Zone1 Beauty Culture and Works-Based Religions: Mormons and Amish

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You may not think "Utah Curls", pictured below on the case of "Secret Lives of Mormon Wives", and Amish dress have much in common. But they do, strangely. Both religions are an offshoot of works-based faiths.

A works-based Christian faith might not expressly state that the way to God is to "be good", but they operate that way. "Utah curls" signals that you are an attractive wife and mother, with her husband, home and children in such good care that she can afford to maintain expensive hair extensions. Meanwhile, the modest Amish woman of the same age is careful to put her clothes on correctly, including tucking her long hair into a cap. Both are outward signs that the woman is "good".

Taking this approach undermines the very heart of Christianity, which asserts that there is NOTHING you can do to earn your way to God--He did it, He earned the way, because He's the only one who could.

The world loves all kinds of "religious signs" though, which has been the mark of the "religious" since the beginning.....

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You may not think "Utah Curls", pictured below on the case of "Secret Lives of Mormon Wives", and Amish dress have much in common. But they do, strangely. Both religions are an offshoot of works-based faiths.
A symbol of who they are and what they stand for is not "works-based" faith. The Amish have not forgotten that modesty is a virtue, and dress appropriately. They value the privacy of the body.

Take up your cross and follow me is a central Gospel teaching. Just would no one object to it as a "works-based" faith, neither are the examples above "work-based."
 
A symbol of who they are and what they stand for is not "works-based" faith. The Amish have not forgotten that modesty is a virtue, and dress appropriately. They value the privacy of the body.

Take up your cross and follow me is a central Gospel teaching. Just would no one object to it as a "works-based" faith, neither are the examples above "work-based."

The Amish have rules made by their local leaders, their bishops, that have nothing whatsoever to do with God's law. That is: buttons only, no zippers. And lots of other very specific rules for dress. Rules are the definition of a works-based faith.

Mormons actually believe husbands and wives will live forever on their own planet for eternity, and the husband "allows" the wife to go with him to heaven. Lots and lots of rules there, again not Biblical.
 
The Amish have rules made by their local leaders, their bishops, that have nothing whatsoever to do with God's law. That is: buttons only, no zippers. And lots of other very specific rules for dress. Rules are the definition of a works-based faith.

Mormons actually believe husbands and wives will live forever on their own planet for eternity, and the husband "allows" the wife to go with him to heaven. Lots and lots of rules there, again not Biblical.
LDS do not believe that works are what saves us. But we do believe that Jesus requires us to do good works and that he may not save us if we do not do good works. Here are some biblical verses that promote that we should do good works:


Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Matthew 5:16
16. Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father which is in heaven.

Ephesians 2:8-10
8 .For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
9. Not of works, lest any man should boast.
10. For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

James 2:17-26

17. Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18. Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works.
19. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
20. But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead?
21. Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?
22. Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect?
23. And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God.
24. Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.
25. Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way?
26. For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

Titus 2:14
14. Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

LDS do not believe in a closed cannon or that the heaven's are closed to continuing revelation. We believe the words of the Bible but we also believe that God has revealed other teachings and revelation and prophesies which are included in our canon of scripture which consists of the Bible, the Book of Mormon, The Doctrine and Covenants and the Pearl of Great Price. We also believe that we currently have apostles and prophets on the earth today which can receive direct revelation from God for the people of the world and his church. One such revelation has revealed the doctrine of eternal marriage which is found in Doctrine and Covenants 132.
 
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You may not think "Utah Curls", pictured below on the case of "Secret Lives of Mormon Wives", and Amish dress have much in common. But they do, strangely. Both religions are an offshoot of works-based faiths.

A works-based Christian faith might not expressly state that the way to God is to "be good", but they operate that way. "Utah curls" signals that you are an attractive wife and mother, with her husband, home and children in such good care that she can afford to maintain expensive hair extensions. Meanwhile, the modest Amish woman of the same age is careful to put her clothes on correctly, including tucking her long hair into a cap. Both are outward signs that the woman is "good".

Taking this approach undermines the very heart of Christianity, which asserts that there is NOTHING you can do to earn your way to God--He did it, He earned the way, because He's the only one who could.

The world loves all kinds of "religious signs" though, which has been the mark of the "religious" since the beginning.....

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Within two centuries will a high percentage of the USA and the world go relatively "Amish?"


5. The Future of the U.S. and the World​

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The image of the future that they gave me then, and it was their image, not one that I created, surprised me. My image had previously been sort of like Star Wars, where everything was space age, plastics, and technology.

The future that they showed me was almost no technology at all. What everybody, absolutely everybody, in this euphoric future spent most of their time doing was raising children. The chief concern of people was children, and everybody considered children to be the most precious commodity in the world.

And when a person became an adult, there was no sense of anxiety, nor hatred, nor competition.

There was this enormous sense of trust and mutual respect. If a person, in this view of the future, became disturbed, then the community of people all cared about the disturbed person falling away from the harmony of the group. Spiritually, through prayer and love, the others would elevate the afflicted person.

What people did with the rest of their time was that they gardened, with almost no physical effort. They showed me that plants, with prayer, would produce huge fruits and vegetables.

