradise and Hell. Those in Hell, if they don’t accept the Gospel and Jesus Christ they will end up denying the Holy Ghost and in a place known as Perdition. Perdition where Satan and Cain rule.

The phrase “go to Hell” is an expression of damnation. Not necessarily an actual place. I never said it was a place. I happen to agree with Elder McConkie’s opinion and definition.

And by teaching people have to have authorized baptisms is not a mistake. And whether or not some think that we then believe they will be damned to Hell means we haven’t been clear on the full message. Or, their assumptions are in correct and someone hopefully straightens them out. How many will end up in Perdition, who knows? But one-third of the hosts (that’s us too) fell and became Lucifer’s devils. All who came to earth followed Father in Heaven and Jehovah. So, I’m guessing most will not deny the Holy Ghost and end up in Perdition. 90-95%??? What do you think?

 

[Robert W]

Actually, Elder McConkie called the Spirit World, Spirit Prison. And the two separate places Paradise and Hell. Those in Hell, if they don’t accept the Gospel and Jesus Christ they will end up denying the Holy Ghost and in a place known as Perdition. Perdition where Satan and Cain rule.

The phrase “go to Hell” is an expression of damnation. Not necessarily an actual place. I never said it was a place. I happen to agree with Elder McConkie’s opinion and definition.

And by teaching people have to have authorized baptisms is not a mistake. And whether or not some think that we then believe they will be damned to Hell means we haven’t been clear on the full message. Or, their assumptions are in correct and someone hopefully straightens them out. How many will end up in Perdition, who knows? But one-third of the hosts (that’s us too) fell and became Lucifer’s devils. All who came to earth followed Father in Heaven and Jehovah. So, I’m guessing most will not deny the Holy Ghost and end up in Perdition. 90-95%??? What do you think?

In my quest for knowledge, I watched maybe 25 near death experiences and it seems to me that the general theme from even atheists is upon meeting Jesus, virtually all can themselves meet him in Heaven.

 

[Cougarbear]

In my quest for knowledge, I watched maybe 25 near death experiences and it seems to me that the general theme from even atheists is upon meeting Jesus, virtually all can themselves meet him in Heaven.

Heaven is a big place. There are also 3 degrees of heavenly glory. I would also place spirit prison (world) in heaven as well. D&C 76 and other places talks about how the telestial world of glory is much like our world and even greater. From the reading up on this near death experience for almost 50 years or more, it seems like when people meet the Lord or family members, it sounds a lot like the Garden of Eden. A Telestial Glory. Then, the people come back and what do they do? They don't look for the Celestial Glory found in First Corinthians Chapter 15. They come back and putter around talking about something personal to them to the world and get people distracted from the ultimate Goal, Eternal Life in the Celestial Kingdom.

 

[Ace Nova]

Then maybe you should contact the Pope and let him know that we will progress to be join heirs as gods as the Bible states in Genesis and all the early fathers of your Church. Funny how you damn the very beginnings of your Church by calling them liars.

In biblical times - lower case 'god' could have been referring to a person who exemplifies himself or herself - similar to the modern day word "Idol" - in a positive sense - not as a 'false idol'.

In those days - people praised high ranking people, along with 'angels' etc - many referred to as 'gods'.

There is nothing wrong with it - but 2000+ years of monotheism as the primary religions on Earth can change the way people understand certain words - Lower case 'god' sounds exactly the same when spoken verbally as "God" so I understand the amount of stress the subject could bring.

Long story short - never be alarmed if someone uses the word 'god' in lowercase format - to denote a being of high stature - or an angel - or a divine being. If used within proper context, there is nothing wrong with it - and if it is not used in a formal Catholic/Christian setting - I do not believe there are any 'laws' or 'rules' within the Church that govern the subject - other than noting The major difference between upper-case "God" and lower case 'god'.

My 2 cents.

 

[Cougarbear]

In biblical times - lower case 'god' could have been referring to a person who exemplifies himself or herself - similar to the modern day word "Idol" - in a positive sense - not as a 'false idol'.

In those days - people praised high ranking people, along with 'angels' etc - many referred to as 'gods'.

There is nothing wrong with it - but 2000+ years of monotheism as the primary religions on Earth can change the way people understand certain words - Lower case 'god' sounds exactly the same when spoken verbally as "God" so I understand the amount of stress the subject could bring.

Long story short - never be alarmed if someone uses the word 'god' in lowercase format - to denote a being of high stature - or an angel - or a divine being. If used within proper context, there is nothing wrong with it - and if it is not used in a formal Catholic/Christian setting - I do not believe there are any 'laws' or 'rules' within the Church that govern the subject - other than noting The major difference between upper-case "God" and lower case 'god'.

My 2 cents.

What you say certainly has merit. However. God speaking to “us” in the terms of becoming like “us” including the small “g” would suggest “god” refers to being God. In this case God-like knowing good and evil. The word “angel” is taken and I reason to think “god” means “angel.