Zone1 Beauty Culture and Works-Based Religions: Mormons and Amish

[HikerGuy83]

Again.

You will only be saved by Jesus "after everything you can do". (Nephi 25:23)

Which is true.

Even the New Testament teaches it.

You can either quit hiding and explain how Matthew 25 condemns groups in all 3 parables (for not being prepared, for not accepting the gift, for not caring for the poor and sullen of the earth) or you can keep spitting out these claims with no context hiding behind a weak and scattered doctrine that not all Christians agree upon.

What's it going to be?

 

[HikerGuy83]

You have a limited Christ; I do not. He wasn't "limited" by their lack of belief; they didn't believe, and were therefore mocking Him--in word, deed, or spirit.

Then you deny the very scriptures you seem to claim as authority for your strange and changing claims.

It says he "could do no might work". Why.....

because of their unbelief.

Easy peasy.

And again: the God you posit does not WANT to do certain things, but MUST due to the decisions of man. Your God is beholden to the whims and fancies of fallen man.

That has never been stated.

What has been said is that it is clear that God would love to save all men. He loves them. He sent his only begotten to die for them. He offers the gift. If they do not accept it, they cannot be saved.

John 3:3 states that if many is not born again, he cannot be saved. Seems like the Savior is calling out the limitation.

God is beholden to the law of Justice. Not man. Man is beholden to the law of Justice.

In the Matthew 25 parables, some people are sent to outer darkness....by God. Did he chose (meaning he could have just as easily save them) to send them or did justice demand it. You won't answer.

If he chose to send them when he could have saved them, why is that? Why would the Eternal Father do that to his children.

You've been asked repeatedly to stop hiding in the shadows and answer that simple question.

 

[HikerGuy83]

That's not my God.

Then you have a false god.

See: Romans 9:22--some will not be saved, for reasons the Sovereign God understands. A hard teaching, but one in which God is still God.

I don't know where that reading came from.

From the KJV

21 Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour?

22 What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:

23 And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

God has power......

22: states that he could shew his wrath, but loves his children and endures with longsuffering those fitted (by themselves through their choices) to destruction.

He stayed the destroying angels as long as he could during the time of Noah. We know this from the Ethiopian Bible. But, the time came where justice could no longer be held off and the flood came. He openly wept in front of Enoch.