Zone1 Why do members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints Baptize for the Dead?

[Meriweather]

Don’t ignore. The second answers your question. The first does too.

You already know I don't click on inserted videos. I am having a discussion with another member, not a video. Of course I'm ignoring it. Make your own case.

 

[Cougarbear]

You already know I don't click on inserted videos. I am having a discussion with another member, not a video. Of course I'm ignoring it. Make your own case.

You don’t care about the truth. Too bad. I win.

 

[Meriweather]

You don’t care about the truth. Too bad. I win.

I care more about truth. You care more about winning. I don't. You may have the "win".

 

[GLASNOST]

The problem with translating from those languages to English understanding is it to is full of opinion and interpretations.

Oh, you finally understand that, huh? That’s what we’ve been trying to tell you from the beginning.

There’s no doubt we are gods

I can’t even imagine what your personal definition of “doubt” is. Do you not know how that word works?

and Jesus clearly said. Joint heirs of God. And, baptism is required.

Actually, he never said that at all. There’s no doubt that Jesus was misquoted. The problem with the Cult of Mormonism translating to English understanding is that it is full of opinion and interpretations.

You can’t just make up stuff and make fact.

There’s no doubt that what I said is fact.

Especially since preaching to the spirit world and baptism for the dead is clearly in the Bible.

Then the bible is clearly wrong. Jesus was misquoted and I have already proved it. The problem with Mormonism (as with all Cults) is that it translates the bible through opinion and interpretations.

Does Meriweather baptize for the dead?

What does Meriweather have to do with it? I’ve looked through the bible from cover to cover in the three main languages but I cannot find her name mentioned even once. Could it be that her name is not Meriweather in Hebrew or Latin or ancient Greek?

She claims to be a member of the church

You don’t believe she’s a member of the Catholic Church? Do you think all non-Mormon Cult members are liars? Is that what they teach you?

She doesn’t follow the Bible. Not her church.

That is ridiculous of you to say and this is exactly why Mormonism is a Satanic Cult. The work of Satan is to deny the Covenant between God and Humanity. So far, denying the Covenant is exactly what you are doing with every post you’ve issued to this thread.

 

[GLASNOST]

The problem with translating from those languages to English understanding is it to is full of opinion and interpretations.

Yes, that's true. Here is a very good example of it:

 

[Cougarbear]

I care more about truth. You care more about winning. I don't. You may have the "win".

The truth is in the videos. They are Facebook-Reel videos. Plenty safe. Proof the Israel was not monotheistic at all.

 

[GLASNOST]

The truth is in the videos.

Yes, it is. Watch it again:

 

[Cougarbear]

Yes, it is. Watch it again:

 

[Cougarbear]

Stupid video you have.

 

[GLASNOST]

Stupid video you have.

How about this one?

 

[Meriweather]

The truth is in the videos. They are Facebook-Reel videos. Plenty safe. Proof the Israel was not monotheistic at all.

True of ancient Israel. That ended with Exodus--and was well on the way of ending with Abraham. Again, study the culture and their anthropology. Finding small pockets along the way do not speak for the faith in its entirety.

 

[Cougarbear]

True of ancient Israel. That ended with Exodus--and was well on the way of ending with Abraham. Again, study the culture and their anthropology. Finding small pockets along the way do not speak for the faith in its entirety.

Not at all! The people continually worshipped other gods before Jehovah. The main reason for the 10 lost tribes and the Jews of Judah carried away as well. Funny that the Bible even tells you there are many gods (they have become one of us). And the new testament scripture stated in both videos that we have the capacity to be joint heirs with Jesus Christ. The Father, Son and Holy Ghost don’t have a problem with this but “Christians” do! Sad but funny too.

 

[ding]

I’m very peaceful.

I'm not seeing it.

However, I’ve covenanted with the Lord to share my peace with others so they may know their salvation can be ensured.

That's you rationalizing division as peace. It's not. It's division. It's conflict. You crave conflict. You do not crave peace.

How can you be at peace knowing your ancestors are damned without baptism?

But they were baptized. But even if they were not, I would trust God before I ever trusted you. Trusting in God is the definition of peace. You don't trust God. I do.

