Ray From Cleveland
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You should actually read the studies and debates about this correlation. It was established by comparing states and certainly not just NYC. The national decline began before “Mayor Rudy” and effected states regardless of their laws. Violence only declined previously this dramatically when prohibition laws were removed or revised.
Anybody interested can understand this correspondence by studying prostitution, drunkenness and family violence before birth control was legalized (when many poor ethnic women regularly had more than a dozen pregnancies and very short miserable lives). In South America police often have much more draconian law and order policing than in the U.S., but violent crime is endemic.
None of this is an argument against good effective policing or for or against concealed carry weapons laws. But children unwanted by their mothers (and fathers), often growing up miserable and poor, are statistically more likely to become juvenile delinquents and hardened criminals. Would you deny that?
That all depends. There is a link between poverty and crime, but that doesn't mean all single mothers live in poverty, especially today as more and more women become professionals.
What you are claiming is indirect results whereas I'm claiming direct results. The things I listed directly targeted crime. And as I pointed out, abortions soared after Roe and only started to decline in 1981 when the recession hit. I also forgot to mention the tech era where people were getting rich by the thousands every week. The better the economy, the less crime.
When you have an entire state and the largest city in the country attacking crime, it's going to show in the overall crime statistics in the country. Today NYC has a larger population than our ten least populated states combined. That's a hell of a lot of people for just one city.