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Eternal sins, Unforgivable sins, Unpardonable sins, or Ultimate sins are that are not forgiven by God
What counts as blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?
The unpardonable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
Blasphemy includes ridicule and attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to the devil.

Matthew 12:30-33 (NKJV) He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.

Matthew 12: 31 "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, will not be forgiven him or her, either in this age or in the age to come.
Matthew 12: 33 "Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit.


The Unpardonable Sin
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Romans 1:28-32 (NKJV) And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars; and you have persevered, have patience, and have labored for My name's sake and have not become weary.
Rev 2:2-3

He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son.
But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns in the lake of fire, which is the second death."
Rev 21:7-8


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2 Thessalonians 2:3-4 Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God.

Matthew 24:23-25 (KJV) Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Behold, I have told you before.

2 Corinthians 11:13-15 (KJV) For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
And no marvel; not for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.
 
there are no sinners of any type in the heavens especially worshipers and persecuters of false religions, they must be redeemed where possible before the physiology's death or find somewhere else to live.
 
there are no sinners of any type in the heavens especially worshipers and persecuters of false religions, they must be redeemed where possible before the physiology's death or find somewhere else to live.
but we are not in heaven and heaven yes is free from sin Just Love
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The unpardonable sin is to willfully deny and defy the Holy Ghost after having received His witness.​

No man can sin against light until he has it; nor against the Holy Ghost, until after he has received it by the gift of God through the appointed channel or way. To sin against the Holy Ghost, the Spirit of Truth, the Comforter, the Witness of the Father and the Son, wilfully denying him and defying him, after having received him, constitutes [the unpardonable sin].16

No man can possibly commit the unpardonable sin in ignorance. A man must be brought to a knowledge of Christ; he must receive a testimony of Christ in his heart, and possess light and power, knowledge and understanding, before he is capable of committing that sin. But when a man turns away from the truth, violates the knowledge that he has received, tramples it under his feet, puts Christ again to open shame, denies His atonement, denies the power of the resurrection, denies the miracles that He has wrought for the salvation of the human family, and says in his heart, “It is not true”, and abides in that denial of the truth, after having received the testimony of the Spirit, he commits the unpardonable sin.17

[Following the Savior’s Crucifixion,] why were [the Apostles] forgetful and seemingly ignorant of all they had been taught by the Savior respecting the objects of his mission to the earth? Because they lacked one important qualification, they had not yet been “endowed with power from on high.” [See Luke 24:49.] They had not yet obtained the gift of the Holy Ghost. …

If the disciples had been endowed with the “gift of the Holy Ghost,” or “with power from on high,” at this time, their course would have been altogether different … , as the sequel abundantly proved. If Peter, who was the chief apostle, had received the gift of the Holy Ghost, and the power and testimony thereof prior to the terrible night on which he cursed and swore and denied his Lord [see Matthew 26:69–75], the result would have been very different with him, for then he would have sinned against “light and knowledge,” and “against the Holy Ghost,” for which there is no forgiveness. The fact, therefore, that he was forgiven, after bitter tears of repentance, is an evidence that he was without the witness of the Holy Ghost, never having received it. The other disciples or apostles of Christ were precisely in the same condition, and it was not until the evening of the day on which Jesus came out of the grave that he bestowed upon them this inestimable gift [see John 20:22].18

Just before the risen Redeemer left the earth he commanded his disciples to tarry in the city of Jerusalem until they should be endowed with power from on high. They did so, and agreeable to promise, the Comforter came whilst they were met together, filling their hearts with unspeakable joy, insomuch that they spake in tongues and prophesied; and the inspiring influence of this holy being accompanied them in all their ministerial duties, enabling them to perform the great mission to which they had been called by the Savior.19

Saul, of Tarsus, possessing extraordinary intelligence and learning, brought up at the feet of Gamaliel, taught according to the perfect manner of the law, persecuted the Saints unto death, binding and delivering unto prisons both men and women; and when the blood of the Martyr Stephen was shed, Saul stood by keeping the raiment of those who slew him, and consented unto his death. And “he made havoc of the Church, entering into every house, and haling men and women committed them to prison.” [Acts 8:3.] And when they were put to death, he gave his voice against them, and he “punished them oft in every synagogue, and compelled them to blaspheme; and being exceedingly mad against them, persecuted them even unto strange cities,” [Acts 26:11] and yet this man committed no unpardonable sin, because he knew not the Holy Ghost.20

If any people on earth are capable of committing the unpardonable sin, you will find them among those who have, or will, come to a knowledge of the truth. … You and I have received the light. We have received the Holy Priesthood. We have received the testimony of the Holy Spirit, and have been brought from death unto life. Therefore, we are now on very safe or on dangerous ground,—dangerous if we are trifling with these sacred things that have been committed to our care. Hence I warn you, my brethren and sisters, especially my brethren, against trifling with your [priesthood]. … If you do, as God lives He will withdraw His Spirit from you, and the time will come when you will be found kicking against the light and knowledge which you have received, and you may become sons of perdition. Therefore, you had better beware lest the second death shall be passed upon you.21
 
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, will not be forgiven him or her, either in this age or in the age to come.

