Thanx...brain dead this morning~ corrected.Actually closer to 200 years 1829 1830 or so.
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Thanx...brain dead this morning~ corrected.Actually closer to 200 years 1829 1830 or so.
I stand corrected but he was still a criminal.LDS was formed in 1830---about 191 years ago--but facts aren't really your strong point,are they?
And the mob was in the wrong and probably created by the Governor. Smith was charged by haters that drove out the Mormons across the Country starting with New York. He was probably accused for political reasons on most of the charges against him. Hell even after he was murdered the US Government got in the act trying to start a war with Brigham Young later in Utah.I stand corrected but he was still a criminal.
Joseph Smith, the founder of the Latter Day Saint movement, was subjected to approximately thirty criminal actions during his life.[1] Another source reports that Smith was arrested at least 42 times, including in the states of New York, Ohio, Missouri, and Illinois.[2]
In 1844, Smith was killed by a mob in Carthage, Illinois, while in jail awaiting trial on charges of inciting a riot for ordering the destruction of the Nauvoo Expositor, a newspaper critical of Smith which accused him of practicing polygamy, and for treason against the State of Illinois for calling out the Nauvoo Legion contrary to the orders of the Governor of Illinois.
And the mob was in the wrong and probably created by the Governor. Smith was charged by haters that drove out the Mormons across the Country starting with New York. He was probably accused for political reasons on most of the charges against him. Hell even after he was murdered the US Government got in the act trying to start a war with Brigham Young later in Utah.
So as long as people you don't like are murdered you don't mind how very enlightened of you. And beter if the Government does it right?I'm pleased he's just another religious fraudulent charlatan taken out. There a lot more yet to go the thieving lying corrupt arseholes.
Regarding Joseph Smith and the "glasslooking" charge see Joseph Smith/Legal issues/1826 court appearance for glasslookingThis succinctly said what I was going to. Mormons are almost without fail very kind people. But their founders were not, and they do indeed belong to a cult. Joseph Smith was absolutely a con man and a grifter.
The Book of Abraham is a perfect example
Depending on where they look I suppose. However, if you read the Church member responses you can actually learn something.Joseph Smith was said to translate the Book of Abraham which, he professed, was about Abraham. It was not. It was a standard Egyptian funeral document. The entire thing was false. As usual, he grifted the entire thing.
Anyone can look it up and see.
You're judging their religion by your religion. I'd guess they'd find your version of Christianity to be bizarre, I mean you are ignoring an entire book of scripture.You're going to get a nice King James Bible from the Mormons or LDS however they style themselves, and there are lots of good feelings about Jesus Christ — but some of that other literature they put out is just too bizarre, and I've got to put my foot down when I see those extravagant temples with expensive brickwork, satellite dishes, and the expectations of tithing to pay for it all, not to mention the "Lost Boys" who are excommunicated or shunned because the older men don't want them competing for their "sealed wives" or locked-up women in the church.
Well..that's the party line, I suppose----but new gospel from a hat--Christ in North America---magic underwear---a ban on 'hot drinks' that applies to cold coffee..but not hot chocolate--baptism of the dead---Magic gold Tablets--a belief that all members of the church are descended from Jews, or adopted into the Jewish 'family' ---boys in the Priesthood at age 12...just boys, of course---3 heavens---Godhood for the faithful----well...just not for me.Regarding Joseph Smith and the "glasslooking" charge see Joseph Smith/Legal issues/1826 court appearance for glasslooking
Regarding Joseph Smith and the Book of Abraham see Book of Abraham/Joseph Smith Papyri
Yes, Jesus told the thief on the cross that "today you will be with me in paradise". Jesus was telling the truth however on that day known as "today" Jesus never went to heaven. He did go to a place called paradise but that was not heaven. Jesus resurrected after 3 days and 3 nights in the tomb.So the thief on the cross. The one Jesus told, today you will be with me in Paradise. Jesus wasn't telling the truth about that? That man didn't get to heaven after all because he didn't fulfill your requirement of baptism? Luke 23:43
Nah...repentance is overblown when it comes to picking messiahs. So many religions started out with a man, proclaimed a messiah, with a great message, and an unoriginal back story. A lucky few made it to Big Time.So you are equating our lord and savior, Jesus Christ, with the convicted con man, Joseph Smith?
You should probably repent while you still have the chance you vile heathen.
Nah...repentance is overblown when it comes to picking messiahs. So many religions started out with a man, proclaimed a messiah, with a great message, and an unoriginal back story. A lucky few made it to Big Time.
Jesus was executed as a convicted criminal after all (blasphemy). Joseph Smith was a convicted con man. The key differences between these messiah’s around whom developed some of the World’s largest religions, are the times they existed in. There is very little actual first hand historical information on Jesus, or Appolonius of Tyana, another contemporary sage (who never made it to the the Big Time)...there is considerably more on Mohammed, and for Joseph Smith, all the historical knowledge of a relatively modern era. If he had been born several thousand years ago, most would have been lost in or distorted in the various telling, and probably the Mountain Meadow Massacre completely buried.
Obviously, I’m not a “believer, but I think they all had some pretty good messages. You might make fun of the Mormans but keep in mind they built their values around the importance of family and community, as well as self sufficiency and care for those less able or less fortunate. In an era where women were still “less than” they placed a high value on education that included women.
IMO...the message is more important than the man (never seems to be a woman)...
Jesus...the messiah of the poor, the slaves, the downtrodden, tbe criminals, the powerless, the widows, the children. He saw all the evils, the greed, the wealth disparities of his era and preached against it. Take care care of the less fortunate, turn the other cheek, love God with all your heart, and your neighbor as you would yourself, a better life awaits you. Boy has that message gotten buried in today’s religion where wealth is presumed to be a sign of righteousness and poverty a stigma of moral turpitude. Mohammed’s message had similarities, though born out of a different culture. He saw around him a culture of conspicious greed and displays of wealth, that ignored the plight of the poor, the widows, and children. Seems like messiahs are born out cultural degeneration, to lead us back to better ways...until their message and the culture that sprang from from it become part of the problem.
You did not cogently address a single thing she said---well trained indeed~Moral, and social relativist blather. Congrats, you are a ship with out a sail, and empty vessel. Well trained.
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I follow my own drummer, you follow yoursMoral, and social relativist blather. Congrats, you are a ship with out a sail, and empty vessel. Well trained.
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Why? It's new age brainwash.You did not cogently address a single thing she said---well trained indeed~
No one is saying are equal. The problem with your statement Is that claims of superiority are largely based on what believers claim and believers are often the problem.Why? It's new age brainwash.
Let me summarize that massive lump of excrement;
All major religions, and the prophets of those religions, carry a similar message which is love, compassion, and forgiveness.
Therefore all religions are equal, and nothing, and no one, is greater than anyone, or anything else.
New Age...Relativist...mumbo jumbo.
It is smug, vacuous, excuse making, culture destroying, horse shit.
No one is saying are equal. The problem with your statement Is that claims of superiority are largely based on what believers claim and believers are often the problem.
Nah...repentance is overblown when it comes to picking messiahs. So many religions started out with a man, proclaimed a messiah, with a great message, and an unoriginal back story. A lucky few made it to Big Time.
And where does that claim equality?