How much of the universe will god suffer losing to Satan?

Satan is the opposite to God, not having God's Spirit in that being. Satan made the Universe to be a mess like it is. Satan thinks it is beutiful. Satan used to be called Lucifer. Lucifer was one of the covering cherubs that covered the mercy seat. That fallen being will not identify that beings self, visually seen. That being wants to be worshiped. That being calms no one never saying fear not, don't be afraid, or don't worry when seen as he is. Muhammad saw that being in a cave.

The opposite how?

Satan made the universe?

How much power does Satan have compared to God?
 
The opposite how?

Satan made the universe?

How much power does Satan have compared to God?
None.
God is omnipotent. All of Satan's "power" is an illusion. All power comes from God because He generated it...no one has any except at God's active support and not God's acquiescence.

That includes your ability to draw your next breath.
 
None.
God is omnipotent. All of Satan's "power" is an illusion. All power comes from God because He generated it...no one has any except at God's active support and not God's acquiescence.

That includes your ability to draw your next breath.

So, if Satan has no power, why do people talk about him at all? He's a nothing, he's like you and me.
 
So, if Satan has no power, why do people talk about him at all? He's a nothing, he's like you and me.
Its an often misunderstood anthropomorphism.. later given even more personification by Mazdaism of the Persian Empire. All religions in the world were affected by syncretism with Mazdaism. (Moslem's Sunni vs Shiite is over this)

And it continues today in Christianity.

I really enjoy the John Constantine movies...but they are a complete farce from a misunderstanding of Angels and demons.
 
How much of the universe will god suffer losing to Satan?

Religions posit that in the beginning, there was only a good god. Yin without Yang.

Religions also posit that god created a hell for his loses, in terms of souls.

God calls many but few hear his call, as many wise men have noted. Not that the wise believe in the supernatural. We do not.

Imagine if you will, that the Yahweh Jesus twins had to report for a report card from a better god. Yahweh the horrible, would have to admit to genocide and infanticide and accepting bribes to change his justice. Jesus, although more likable, will also have to admit to that same crime.

The count is on, as you can see, and the twins are losing big time. All a part of god’s plan, I guess.



Gnostic Jesus saves all. He has a universalist policy that is tied to the righteousness of god.

The Christian Jesus is the same as his genocidal father. He has to whine that he could only save a few.

He said he came to cure, but scriptures have him also killing instead of curing.

Just like his vile father. A shame that, as some like Jesus, although most do not like him enough to live as he did.

Satan is though to have lost round one in heaven, but I see Yahweh as the loser as he lost a third of the host.

Round two is all Satan’s, as shown by the religious who mostly follow fascist thinking.

God is said to have the Gold Medal for all things, but he is sure a loser when it comes to making good souls.

I am pleased that the Gnostic God makes all souls good. He is not the loser Yahweh is.

Do you hope Jesus wins Armageddon, given that he and his twin Yahweh are such immoral gods?

Regards
DL

you make it sound like Satan is somehow on par with god.

God created Satan so he could just as easily kill him off.

The real question is why would a loving creator unleash Satan on his "children"?
 
Its an often misunderstood anthropomorphism.. later given even more personification by Mazdaism of the Persian Empire. All religions in the world were affected by syncretism with Mazdaism. (Moslem's Sunni vs Shiite is over this)

And it continues today in Christianity.

I really enjoy the John Constantine movies...but they are a complete farce from a misunderstanding of Angels and demons.

It seems like they want to have this big evil to scare people, but they also want God to be the only God.

So they create something that is big, evil and powerful when talking about wanting to scare, but is a pathetic loser with no power when talking about God.
 
So, if Satan has no power, why do people talk about him at all? He's a nothing, he's like you and me.
Within each of us there exists a personal "Satan" that desires for us to disobey God and betray those around us with sinful/selfish actions. Everything from self righteousness and condemnation of others to lying and stealing.
And since it's our own personal creation it is always extremely deceptive (for those of us wanting to do as God desires...for the rest of humanity...meh...they don't care)
 
Within each of us there exists a personal "Satan" that desires for us to disobey God and betray those around us with sinful/selfish actions. Everything from self righteousness and condemnation of others to lying and stealing.
And since it's our own personal creation it is always extremely deceptive (for those of us wanting to do as God desires...for the rest of humanity...meh...they don't care)

Are you trying to suggest Satan isn't Satan then?