Yes, ages, not eternity.
 
but we are not in heaven and heaven yes is free from sin Just Love

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purity from evil - their minimum for admission.

the flaw the desert exerts against those that fell - there can be love with conspiracy the entertainment value is what is important.
 
The Lord has revealed through the Prophet Joseph Smith in these last days the following concerning those who become Sons of Perdition:

Doctrine and Covenants 76:30-49
30 And we saw a vision of the sufferings of those with whom he made war and overcame, for thus came the voice of the Lord unto us:
31 Thus saith the Lord concerning all those who know my power, and have been made partakers thereof, and suffered themselves through the power of the devil to be overcome, and to deny the truth and defy my power—
32 They are they who are the sons of perdition, of whom I say that it had been better for them never to have been born;
33 For they are vessels of wrath, doomed to suffer the wrath of God, with the devil and his angels in eternity;
34 Concerning whom I have said there is no forgiveness in this world nor in the world to come—
35 Having denied the Holy Spirit after having received it, and having denied the Only Begotten Son of the Father, having crucified him unto themselves and put him to an open shame.
36 These are they who shall go away into the lake of fire and brimstone, with the devil and his angels—
37 And the only ones on whom the second death shall have any power;
38 Yea, verily, the only ones who shall not be redeemed in the due time of the Lord, after the sufferings of his wrath.
39 For all the rest shall be brought forth by the resurrection of the dead, through the triumph and the glory of the Lamb, who was slain, who was in the bosom of the Father before the worlds were made.
40 And this is the gospel, the glad tidings, which the voice out of the heavens bore record unto us—
41 That he came into the world, even Jesus, to be crucified for the world, and to bear the sins of the world, and to sanctify the world, and to cleanse it from all unrighteousness;
42 That through him all might be saved whom the Father had put into his power and made by him;
43 Who glorifies the Father, and saves all the works of his hands, except those sons of perdition who deny the Son after the Father has revealed him.
44 Wherefore, he saves all except them—they shall go away into everlasting punishment, which is endless punishment, which is eternal punishment, to reign with the devil and his angels in eternity, where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched, which is their torment—
45 And the end thereof, neither the place thereof, nor their torment, no man knows;
46 Neither was it revealed, neither is, neither will be revealed unto man, except to them who are made partakers thereof;
47 Nevertheless, I, the Lord, show it by vision unto many, but straightway shut it up again;
48 Wherefore, the end, the width, the height, the depth, and the misery thereof, they understand not, neither any man except those who are ordained unto this condemnation.
49 And we heard the voice, saying: Write the vision, for lo, this is the end of the vision of the sufferings of the ungodly.
 
Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit means to break away from your Spiritual Nature. (In my opinion).

Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit cannot be forgiven because if you are not a part of the Spirit it is impossible to be "forgiven" for something that you are not a part of.

The only way that "Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit" can be "reversed" not "forgiven" is if a person returns to their Spiritual Nature.

That is what Jesus said and meant to say. (In my humble opinion).

Mark 3:

Jesus Accused by His Family and by Teachers of the Law​


20 Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat. 21 When his family[b] heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”

(Jesus' "flesh and blood" family members thought he was insane)

22 And the teachers of the law who came down from Jerusalem said, “He is possessed by Beelzebul! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons.”

(The 'teachers of the Law/Religious leaders) accused Jesus of "working with 'the dark side' in order to 'drive out demons'.)

23 So Jesus called them over to him and began to speak to them in parables:

“How can Satan drive out Satan? (How can your adversary drive out your adversary?)

24 If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25 If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26 And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come. (If your adversary is against itself it is no longer your adversary).

27 In fact, no one can enter a strong man’s house without first tying him up. Then he can plunder the strong man’s house. 28 Truly I tell you, people can be forgiven all their sins and every slander they utter, 29 but whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin.”

