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Well I did grow up in Culver City / Beverly Hills and Live In West Hollywood
The Democrat shooting up the GOP Congressional Baseball practice got stale in less than 48 hours
In some respects I kind of understand this point. The Bible is quite clear where God stands in relationship to gay people. He seems to hate them as much as regular people do. And HE MADE THEM!
I understand how people like to cling to their faith and it brings them comfort. We always re-craft God into the image of a being most amenable to our lives. That's why Conservative American Christians can also love "the sword" (guns).
The Bible provides good pious people with lots of reason to give into the hate that burns in their souls. Should the gay people who want to believe in God simply re-craft God the way the pious conservative Christians have? The pious conservative Christians often deny MOST of the rules in the Old Testament except those that allow them to hate people. Those are sacred and eternal.
The biggest tell is when they claim they "love the sinner but hate the sin". That's a loophole they think God will "buy". Hopefully God is pretty gullible.
"The Bible is quite clear, and let me utterly misquote it to demonstrate my point."
You twinkos
would have marginally more credibility if you spent a little of that energy for mindlessly hating Christians on learning something about them.
I'm very sorry that religion gets in the way of your megalomania, but please stop wasting everyone's time with your, "I hate God and I think that makes me smart!" passed off as an argument.
The difference is homosexuality is abominable to God, so it causes His hate and disgust. An equal comparison is idolatry and false gods, not heterosexual cheating while they are all mortal sins.Imagine that you are a heterosexual but for one reason or another, you cannot find a suitable wife. If you give in to your normal and natural sexual urges and find women willing to copulate with you, those acts are seriously sinful acts...in the view of the Roman Catholic church, "mortal sins."
The same applies to homosexuals. They have no moral right to take sexual satisfaction in people with whom they are not married.
Being a homosexual is a morally neutral thing. Everyone is inclined to sin, and that inclination itself is not sinful. It is homosexual acts that are sinful.
A pox on anyone who says that any Church "hates" homosexuals for what they are. That is bullshit.
No one choses homosexuality. Homosexuality is a genetically (and/or in early childhood acquired) stable disposition of behavior which will be activated in adolescence. In case of male homosexuality exists not any known therapy which is able to change this disposition of behavior. In case of female homosexuality seems to exist additionally a variant which is able to change from homosexuality to heterosexuality. Nevertheless this is never anybodies free will - what also implies homosexuality per se never had been able to be a sin.
What is often called on wrong reason "homosexual behavior" in case of sins means practically always only anal sex. There are good reasons for why this is a sin (it is not even real sex at all!). But this has not really to to do with a hetero- or homosexual disposition of behavior. In case of homosexuality and anal-sex this means for example also that a man is using another man quasi "like a woman" - what also not makes a big sense in case of a pure male homosexuality. And a man who is doing anal sex with a woman is a sinner too. Asides of spiritual sin this behavior is also dangerous - for example by causing infections.
So: In case of homosexuality nearly no one has any choice. In case of the own sexual behavior - independent from homo-. and/or heterosexuality - is able to exist a sinny behavior - but this has often nearly nothing to do with this what the most people think about sexuality. And specially the opinions about sexuality in the English speaking world show often an astonishing intolerance in the eyes of the members of other cultures. Tenderness for example is never a real problem.
So whatever your form of inborn sexuality might be: This is absolutelly not any problem, because this came from god or from the world before of your existence. Whether you love your form of sexuality or whether you hate what you do is also unimportant. Everyone is welcome! Ask other homosexuals what kind of experience they made with Christians and I'm very sure most homosexuals found nice Christians. Blackrook is more an exception under Christians - if he is a Christian at all, what I personally doubt sometimes or better to say: I doubt this nearly always when I read what he writes. Sure Christians are also able to be angry and/or to be harsh - but only on reason of love. To try to exclude someone from the Christian church or to try to hold closed the doors of our church is not love. You are welcome! However god and the world made you! We will help you - as good as we can - to become how god thought you to be when he made you: a wonderful happy child of god.
It was not at all uncommon for newly converted rulers to convert at the point of a sword.
But at least they give them a chance. God in the OT didn't bother with the "conversion" step and just had the Israelites slaughter entire peoples.
I can't know for sure - and don't really care either way - but I'm betting you probably also like to rail against the existence of God because "how can there be a God if there's so much evil? Why doesn't He do something?"
The Canaanites spent 400 years engaging in incest, bestiality, ritual prostitution, and infant sacrifice. Just as an example.
1Sam 15:3. "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass."
Now granted, Saul didn't end up slaughtering EVERYONE, he kept some alive. God got very angry with him for not following orders.
Of course the book of Joshua is filled with several other examples of entire cities being slaughtered by the Israelites.
Like Joshua 6:21. And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
Maybe you should actually TALK to a gay person.
For Bisexuals it’s all Choice
Yeah, in America they can also be beaten nearly to death and tied to a fence post and die from exposure and the beating.
Don't go looking for motes before you clear the beams.
That was in the 1990s you have any newer horror stories ?
I was at an author event and a lesbian read to us all the passages of the Bible that explicitly condemn homosexuality.
It made me realize that one who lives the homosexual lifestyle must reject Christianity or must, at the very least, admit he is a sinner in need of forgiveness.
But it seems that many homosexuals are unwilling to do either. They demand Christian churches go against explicit Biblical teachings and accept homosexuality. This is creating a crisis that is affecting all the Christian churches.
My prediction is this: Soon, every Christian church except the Catholic Church will cave to the homosexuals.
In some respects I kind of understand this point. The Bible is quite clear where God stands in relationship to gay people. He seems to hate them as much as regular people do. And HE MADE THEM!
I understand how people like to cling to their faith and it brings them comfort. We always re-craft God into the image of a being most amenable to our lives. That's why Conservative American Christians can also love "the sword" (guns).
The Bible provides good pious people with lots of reason to give into the hate that burns in their souls. Should the gay people who want to believe in God simply re-craft God the way the pious conservative Christians have? The pious conservative Christians often deny MOST of the rules in the Old Testament except those that allow them to hate people. Those are sacred and eternal.
The biggest tell is when they claim they "love the sinner but hate the sin". That's a loophole they think God will "buy". Hopefully God is pretty gullible.
Baloney. Born a male or a female, you choose to bump uglies with your own sex its not predetermined.
There is no evidence for this. Homosexuality has no genetic or environmental causes.
It's much more complex and the thinking today is that it's more an emotional craving instead of a sexual one. This is why you get carried away with your own bullshit.
This is ignorant
You still trying to peddle the Mathew Sheppard myth??? lol that got blown up a long time ago as fake news. Spreading lies won't do you any good here.
People who use ridiculous euphemisms like 'Gay' obviously know they have something to hide. You talk to the disgusting fetishists; I have no desire to converse with sick fetishists .
