Supreme Court Oral Arguments in the Birthright Citizenship Case

[MisterBeale]

You are missreading it of course.

This isn't a written documents, is the transcript of a speach.

You can't chop it up you have to read it in context. In the speach "foreigners, aliens who belong to", the foreigners aliens are descritive of amabassadors. But some try to do is place and "AND" in between mentally to change the context to "foreigns, aliens, AND those who" changing foreigners and aliens from descriptive of ambassadors to a list of different categories.

But anyone with half an education sees the difference.

WW

You are wrong, there is a comma between "aliens," and "who belong to," indicating that they are two separate articles, not a subset of the same.

 

[MisterBeale]

Since enabling mass migration around the planet is a global deep state agenda, we all know how the court is going to rule. Just as informed folks know Trump hasn't really deported that many more folks than Obama did. Likewise, what Trump has deported is a drop in the bucket compared to how many Biden let in.

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https://archive.ph/mGWYa#selection-4331.1-4337.13

 

[MisterBeale]

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

So "sins of the fathers"?

Invasion Evasion


Canceling an American's vote and stealing his job, his tax money, and his kids' future. If no one should be punished for his father's crime, no one should benefit from it either. For the same reason (and it's relevant because the RichKid Reich is behind this White Replacement), no one should benefit from his father's success, through unearned inheritance. You're using one-sided logic.

Also, if someone buys a stolen car for which the thief supplies stolen or forged ownership papers, does he get to keep the car because he bought it in good faith?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Illegal immigrants faked over 7 million votes?

A republic gives us representation without participation. We, the people, never voted on the Sick Sixties' Voting Rights Act or their Immigration Act. In a country with self-determination, all such important issues should be put on national referendums. Therefore, much of the legalized electorate is invalid.

 

[pknopp]

Invasion Evasion


Canceling an American's vote and stealing his job, his tax money, and his kids' future. If no one should be punished for his father's crime, no one should benefit from it either. For the same reason (and it's relevant because the RichKid Reich is behind this White Replacement), no one should benefit from his father's success, through unearned inheritance. You're using one-sided logic.

Also, if someone buys a stolen car for which the thief supplies stolen or forged ownership papers, does he get to keep the car because he bought it in good faith?

So again, you believe in "sins of the father"? Just wanting to make clear.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

No one depends on the votes from illegals. THAT is made up out of whole cloth by Trumpers. There is ZERO evidence that democrats are getting illegal's to illegally vote, let alone to vote for them.

That is 100% fake news, and 100% unprovable....because it is a made up lie.

Nepo, Open the Gate for the Peon

Whatever. The Netrix obscures the real issue, which is that we have no say on whom we allow to vote anyway. That's like members of a club not being allowed to vote on new members, leaving that to the untrustworthy officers of the club, who had pretended to like us only so they could betray us.

Forcing civil rights for the uncivilized on us and opening the Come One, Come All immigration floodgates set the stage for benefits and sanctuary for the White Replacement invaders.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

There is no one not actually aware of this.

Bringing Families Together Back Where They Came From

Twisting words again. The only jurisdiction the anchor clankers are under is the jurisdiction of ICE to deport them. Only Americans have civil rights, so invaders and their droppings cannot be "innocent until proven guilty." It is up to them to immediately prove that they and their junior varsity belong here.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

And they were to stupid to have those 7 Million votes not vote the down ballot races to give Biden a DEM Senate amd House.

Those sneaky bastard, 7 Million fraudulant votes for President but they did case them for Congress races.

But they were smart enough to pull off such a massive fraud without leaving evidence for only one race.

WW

Loopholes Are the Nooses That Hang Us

All this quibbling about definitions in an intentionally confusing government document is a distraction from the Constitutionazi fact that the decision of the majority of Americans is non-binding. We wouldn't be arguing about whether the illegals voted if they weren't here at all, being deported even before their backs dry out.

 

[Rawley]

No, we are required to do this because this is what the Constitution clearly says.

Of course back then, there were no "illegal immigrants" because if you got here, you were in.

No reason to punish kids for what their parents did.

Why reward them for their parent's illegality?

Shit, we'd be blessed if we had more Chinese-Americans.