 

[Meriweather]

Not at all! The people continually worshipped other gods before Jehovah. The main reason for the 10 lost tribes and the Jews of Judah carried away as well. Funny that the Bible even tells you there are many gods (they have become one of us). And the new testament scripture stated in both videos that we have the capacity to be joint heirs with Jesus Christ. The Father, Son and Holy Ghost don’t have a problem with this but “Christians” do! Sad but funny too.

The tenets of the Jewish faith regarding one God did not change. That does not mean every person unanimously followed the tenets of this faith. People who were serious about the Jewish faith did.

 

[Cougarbear]

I'm not seeing it.


That's you rationalizing division as peace. It's not. It's division. It's conflict. You crave conflict. You do not crave peace.


But they were baptized. But even if they were not, I would trust God before I ever trusted you. Trusting in God is the definition of peace. You don't trust God. I do.

Then your Jesus must be a very bad person. My Jesus says this in the Bible:

• Luke 22:32: "But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren" (KJV). This directly links personal conversion to the responsibility of helping others.
• Acts 1:8: "But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit has come on you, and you will be my witnesses... to the ends of the earth."
• Matthew 28:19–20: The Great Commission instructs believers to "make disciples of all nations," which is the ultimate, ongoing call to convert others.
• John 4:28–30, 39: The Samaritan woman at the well, immediately after her conversion, went back to her city and told others about Jesus, leading many to believe.
• Acts 16:32–33: Following their conversion, the Philippian jailer and his family were baptized, and he immediately showed care for Paul and Silas.
• 2 Corinthians 5:20: "We are ambassadors for Christ, since God is making his appeal through us."
• Galatians 6:1: "Brethren, if a man is overtaken in any trespass, you who are spiritual restore such a one in a spirit of gentleness".

It's your response that is causing division.

 

[Cougarbear]

The tenets of the Jewish faith regarding one God did not change. That does not mean every person unanimously followed the tenets of this faith. People who were serious about the Jewish faith did.

Jehovah said "Have no other gods BEFORE me." In simple English, there are other gods but for you, Israel, only follow me. Keep my commandments and perform the ordinances I give you." We all have other gods. Gods of gold and silver for instance. But, as Jehovah said, Adam and Eve have become as one of US. US is plural. And, if you think you can rationalize that, who the heck was Jehovah talking to then??? Himself?
And, when Jesus was baptized, immediately he went up from the water, and behold, the heavens were opened to him, and e saw the Spirit of God (Holy Ghost) descending like a dove and coming to rest on him; and behold, a voice from heaven said, "This is my beloved Son, with whom I am well pleased." WHAT??? Did Jesus just pat himself on the back? Did he just call himself his Father? The Trinity as you believe makes no sense. And, it puts Jesus in a position lacking humility by patting himself on the back. Three God's making up the Godhead. So, when he said, "they have become one of US" Jehovah was talking to His Father and His friend, the Holy Ghost. All three make up the Godhead and are separate individual beings.

 

[Cougarbear]

I care more about truth. You care more about winning. I don't. You may have the "win".

You have a presupposition of sola scriptura. That all revelation is God-breathed and you are imposing this presupposition on us. Meaning that the Bible is completely infallible and cannot change. And, if a prophet were to receive a revelation, it must also match the standard,(Bible). We reject literally all of that. Sola scriptura is not Biblical. I repeat, it is not Biblical. It didn't even exist until the 14th century and wasn't formalized until the Protestant Reformation in the 16th century.

See, we believe in the fact God still speaks and reveals new revelation. Revelation is misunderstood by most. Revelation is communication from God to man. God is perfect and so is his revelation. man is not perfect. We have never been perfect. Not even the prophets of God. Any and every revelation is filtered through human minds, hearts, and hands introducing imperfections into the equation. This includes the Bible, Book of Mormon, and other scriptures. It was not written by God. They were written by imperfect men, to the best of their abilities. But men are fallible. Scripture is still highly reliable, but not infallible. The only infallible source of truth is God himself. And that only comes through Prophets, not scholars. Living prophets mean new scripture and reinterpretation or corrections of old scripture. Exactly the same way the New Testament authors created more scripture and reinterpreted scripture from the Old Testament. Therefore, living prophets with today modern revelation means that change is not an issue for us. We believe in God who directs his people in real time. This also means that we will continue to see changes as He reveals to us and His Church line upon line and precept upon precept.

