CDZ Justifiable Reasons for Abortion

[SaxxyBlues]

PS one women's experience with abortion shouldn't involve another's. Each one is different, has their own circumstances, and in America legal.

 

[Leo123]

It's the woman's choice. If she chooses to have an abortion, she is the one who must make the decision and live with it on a very intimate basis. If I were dating, I'd want to know if she ever had an abortion and why.

 

[2aguy]

Are rape, incest, age, life of a woman, inheritable diseases, reason for abortion? Have you ever been sexually assaulted? Did your brother have sex with your daughter? Have you ever been or know a woman that had to choose between her child or herself? Do your children stand to inherit disease? Please choose yes or no on the poll. All comments are appreciated.

Life of the mother. You might persuade me with horrible illnesses for the baby...but that would be a tough sell.

Rape and incest? How do the anti-death penalty people support giving the death penalty to the innocent victim of these crimes?

 

[2aguy]

In any case, it is up to the woman.

So...all murder should be up to the one committing the murder?

 

[2aguy]

Those who feel that pregnancy as a result of rape should be aborted are just not serious. Or, they are lying. I can think of two women held as prisoners since childhood. They were raped repeatedly and forced to give birth to the rapist's children. Not one of the pro abortionists has called for these children to be aborted. They have capitulated. If it true that these victims of rape can be forced to have these children and forced to raise them, why can't all rape victims be forced to do the same?

They do not have to raise the children, victims of rape and incest can give the babies up for adoption.

There is a show on TLC called long lost family.......they reunite mothers and children given up for adoption......several of the stories involve women who were the victims of rape and incest who gave the children up for adoption and now, decades later, reunite with those children....... it gives the lie to the rape and incest excuse for abortion.....

About The Show - Long Lost Family | TLC

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[SaxxyBlues]

I am not a vessel for others to use. I am a whole, caring, intimitate, human being. I do not have to give other people babies cause they see it right and fit. I saw it for what it was rape. A mean violent thing to do. Your body, your baby. My body is not yours.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Those who feel that pregnancy as a result of rape should be aborted are just not serious. Or, they are lying. I can think of two women held as prisoners since childhood. They were raped repeatedly and forced to give birth to the rapist's children. Not one of the pro abortionists has called for these children to be aborted. They have capitulated. If it true that these victims of rape can be forced to have these children and forced to raise them, why can't all rape victims be forced to do the same?

Who held them captive? Did you try to do anything about the fact they were held? Sounds like something out of a third world country. I'd like to hear more about who they were and the circumstances of their captivity. Shady example in my opinion.

How could you not know that Amanda Berry and two other women were held captive by Angel Castro. Berry had a daughter, against her will. That daughter is still alive.

Jaycee Dugard was held captive since she was 13 years old. She was repeatedly raped and forced to give birth to two children, Angel and Starlet. Both daughters are alive to this very day. Anyone who believes that conceptions resulting from rape and not demanding the post birth abortion of these children is certainly a hypocrite.

 

[ColtMadeMenEqual]

Are rape, incest, age, life of a woman, inheritable diseases, reason for abortion? Have you ever been sexually assaulted? Did your brother have sex with your daughter? Have you ever been or know a woman that had to choose between her child or herself? Do your children stand to inherit disease? Please choose yes or no on the poll. All comments are appreciated.

If either parent is a liberal abortion should be mandatory.

 

[badbob85037]

Are rape, incest, age, life of a woman, inheritable diseases, reason for abortion? Have you ever been sexually assaulted? Did your brother have sex with your daughter? Have you ever been or know a woman that had to choose between her child or herself? Do your children stand to inherit disease? Please choose yes or no on the poll. All comments are appreciated.

I'm not God.

 

[there4eyeM]

The choice is for the woman to make.

 

[Jets]

This was always my take on abortion. I’m pro choice. I prefer that women choose life, but understand why they feel they cannot.

 

[Chuz Life]

This was always my take on abortion. I’m pro choice. I prefer that women choose life, but understand why they feel they cannot.

Do you claim to be a supporter of children's rights too?

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Flatulence Issued To Compel Others For A Response To Pervasive Stupidity "

* Oh Bother *

Do you claim to be a supporter of children's rights too?

Do you know that by definition a child has been born ?

This must be an easy topic for anti-choice trolls to pitch a fit about and feel justified in lying to get their way , because holding the line on restraint of government spending and stopping the invasion of the west with the numerically over represented to establish socialism and slum hell holes is far less sensible for them to address .

 

[Wyatt earp]

An abortion is between a woman, her Doctor, and her God. It's no business of the hypocritical right.

James 4:17

Sorry murder is our business because it's wrong

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Justifying Nothing "

* Delusion *

James 4:17
Sorry murder is our business because it's wrong

It is not murder and all you do is legitimize suffering through poverty and slums .