30 He said this because they were saying, “He has an impure spirit.”

God's Spirit is revealed in Isaiah 45:

I form the light and create the darkness;
prosperity and disaster depend upon my will;
I, the Lord, do all these things.


Had the "teachers of the Law"understood this, they would never have accused Jesus of "working with the dark side" in order to "drive out demons". It was their own "blasphemy of the Holy Spirit" (breaking away from their Spiritual Nature) that caused them to accuse Jesus of wrongdoing. (In my humble opinion).

If Jesus used "Beelzebub" to drive out "Beelzebub" what would be left?

Matthew 12:

22 Whoever Is Not with Me Is against Me.[j]

Then they brought to him a man who was unable to either see or speak and who was possessed by a demon. He cured him, so that the man who was mute both spoke and saw. 23 All the people were astonished, and they said, “Is this not the Son of David?”[k] 24 But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “It is only by Beelzebul,[l] the prince of demons, that this man casts out demons.”

25 He knew what they were thinking, and he said to them, “Every kingdom divided against itself is laid waste, and every city or household divided against itself cannot survive. 26 If Satan drives out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then can his kingdom survive?

27 If it is by Beelzebul that I cast out demons, by whom do your own children cast them out? Therefore, they will be your judges. 28 But if it is by the Spirit of God that I cast out demons, then the kingdom of God has come to you.

29 “Or again, how can anyone break into a strong man’s house and steal his possessions unless he first ties up the strong man? Then indeed he can ransack the house.

30 “Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters.

31 Therefore, I tell you that every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.[m

Jesus was foretelling about his eventual crucifixion - at this point his "blood family" had abandoned him as being "insane" so his family were those that "believed in his teachings and his way" - The Holy Spirit. His "blood family" "blasphemed against the Son of Man" (Jesus in the flesh - so they would be forgiven).

His "Spiritual family" blasphemed against the "Son of Man" when they "scattered" during his passion. (They would also be forgiven). But those that blasphemed against both the Son of Man (Jesus in the flesh) and The Holy Spirit (The Spirit) - Judas - would never be forgiven. For had Judas believed in the Holy Spirit, he would have never killed himself after betraying the Son of Man (Jesus in the flesh) - for that sin would have been forgiven. It was Judas completely departing from his Spiritual Nature (Losing and denying his faith) that caused Judas to betray Jesus ("Satan entered him").



The ones that can never be forgiven are the ones that deny the existence of the Spirit because they are not a part of the Spirit. This is the meaning of what Jesus said. And yet, in God's infinite wisdom - ALL THINGS ARE POSSIBLE. If a person reunites themselves with their Spiritual Nature, no blasphemy against the Spirit has occurred.
(In my humble opinion).


31 Then Jesus’ mother and brothers arrived. Standing outside, they sent someone in to call him. 32 A crowd was sitting around him, and they told him, “Your mother and brothers are outside looking for you.”

33 “Who are my mother and my brothers?” he asked.

34 Then he looked at those seated in a circle around him and said, “Here are my mother and my brothers! 35 Whoever does God’s will is my brother and sister and mother.”

And yet - during his passion, when he lay on the cross naked, in humiliation - it was his mother and one or two others that were there. The others all scattered - denying the Son of Man and committing blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

Jesus (in the flesh) was resurrected so that his Apostles, disciples - billions and billions of followers throughout the ages - the very same ones who abandoned him - could live - for if their Spiritual faith was restored, they would no longer be guilty of the "eternal sin".



“Behold, the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world."
 
purity from evil - their minimum for admission.

the flaw the desert exerts against those that fell - there can be love with conspiracy the entertainment value is what is important.
The Divine Comedy.

And yet, it goes against the laws of the Universe - of all creation. One cannot "deny sin and sin no more" if no sin exists.

For without 'sin" your "heavens"could not exist. For by your own words, admission would be to "deny sin" and to remain would be "to sin no more".

Is your existence dependent on the very same thing you deny?

Yes? No?

Please explain.
 
Eternal sins, Unforgivable sins, Unpardonable sins, or Ultimate sins are that are not forgiven by God
What counts as blasphemy against the Holy Spirit?
The unpardonable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit.
Blasphemy includes ridicule and attributing the works of the Holy Spirit to the devil.

Matthew 12:30-33 (NKJV) He who is not with Me is against Me, and he who does not gather with Me scatters abroad.

Matthew 12: 31 "Therefore I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven men.
Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit, will not be forgiven him or her, either in this age or in the age to come.
Matthew 12: 33 "Either make the tree good and its fruit good, or else make the tree bad and its fruit bad; for a tree is known by its fruit.