 

[GLASNOST]

I would trust God before I ever trusted you. Trusting in God is the definition of peace. You don't trust God. I do.

Bravo!

Then your Jesus must be a very bad person.

You are the anti-Christ, a Satan worshipper. You are now saying that Jesus is a very bad person.

Jehovah said "Have no other gods BEFORE me."

Yes, it is written in God's Commandments. But the Satanic Cult of Mormonism says they are gods and thus blaphemes God himself. That's what a Cult is. That what Satanic means.

Jehovah said ... perform the ordinances I give you."

That is a lie. God never said that the dead should be converted against their will. THAT proves the above statement is the work of the Satanic Cult of Mormonism that defies Exodus 20:3-5. The mere fact that the Satanic Cult of Mormonism talks about multiple gods proves its fundamentally blasphemous teachings without any doubt.

See, we believe in the fact God still speaks and reveals new revelation. Revelation is misunderstood by most. Revelation is communication from God to man.

That's exactly what other Satanic Cult leaders have said such as Jim Jones, David Koresh, Charles Manson, Marshall Applewihte, as well as individuals such as Ted Bundy, Gary Ridgeway, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Donald Gaskins, Arthur Shawcross, Richard Ramirez, Joseph DeAngelo, Albert DeSalvo, Charles Sobhraj, Kenneth Bianchi,Pol Pot, Bobby Joe Long, Edmond Kemper, Joel Rifkin, Aileen Wuornos, David Berkowitz, and many, many more. They all said God spoke to them and ordered them to murder people. And here we have the Satanic Cult of Mormonism saying the same thing and you are supporting it.

 

[Cougarbear]

Bravo!

You are the anti-Christ, a Satan worshipper. You are now saying that Jesus is a very bad person.

Yes, it is written in God's Commandments. But the Satanic Cult of Mormonism says they are gods and thus blaphemes God himself. That's what a Cult is. That what Satanic means.

That is a lie. God never said that the dead should be converted against their will. THAT proves the above statement is the work of the Satanic Cult of Mormonism that defies Exodus 20:3-5. The mere fact that the Satanic Cult of Mormonism talks about multiple gods proves its fundamentally blasphemous teachings without any doubt.

That's exactly what other Satanic Cult leaders have said such as Jim Jones, David Koresh, Charles Manson, Marshall Applewihte, as well as individuals such as Ted Bundy, Gary Ridgeway, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Donald Gaskins, Arthur Shawcross, Richard Ramirez, Joseph DeAngelo, Albert DeSalvo, Charles Sobhraj, Kenneth Bianchi,Pol Pot, Bobby Joe Long, Edmond Kemper, Joel Rifkin, Aileen Wuornos, David Berkowitz, and many, many more. They all said God spoke to them and ordered them to murder people. And here we have the Satanic Cult of Mormonism saying the same thing and you are supporting it.

If you can’t see the difference between those in your list and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints then you are the liar and Satanist.

 

[GLASNOST]

... the Satanic Cult of Mormonism ... said such as Jim Jones, David Koresh, Charles Manson, Marshall Applewihte, as well as individuals such as Ted Bundy, Gary Ridgeway, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer, Donald Gaskins, Arthur Shawcross, Richard Ramirez, Joseph DeAngelo, Albert DeSalvo, Charles Sobhraj, Kenneth Bianchi,Pol Pot, Bobby Joe Long, Edmond Kemper, Joel Rifkin, Aileen Wuornos, David Berkowitz, and many, many more. They all said God spoke to them and ordered them to murder people. And here we have the Satanic Cult of Mormonism saying the same thing and you are supporting it.

If you can’t see the difference between those in your list and the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints then you are the liar and Satanist.

If you deny the similarites between those on my list and the Satanic Cult of Morminism then you are a victim of being a Cult member. Go ahead and ask the members on that list if they think they are a Cult.