I'm a Trump supporter, but I think a few of the democrazies ideas are OK

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I voted for Trump 3 times, and I feel that he has made America ALMOST great again. I guess that makes me a MAAGA.
So what are the good ideas ? >>>

1. Tax the VERY VERY rich more. It won't hurt to raise taxes on the top 1% (leaving the other 99% alone). C'mon folks, if you're at over TRILLION $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ net worth like Elon Musk, you could pay a lot more in taxes, and still have waaaaaaay more money than the rest of us. Those extra tax $$$$$$$$ could hire more ICE officers, hire more police to lower crime rates, get help for renters being smashed by greedy landlords, help business owners losing sales due to renters paying astronomical rents.

2 I wouldn't say say that this is really a Democrazies idea (because they oppose it about as much as Republicans do), but there really does need to be SOME degree of rent control, to stop runaway rents, which have skyrocketed to undreamed of levels over the last 4 years (200% inflation & some places even worse than that).
Before anyone comes barnstorming in here with all the decades old landlord propagandas about their costs being so high > :puhleeze: no landlord's costs are going up 200+% or anywhere near that, and New York City has had thousands of buildings under rent control for 100 years & the buildings are still there, not abandoned, still occupied, landlords still making profits on them.

3.. This one comes in the from of a question because I'm really not sure about it. If Democrats (currently holding seats in congress) have proposed raising social security COLAs, post that (with sources).
 
I voted for Trump 3 times, and I feel that he has made America ALMOST great again. I guess that makes me a MAAGA.
So what are the good ideas ? >>>

1. Tax the VERY VERY rich more. It won't hurt to raise taxes on the top 1% (leaving the other 99% alone). C'mon folks, if you're at over TRILLION $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ net worth like Elon Musk, you could pay a lot more in taxes, and still have waaaaaaay more money than the rest of us. Those extra tax $$$$$$$$ could hire more ICE officers, hire more police to lower crime rates, get help for renters being smashed by greedy landlords, help business owners losing sales due to renters paying astronomical rents.

2 I wouldn't say say that this is really a Democrazies idea (because they oppose it about as much as Republicans do), but there really does need to be SOME degree of rent control, to stop runaway rents, which have skyrocketed to undreamed of levels over the last 4 years (200% inflation & some places even worse than that).
Before anyone comes barnstorming in here with all the decades old landlord propagandas about their costs being so high > :puhleeze: no landlord's costs are going up 200+% or anywhere near that, and New York City has had thousands of buildings under rent control for 100 years & the buildings are still there, not abandoned, still occupied, landlords still making profits on them.

3.. This one comes in the from of a question because I'm really not sure about it. If Democrats (currently holding seats in congress) have proposed raising social security COLAs, post that (with sources).

You have a very naive understanding of how these things work.

How old are you, if you don't mind?
 
Do you know how much Elon Musk pays in taxes, and do you know where his wealth is stored?
Not enough, and as far as where his wealth is, what about it ?

In 2025, he paid $11 billion, which amount to about 1% of his trillion $ wealth.
 
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I actually liked Andrew Yang. He had some brilliant ideas about how to have the states income taxes work for the people, and have the states products incomes be distributed amoung the tax payers.

He was definitely 1970s old school Democrat. I would have defintely voted for him.
 
I voted for Trump 3 times, and I feel that he has made America ALMOST great again. I guess that makes me a MAAGA.
So what are the good ideas ? >>>

1. Tax the VERY VERY rich more. It won't hurt to raise taxes on the top 1% (leaving the other 99% alone). C'mon folks, if you're at over TRILLION $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ net worth like Elon Musk, you could pay a lot more in taxes, and still have waaaaaaay more money than the rest of us. Those extra tax $$$$$$$$ could hire more ICE officers, hire more police to lower crime rates, get help for renters being smashed by greedy landlords, help business owners losing sales due to renters paying astronomical rents.

2 I wouldn't say say that this is really a Democrazies idea (because they oppose it about as much as Republicans do), but there really does need to be SOME degree of rent control, to stop runaway rents, which have skyrocketed to undreamed of levels over the last 4 years (200% inflation & some places even worse than that).
Before anyone comes barnstorming in here with all the decades old landlord propagandas about their costs being so high > :puhleeze: no landlord's costs are going up 200+% or anywhere near that, and New York City has had thousands of buildings under rent control for 100 years & the buildings are still there, not abandoned, still occupied, landlords still making profits on them.

3.. This one comes in the from of a question because I'm really not sure about it. If Democrats (currently holding seats in congress) have proposed raising social security COLAs, post that (with sources).
Great, so which companies of Elons would you like to close down and fire it's employes?
 