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Romans 1:28-32 (NKJV) And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a debased mind, to do those things which are not fitting; being filled with all unrighteousness, sexual immorality, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, evil-mindedness; they are whisperers, backbiters, haters of God, violent, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, undiscerning, untrustworthy, unloving, unforgiving, unmerciful; who, knowing the righteous judgment of God, that those who practice such things are deserving of death, not only do the same but also approve of those who practice them.

I know your works, your labor, your patience, and that you cannot bear those who are evil. And you have tested those who say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars; and you have persevered, have patience, and have labored for My name's sake and have not become weary.
Rev 2:2-3

He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son.
But the cowardly, unbelieving, abominable, murderers, sexually immoral, sorcerers, idolaters, and all liars shall have their part in the lake which burns in the lake of fire, which is the second death."
Rev 21:7-8


So, what's your point or question? The sin against the Holy Ghost is unpardonable because anyone who has an absolute knowledge of God through the spirit like a vision, then rejects the vision and the knowledge has sinned against the Holy Ghost. That most likely won't happen until the judgment day where there will be some that will do as Lucifer did and reject the Father and Son in the presence of the Holy Ghost. The question is, do they still receive a resurrected body? I believe all who come to the earth will be resurrected. The question is, what type of resurrected body will they receive? 1Corinthians chapter 15 gives insight on the physical make up of resurrected bodies. Not all will be the same. There is 3 levels of heaven stated. These will not contain those who sin against the Holy Ghost. There is another place for them, Perdition in which Satan (Lucifer) reigns.
 
The Divine Comedy.

And yet, it goes against the laws of the Universe - of all creation. One cannot "deny sin and sin no more" if no sin exists.

For without 'sin" your "heavens"could not exist. For by your own words, admission would be to "deny sin" and to remain would be "to sin no more".

Is your existence dependent on the very same thing you deny?

Yes? No?

Please explain.

the heavenly religion of antiquity - the triumph of good vs evil - granted a&e as the goal through self determination for admission to the everlasting is for those spirits the certainty of their purity - not that it, evil can be destroyed - or that sin can exist than for those that are sinless.

- to be the same as those already in the heavens is what is judged if accomplished.
 
So, what's your point or question? The sin against the Holy Ghost is unpardonable because anyone who has an absolute knowledge of God through the spirit like a vision, then rejects the vision and the knowledge has sinned against the Holy Ghost. That most likely won't happen until the judgment day where there will be some that will do as Lucifer did and reject the Father and Son in the presence of the Holy Ghost. The question is, do they still receive a resurrected body? I believe all who come to the earth will be resurrected. The question is, what type of resurrected body will they receive? 1Corinthians chapter 15 gives insight on the physical make up of resurrected bodies. Not all will be the same. There is 3 levels of heaven stated. These will not contain those who sin against the Holy Ghost. There is another place for them, Perdition in which Satan (Lucifer) reigns.
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But he who endures to the end shall be saved.
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached all over the world as a witness to all the nations, and then the end will come.
Matt 24:13-14 (NKJV)
 
Yes, ages, not eternity.
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1Co 1:8 — He will keep you strong to the end so that you will be free from all blame on the day when our Lord Jesus Christ returns.

Php 1:6 — And I am certain that God, who began the good work within you, will continue his work until it is finally finished on the day Christ Jesus returns.

2Ti 1:18 — May the Lord show him special kindness on the day of Christ’s return. And you know very well how helpful he was in Ephesus.

2Pe 3:12 — looking forward to the day of God and hurrying it along. On that day, he will set the heavens on fire, and the elements will melt away in the flames.

See 2 Thessalonians 2:11

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Gal 5:17 (KJV) For the flesh lusted against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Gal 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Eph 2:2 ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:


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1Co 1:8 — He will keep you strong to the end so that you will be free from all blame on the day when our Lord Jesus Christ returns.

Php 1:6 — And I am certain that God, who began the good work within you, will continue his work until it is finally finished on the day Christ Jesus returns.

2Ti 1:18 — May the Lord show him special kindness on the day of Christ’s return. And you know very well how helpful he was in Ephesus.

2Pe 3:12 — looking forward to the day of God and hurrying it along. On that day, he will set the heavens on fire, and the elements will melt away in the flames.

See 2 Thessalonians 2:11

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Gal 5:17 (KJV) For the flesh lusted against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

Gal 5:19-21 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

Eph 2:2 ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
 
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