 

[Wyatt earp]

" Justifying Nothing "

* Delusion *
It is not murder and all you do is legitimize suffering through poverty and slums .

So you don't know it's murder killing an innocent baby?

You can't justify abortion no matter how hard you try, that kid could be the next Michael Jordan or Einstein

 

[Monk-Eye]

" Aimless Worries "

* Ridiculous Contradiction Of Foolisness Promoting Carnate Versus Innocence *

So you don't know it's murder killing an innocent baby?

A baby babbles and has been born , thus it would have equal protection for having been born , and by statute killing it would be murder .

The constitution stipulates birth as a requirement for equal protection with citizens , and roe v wade set that post viability a state could proscribe abortion , while the ethical basis of empathy , that requires an onset of sentience for sapience and cognitive introspection , parallels the viability time line .

The fetus is the private property of the mother and any laws conjectured to endow a fetus with wrights are in fact offenses against the mother for which applicable elevated penalties may be applied .

* Would Of Could Of Should Of Non Sense *

You can't justify abortion no matter how hard you try, that kid could be the next Michael Jordan or Einstein

Given that an estimated 75% of abortions are elected by those between 0% and 200% of the poverty line , and given the correlation between poverty and low iq , the greater probability is that the individual would end up being a malcontent expressing frustration for an inability to make adequate life choices .

 

[Alan Stallion]

The fetus is the private property of the mother and any laws conjectured to endow a fetus with wrights are in fact offenses against the mother for which applicable elevated penalties may be applied .

"The fetus is the private property of the mother" is equivalent to "The slave is the private property of the slave-owner."
I reject the idea of persons as property.

Given that an estimated 75% of abortions are elected by those between 0% and 200% of the poverty line , and given the correlation between poverty and low iq , the greater probability is that the individual would end up being a malcontent expressing frustration for an inability to make adequate life choices .

So we execute somebody for the potential of poverty? Since when is poverty a crime worthy of execution?
So we execute somebody for the potential of becoming a "low iq" person? Since when is "low iq" a crime worthy of execution?

If somebody goes around and murders all the homeless in a city for the "crime" of poverty, should be treat such a person as a hero or evil-doer?

What kind of a society executes a person before they have committed any kind of wrong-doing? Not a civilized one in my book. Who are the real malcontents?

 

[Monk-Eye]

" No Consolation Prize "

* Dimming Brilliance *

"The fetus is the private property of the mother" is equivalent to "The slave is the private property of the slave-owner."
I reject the idea of persons as property.

And yet such a supposition contradicts itself by promoting that the mother is a slave to the fetus .

The elements of self ownership ( free roam , free association , progeny ) and self determination ( private property , willful intents - contracts ) are core elements of individualism .

The mother and not the government is responsible for her self ownership , that is to decide when , if , or how to pass on her genetic identity through her offspring to acquire an after life , for a chance at eternal life .

* Quantum Leap Expectations *

So we execute somebody for the potential of poverty? Since when is poverty a crime worthy of execution?
So we execute somebody for the potential of becoming a "low iq" person? Since when is "low iq" a crime worthy of execution?
If somebody goes around and murders all the homeless in a city for the "crime" of poverty, should be treat such a person as a hero or evil-doer?
What kind of a society executes a person before they have committed any kind of wrong-doing? Not a civilized one in my book. Who are the real malcontents?

There is not a bridge of thought from elective abortion of a fetus that is without constitutional protections to the execution of citizens that do have constitutional protections , or to the execution of individuals who have equal protections with a citizen for having met a basic criteria of birth , irrespective of their level of intelligence .

However , there are very real world consequences for being outnumbered by those incapable of managing themselves and much less capable of managing others .

 

[Alan Stallion]

And yet such a supposition contradicts itself by promoting that the mother is a slave to the fetus .

The elements of self ownership ( free roam , free association , progeny ) and self determination ( private property , willful intents - contracts ) are core elements of individualism .

The mother and not the government is responsible for her self ownership , that is to decide when , if , or how to pass on her genetic identity through her offspring to acquire an after life , for a chance at eternal life .

You can justify the murder of post-birth babies with that logic. The "mother" can "gain" self ownership, individualism, and independence by killing her offspring. Murder is murder.

I support equal rights. Mother & child. Both are to be protected. You support the slave-owner's mentality. You can do whatever you want with your property, even termination.

There is not a bridge of thought from elective abortion of a fetus that is without constitutional protections to the execution of citizens that do have constitutional protections , or to the execution of individuals who have equal protections with a citizen for having met a basic criteria of birth .

I have yet to find a copy of the constitution that validates the erroneous and out-right evil Roe v. Wade and Doe v. Bolton rulings by seven men in black robes who should know better than to make law from the bench and violate civil rights, which they did.

"No person shall be... deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law" - Amendment V
"Nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty of property, without due process of law" - Amendment XIV