That Satan is merely another word for "evil" and that Satan actually has not power at all and isn't a thing at all?
 
So, if Satan has no power, why do people talk about him at all? He's a nothing, he's like you and me.
He's called the "god of this world." "The prince of the power of the air."

He infects the mind of anyone who does not have the Holy Spirit.

He rules over ALL NATIONS to the degree that they reject GOD as their king
 
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It seems like they want to have this big evil to scare people, but they also want God to be the only God.

So they create something that is big, evil and powerful when talking about wanting to scare, but is a pathetic loser with no power when talking about God.
Scriptures are not exactly the easiest reading material... never has been. Hebrew is a metaphoric language with pictographic alphabet with a phonetic component.
It also suffices as their numbering system.

But the Bible is also written in a poetic fashion in most places.
Then adopted by cultures of the Roman empire that had no real training (except by a few) in understanding what was written and why it was written in the way it was written....then became disused again in favor of commentaries and vast amounts of people were illiterate at the same time. Until the time of the Reformation...where knowing the scriptures became important once again... except now it's over 1100 years after the latest scriptures were written and cultures had completely shifted.

Then with the advent of the printing press (1400AD) people read the scriptures flatly without regard for all the requisite skills needed to understand scriptures...

Today though tradition plays a heavy influence in denominational differences and Christian mythology instead of actually reading the scriptures with proper hermeneutics. Hermeneutics is the skill of blending the arts and sciences together to decipher the scriptures.
And it is a heady study...but usually it is the least educated people who gravitate towards faith. Most of the "educated crowd" tend to be too prideful to actually want anything to do with God. (Human nature sucks in so many ways)

So when looking at this situation if you were to assess that God doesn't act in His best interests or very efficiently to gain as many people as possible... you would be almost correct. Just like you might not give a second thought to deleting a line of code from a program you are writing on a computer, God has no compunction about deleting people. Only accepting the lines that "work well with others" .
 
None of it. Zero, nada nothing. Satan and the lost will be burned up. Lost will look like a lake of fire. Satan and the false prophet are tossed into that lake.
So hell was never a real concept, and none ever go to hell and we all get to heaven.

Ok.

Thanks.

Regards
DL
 
None.
God is omnipotent. All of Satan's "power" is an illusion. All power comes from God because He generated it...no one has any except at God's active support and not God's acquiescence.

That includes your ability to draw your next breath.
So it is the power of Yahweh that powers/creates all sins. Right?

Regards
DL
 
you make it sound like Satan is somehow on par with god.

God created Satan so he could just as easily kill him off.

The real question is why would a loving creator unleash Satan on his "children"?

On par? No.

Where the Earth and man are concerned, Satan was given dominion over us.

If not, the temptation of Jesus was a complete lie.

It is to Christians to decide which biblical lies they want to believe.

You say " him " for Satan, when the Christian version of Satan is of a female.

In the Christian dogma, of Adam's sin being a happy fault and necessary to god, Satan becomes a gift and not a curse.

Christians cannot seem to make up their minds about sin being good or evil.

Regards
DL
 
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Within each of us there exists a personal "Satan" that desires for us to disobey God and betray those around us with sinful/selfish actions.

That indicates that we have the same type of delusion and personal good God construct within us ass well. Right?

IOWs, we create all of our gods and demons. Right?

Regards
DL
 
He's called the "god of this world." "The prince of the power of the air."

He infects the mind of anyone who does not have the Holy Spirit.

He rules over ALL NATIONS to the degree that they reject GOD as their king
Do genocidal gods make good Kings?

Were Hitler and Stalin also good leaders to you?

Of not, why not, given they have the same character trait as Yahweh?

Regards
DL
 
Do genocidal gods make good Kings?

Were Hitler and Stalin also good leaders to you?

Of not, why not, given they have the same character trait as Yahweh?

Regards
DL
You're pretty messed up, but you'll never see it.

Satan has a good grip on your "mind"

You are creating your own future
 

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