Zone1 A bunch of verses that prove that ALL who ever existed will live in God's Kingdom!

[Manonthestreet]

Is fire an appropriate fate for a "rich man"?

Has nothing to do with where you'll spend eternity

 

[Z99]

Wow. That's the biggest projection I've seen in a very, very long time. Maybe my entire time here on this site.

I've cited 50+ verses while you have cited your own personal theology.

Do you belong to a denomination?

 

[Z99]

Is fire an appropriate fate for a "rich man"?

That's up to Jesus but they won't remain there forever.

 

[Godboy]

That's up to Jesus but they won't remain there forever.

Is Jesus the kind of guy who would send a "rich man" to burn, even temporarily?

 

[buttercup]

I've cited 50+ verses while you have cited your own personal theology.

Do you belong to a denomination?

Those verses do not support your position. A number of us went through this before with you, on your other threads. You're twisting scripture to fit something that YOU want to believe, but directly contradicts scripture in numerous places, not to mention it contradicts the very words of Jesus.

I don't have the desire or time to chase the balls you're throwing, at least not at the moment. Again, you are misleading people. Which is a very serious thing.

 

[onefour1]

Matthew 7:21-23
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

 

[buttercup]

Matthew 7:21-23
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Sadly, you could probably post 100 clear verses like that, and he would still deny it.

 

[Z99]

Is Jesus the kind of guy who would send a "rich man" to burn, even temporarily?

I don'tbelieve so.

The "Lake of Fire" is a used in the Bible as a metaphor to describe a metallurgist's crucible, which is essentially a bowl used for refining metals. I believe that the LOF is more a process than a destination. The Bible doesn't explain what occurs there but we can surmise that it is a process of refinement and restoration. It may also be described as a "chastening", meaning punishment but punishment for the purpose of correction. It is done for the BENEFIT of the truly wicked so that they too can follow Jesus into God's Kingdom.

 

[Z99]

Matthew 7:21-23
21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Yes, but they're not there forever.

 

[Z99]

Sadly, you could probably post 100 clear verses like that, and he would still deny it.

People do get sent to the LOF but they don't remain there forever.

 

[IM2]

The OP is wrong, but if you say you believe and support Trump, you might want to stop that support.

 

[Godboy]

I don'tbelieve so.

The "Lake of Fire" is a used in the Bible as a metaphor to describe a metallurgist's crucible, which is essentially a bowl used for refining metals. I believe that the LOF is more a process than a destination. The Bible doesn't explain what occurs there but we can surmise that it is a process of refinement and restoration. It may also be described as a "chastening", meaning punishment but punishment for the purpose of correction. It is done for the BENEFIT of the truly wicked so that they too can follow Jesus into God's Kingdom.

Is it possible that some biblical stories are true, but others are completely made up? Like, are we going to take Jonah and the whale seriously?

 

[Z99]

Is it possible that some biblical stories are true, but others are completely made up? Like, are we going to take Jonah and the whale seriously?

I believe that the Bible is true and I can nearly prove it but that's for another thread.

 

[Godboy]

I believe that the Bible is true and I can nearly prove it but that's for another thread.

I beleive that "Jonah and the whale" was a made up story that people told children in ancient times. It was a story with a moral lesson, much like "Chicken Little" today. It was such a popular story that they decided to add it to the bible when they were sifting through THOUSANDS of stories and choosing which ones would make it in the book.

 

[Z99]

The run-if-the-mill Christian thinks that there is a place called "Hell" where Jesus tortures the "bad" people FOREVER. They teach others that Jesus is like Heinrich Himmler but much worse! Can you envision Jesus doing such a thing?

 

[Z99]

I beleive that "Jonah and the whale" was a story that people told children in ancient times. It was a story with a moral lesson, much like "Chicken Little" today. It was such a popular story that they decided to add it to the bible when they were sifting through THOUSANDS of stories and choosing which ones would make it in the book.

I believe the story is true. Jesus cited Jonah during his ministry.

 

[Godboy]

I believe the story is true. Jesus cited Jonah during his ministry.

Did he talk about a guy hanging out inside a whale? I mean, come on.

 

[Z99]

From the Book of John. Does this sound like an entity that would punish someone FOREVER?

Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God, and whoever loves has been born of God and knows God. 8 Anyone who does not love does not know God, because God is love. 9 In this the love of God was made manifest among us, that God sent his only Son into the world, so that we might live through him. 10 In this is love, not that we have loved God but that he loved us and sent his Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11 Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12 No one has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us and his love is perfected in us.

13 By this we know that we abide in him and he in us, because he has given us of his Spirit. 14 And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent his Son to be the Savior of the world. 15 Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. 16 So we have come to know and to believe the love that God has for us. God is love, and whoever abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. 17 By this is love perfected with us, so that we may have confidence for the day of judgment, because as he is so also are we in this world. 18 There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and whoever fears has not been perfected in love.

 

[Z99]

Did he talk about a guy hanging out inside a whale? I mean, come on.

I take it that you're a Satanist based on your avatar. Correct?

 

[Meriweather]

From the Book of John. Does this sound like an entity that would punish someone FOREVER?

What is your take on the story of the foolish virgins? (Matthew 25:1-13). It does seem to be a warning that the time may come when it is too late to enter the Kingdom.