People, in unison, could control the climate of the planet through prayer. Everybody would work with mutual trust and the people would call the rain, when needed, and the sun to shine.

Animals lived with people, in harmony.

People, in this best of all worlds, weren’t interested in knowledge; they were interested in wisdom. This was because they were in a position where anything they needed to know, in the knowledge category, they could receive simply through prayer. Everything, to them, was solvable. They could do anything they wanted to do.

In this future, people had no wanderlust, because they could, spiritually, communicate with everyone else in the world. There was no need to go elsewhere. They were so engrossed with where they were and the people around them that they didn’t have to go on vacation. Vacation from what? They were completely fulfilled and happy.

 
Only if the zombie apocalypse actually happens
Go ahead and explain that one if you please.

The Amish represent, at some level, devotion to the basics of Christianity.
 
Go ahead and explain that one if you please.

The Amish represent, at some level, devotion to the basics of Christianity.
The only way America would revert to an agrarian, low-technology, Amish-ish lifestyle is in the event of a massive apocalypse that destroys civilization like in The Walking Dead
 
Taking this approach undermines the very heart of Christianity, which asserts that there is NOTHING you can do to earn your way to God--He did it, He earned the way, because He's the only one who could.
The New Testament and Old Testament are replete with scriptures that show you have an obligation to keep the commandments.

That does not bypass the need for the Savior.

What the Savior did for us was take something we could not do (atone for our sins) and create something we could do (repent and receive forgiveness through his blood). He paid the debt and took upon himself our sins. Now, we must accept his gift. Accepting is a WHOLE LOT MORE than just saying you accept.

Such an idea seems like slap to the face of Diety.
 
The only way America would revert to an agrarian, low-technology, Amish-ish lifestyle is in the event of a massive apocalypse that destroys civilization like in The Walking Dead
People do it all the time now. Not in great numbers. But they do it.

We'll see what happens as things get more and more stupid.
 
People do it all the time now. Not in great numbers. But they do it.

We'll see what happens as things get more and more stupid.
He asked whether a high percentage of Americans are going to “go Amish” in the relatively near future

I stand by my assertion that they only possible way that could ever happen is in the wake of complete social and economic collapse
 
The only way America would revert to an agrarian, low-technology, Amish-ish lifestyle is in the event of a massive apocalypse that destroys civilization like in The Walking Dead

The wealthiest of the wealthy may not be entirely finished with Dr. Tony yet, [or somebody much like him]?!

www.TheyLied.ca/
 
Are you sure that we aren't nearly there already?

We are rather hypnotized by our phones and all the various types of entertainment.
I’m talking about actual, end of the world as we know it stuff

People aren’t going to abandon modern technology, being able to wear what they want, smoking, drinking, etc. unless circumstances literally force them to

At least not in any significant numbers
 
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Wow, that site just looks like a poorly funded nexus of hot nonsense

That is what the owners of CNN and Canada's CBC want the majority of us to believe. Then again, even FOX went along with the majority of what was done.
 
That is what the owners of CNN and Canada's CBC want the majority of us to believe. Then again, even FOX went along with the majority of what was done.
K

If your conspiracy theory world is more entertaining than reality, stay in it I guess
 
K

If your conspiracy theory world is more entertaining than reality, stay in it I guess

During C o v i d 1 9 I knew that Dr. Robert Malone was attempting to tell the truth whereas Dr. Tony was the highest paid bureaucrat in North America. His experiments on Beagles proved that he was pretty much devoid of empathy or compassion. I suspect that people above Dr. Tony were setting him up for his own psychological tests that went even further than the Stanley Milgram Ph. D. experiment when they got him to do the research on Beagles. When Dr. Tony obeyed, they knew that they had their guy for C o v i d 1 9.

The Milgram experiment, conducted by Yale psychologist Stanley Milgram in 1961-1962, showed that a majority of ordinary people (65% in the initial study) would obey authority figures, administering seemingly dangerous electric shocks to others when instructed. It demonstrated that situational factors and obedience to authority can override moral conscience, highlighting the power of social influence.
Wikipedia +4
Key Aspects of the Experiment:
  • Purpose: To measure obedience to authority figures and understand how ordinary people could commit inhumane acts, particularly in the context of WWII.
  • Procedure:Participants (the "teacher") were instructed by an authority figure (the "experimenter") to deliver electric shocks, ranging from 15 to 450 volts, to a "learner" (an actor) in another room for incorrect answers
    .
    • Results: While 65% of participants continued to the maximum, lethal-sounding
      450
      -volt shock, many did so with extreme stress and protest, proving that pressure from authority causes significant distress.
    • Variations: Obedience dropped when the learner was in the same room (40%) or when the experiment's location was less prestigious (47%).
    • Ethical Concerns: The study is famous for being highly unethical, as it caused intense anxiety for participants and lacked informed consent, although many participants later expressed gratitude for the insight.
 
He asked whether a high percentage of Americans are going to “go Amish” in the relatively near future

I stand by my assertion that they only possible way that could ever happen is in the wake of complete social and economic collapse
O.k.

I would agree for the most part. However, I think it will be more an economic collapse.
 

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