I voted for Trump 3 times, and I feel that he has made America ALMOST great again. I guess that makes me a MAAGA.
So what are the good ideas ? >>>

1. Tax the VERY VERY rich more. It won't hurt to raise taxes on the top 1% (leaving the other 99% alone). C'mon folks, if you're at over TRILLION $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ net worth like Elon Musk, you could pay a lot more in taxes, and still have waaaaaaay more money than the rest of us. Those extra tax $$$$$$$$ could hire more ICE officers, hire more police to lower crime rates, get help for renters being smashed by greedy landlords, help business owners losing sales due to renters paying astronomical rents.

2 I wouldn't say say that this is really a Democrazies idea (because they oppose it about as much as Republicans do), but there really does need to be SOME degree of rent control, to stop runaway rents, which have skyrocketed to undreamed of levels over the last 4 years (200% inflation & some places even worse than that).
Before anyone comes barnstorming in here with all the decades old landlord propagandas about their costs being so high > :puhleeze: no landlord's costs are going up 200+% or anywhere near that, and New York City has had thousands of buildings under rent control for 100 years & the buildings are still there, not abandoned, still occupied, landlords still making profits on them.

3.. This one comes in the from of a question because I'm really not sure about it. If Democrats (currently holding seats in congress) have proposed raising social security COLAs, post that (with sources).
1. So you feel capitalists making more money than your reasonable cutoff are bad and should pay more taxes.

2. Why do you hate capitalism?

3. Democrats aren't in charge. They can 'propose' all day.

Fuq off. :rolleyes:
 
1. So you feel capitalists making more money than your reasonable cutoff are bad and should pay more taxes.

2. Why do you hate capitalism?

3. Democrats aren't in charge. They can 'propose' all day.

Fuq off.
Fool. I've been a capitalist business owner for 43 years.
Don't you know that 99% of business owners are not landlords, and we are being damaged massively by the landlord greed of the past 5 years ?

Capitalists are the victims of landlords, not cohorts. :rolleyes:
 
Not enough, and as far as where his wealth is, what about it ?

In 2025, he paid $11 billion, which amount to about 1% of his trillion $ wealth.

His wealth is the value of his companies, so do you think he should sell them? Give them to the government? Tell me your strategy for taxing equity and unrealized gains.
 
Fool. I've been a capitalist business owner for 43 years.
Don't you know that 99% of business owners are not landlords, and we are being damaged massively by the landlord greed of the past 5 years ?

Capitalists are the victims of landlords, not cohorts. :rolleyes:

You should be giving some of your stake in your business to the government. That's what you're proposing for others, you go first.

Your stocks, too. Pay your fair share.
 
Alrighty, so you feel Elon just happens to have a trillion dollars sitting in an account at Chase Bank or Bank of America, maybe even sitting in a piggy bank?
He has enough sitting to be able to pay far more than 1% of his wealth, without affecting anything of his activities. In 2025, he paid 11 billion, largely due to exercising Tesla stock options, and selling billions of dollars' worth of Tesla shares. Chase Bank, Piggy Bank, or any other bank, he paid it, and %wise it's a lot less than the average American paid.
 
He has enough sitting to be able to pay far more than 1% of his wealth, without affecting anything of his activities. In 2025, he paid 11 billion, largely due to exercising Tesla stock options, and selling billions of dollars' worth of Tesla shares. Chase Bank, Piggy Bank, or any other bank, he paid it, and %wise it's a lot less than the average American paid.

What percentage of your net worth do you pay in taxes every year?

I pay about 1%.
 
You should be giving some of your stake in your business to the government. That's what you're proposing for others, you go first.

Your stocks, too. Pay your fair share.
I, and all other average Americans, have paid far more %wise than Elon Musk's 1%, and we've paid it for 40 years.
 
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Rent is absolutely insane, before some family gave me a camper to live in on their property I was paying 1200 a month for a boarding house in the middle of nowhere. With 8 renters in the building, you do the math on that.
 
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What percentage of your net worth do you pay in taxes every year?

I pay about 1%.
That has nothing to do with the top 1% paying taxes, and it's none of your business, but if you would like a close look at one of my businesses ( I have 2), you can take a look. It's public information :biggrin: >>

 
His wealth is the value of his companies, so do you think he should sell them? Give them to the government? Tell me your strategy for taxing equity and unrealized gains.
He doesn't have to give up his companies, to pay far more than 1%, and if you pay that same %, you probably ought to be paying more than that too, to not do so isn't fair to all the millions of Americans paying the standard tax rates (10-37%)
 
Rent is absolutely, before some family gave me a camper to live in on their property I was paying 1200 a month for a boarding house in the middle of nowhere. With 8 renters in the building, you do the math on that.
I didnt quite follow you. Rent is absolutely what ?
 

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