Great more spies for a despotic communist regime. Just what we need. Woo Hoo

 

[Unkotare]

A republic gives us representation without participation. We, the people, never voted on the Sick Sixties' Voting Rights Act or their Immigration Act. In a country with self-determination, all such important issues should be put on national referendums. Therefore, much of the legalized electorate is invalid.

Feel free to leave.

 

[Rawley]

Domicile was used and mentioned a lot in the Ark court case for purely their situation of existence, the facts in their case alone, and was not used as a test for citizenship, but the decision was solely on the constitution's two tests mentioned in bold above....

Sure, mention is it once for "their situation of existence," but mention it 28 times?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

So again, you believe in "sins of the father"?

Hearts and Mines

The anchor is the sin. In fact, it's more like a time-bomb.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

" Subject-To Versus Subject-Of "

* Retarded Reap Consequences Of Their Own Stupidity *

The us public at large , including us jurisprudence and political institutions are too stupid to explain or apply linguistic meaning to the term thereof ( there of ) , and choose to abridge us 14th amendment clause to a simpleton analysis of " subject to the jurisdiction " .

All within us official domain are subject to us jurisdiction and entitled to equal protection of negative liberties , however not all within us official domain are subjects of us jurisdiction and entitled to positive liberty .

Citizenship is a positive liberty of endowment , it is not a negative liberty of protection .

Having watched enough of the senate hearings in advance of pleadings about birthright ( sic ) citizenship before scotus , both sides presented imbecilic subject-to arguments and completely ignored subject-of analysis , so the consequences of expedience for political correctness and excuses from ignorance will result in the obvious .

All Republics Go Bananas

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Democrats aren't bringing illegals here out of kindness.

They're bringing them here to use them. That's human-trafficking.

They have them voting for them and stealing from taxpayers with them.

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The Sum of the Squirrels on Both Sides of the Aisle Equals the Squirrel of the Hippopotamus

And Republicans want them for cheap labor; that's why they talk tough and do nothing effective.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

They DO NOT HAVE ILLEGALS VOTING FOR THEM....that is a LIE, unproven, lacks any evidence of fact.

Maybe they understand that Americans stopped having children at the rate needed to first take care of and then replace ....the baby boomer population to keep the economy moving forward and this is for some kind of financial soundness needed by our country for our future??? To them, it is not voters that are needed, but people ....to keep the economic engine going forward in America???

Maybe they simply don't viscerally hate, people of a different color or nationality than them, or hate the poor or strangers with less than them, and simply want these other humans to be treated HUMANELY, when deporting them instead of with joyful cruelty? I'm in this last group.

Treason Is Not an Employer's Right

Some Xenos Need to Be Phobed. Dial 9/11.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

And....? The constitution's 14th has only two tests to meet....
one is Born on American soil,
and the other is being under the jurisdiction there of...where only those with foreign diplomatic immunity children born here are exempt.

Domicile was used and mentioned a lot in the Ark court case for purely their situation of existence, the facts in their case alone, and was not used as a test for citizenship, but the decision was solely on the constitution's two tests mentioned in bold above....

Spy-Right Citizenship?

Criminal diplomats and their children are under the jurisdiction of Americans who have been assigned to deport them.

 

[mudwhistle]

The Sum of the Squirrels on Both Sides of the Aisle Equals the Squirrel of the Hippopotamus

And Republicans want them for cheap labor; that's why they talk tough and do nothing effective.

Democrats want them for their votes.....and cheap labor.

It wasn't always like this, however.

 

[Chuz Life]

We already know what the authors intended Chuz, and have known for the past 150 years since written, and confirmed with precedent cases early on and since then.

This was just pouring tax payer money down the drain from the get go...a frivolous attempt at rewriting our constitution.

Prior to the 14th ....under US law (English common law of jus soli)ALL PERSONS born on our soil were born citizens with the only exceptions being children of Slaves, and Native Americans with treaty governance....who were addressed separately shortly thereafter by Congress.

After the 14th, it became ALL PERSONS born on our soil including children born by slaves.

If you have time, spend some more time learning our history....it's interesting and enlightening!

The debate was recorded, and it was not unanimously decided that even criminals who enter the nation illegally would be granted citizenship for any of their children born here.

 

[Unkotare]

Hearts and Mines

The anchor is the sin. In fact, it's more like a time-bomb.

A baby is a blessing not a "sin," and there is no "anchor."