Zone1 Did Satan tell Eve the truth: "You shall NOT surely die?"

Is it true that we humans do not really fully "die?"

  • No, we fully die, just like an animal according to King Solomon.

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Yes, there is a human spirit or soul that DOES NOT DIE!

    Votes: 3 37.5%
  • Other answer, please be specific in a reply.

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • Both "soul" and "body" can be destroyed in Gehenna Fire at the time of the Second Death.

    Votes: 3 37.5%

  • Total voters
    8
Wow!!!!

In my opinion your answer is brilliant and you made me aware of some aspects of this question that I had never read before in my sixty six years. I had a low level of understanding of the idea that this specifically meant "liable to a death penalty?" I kind of knew that... but I had not heard it worded exactly that way before?
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Most Jews are as blinded as the world on this. They make no distinction between Judah and Israel
Judah is one of the 12 tribes So what distinction is there? Your comment makes no sense and has no context.
Judah (Hebrew: יְהוּדָה‎, Modern: Yəhūda, Tiberian: Yŭhūḏā)<a href="Judah (son of Jacob) - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>1<span>]</span></a> was, according to the Book of Genesis, the fourth of the six sons of Jacob and Leah and the founder of the Tribe of Judah of the Israelites. By extension, he is indirectly the eponym of the Kingdom of Judah, the land of Judea, and the word Jew.
 
This is what I struggle with. It explains so much but it leads to some dangerous things.

Are there races that aren't fully Man? Those who sprang from Adam were clearly different.
Civilization didn't occur until Adam.

Is this why Indians had no roads but only trails? Why they carried their stuff on skids and not wheels? Why they never advanced beyond the stone age?
Genesis is an allegory Adam is a metaphor and never existed
 
why would you assume that. The difference between the two is essential in Judaism.
Maybe from a historical perspective. I don't think most Jews believe that the rest of Israel, the other tribal descendants, exists. I believe that most Jews believe they are the only survivors of Israel and are thus entitled to all of the Abrahamic promises. This is somewhat evidenced by the boundaries of the 'proposed' "Greater Israel", which encompasses lands once occupied by the Northern Kingdom.
 
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Wow!!!!

I am of the belief that ISLAMIC and Christian support for the construction of the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex can play an important role in shifting the Economic, Spiritual, Psychological, Political and Emotional "CLIMATE" OF THE MIDDLE EAST........ and also to at least some degree address the issue of stabilization of the climate because water flowing from a new Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex would be good news for ten million Israelis but also for all Jordanians, all Palestinians, all Syrians, all Egyptians and all two billion or so Muslims living in the Middle East BUT......
RUSSIAN ATHEISTS WILL NOT LIKE THE IDEA OF MUSLIMS AND CHRISTIANS SUPPORTING the political freedom and religious freedom for observant Jews to build the Ezekiel chapter forty to forty eight temple complex.

Atheists in Russia and China..... will obviously fight back against the Cash Cow that they have been MILKING FOR DECADES!?


n a August 24, 2006 article entitled, "Russian Footprints", Ion Mihai Pacepa writes:

By the end of the 1960s, the KGB was deeply involved in mass terrorism against Jews, carried out by various Palestinian client organizations. Here are some terrorist actions for which the KGB took credit while I was still in Romania: November 1969, armed attack on the El Al office in Athens, leaving 1 dead and 14 wounded; May 30, 1972, Ben Gurion Airport attack, leaving 22 dead and 76 wounded; December 1974, Tel Aviv movie theater bomb, leaving 2 dead and 66 wounded; March 1975, attack on a Tel Aviv hotel, leaving 25 dead and 6 wounded; May 1975, Jerusalem bomb, leaving 1 dead and 3 wounded; July 4, 1975, bomb in Zion Square, Jerusalem, leaving 15 dead and 62 wounded; April 1978, Brussels airport attack, leaving 12 wounded; May 1978, attack on an El Al plane in Paris, leaving 12 wounded. ... In 1972, the Kremlin decided to turn the whole Islamic world against Israel and the U.S. As KGB chairman Yury Andropov told me, a billion adversaries could inflict far greater damage on America than could a few millions. We needed to instill a Nazi-style hatred for the Jews throughout the Islamic world, and to turn this weapon of the emotions into a terrorist bloodbath against Israel and its main supporter, the United States. No one within the American/Zionist sphere of influence should any longer feel safe.
  • 1970 - Yasser Arafat, the father of modern terrorism:
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    In 1970 the Kremlin became interested in an obscure Arab construction engineer and collector of racecars, named Rahman al-Qudwa. Evidence shows, contrary to later claims, that this "construction engineer" was an Egyptian, born in Cairo during the summer of 1929. Rahman graduated from the University of Cairo and served as an officer in the Egyptian Army during the 1956 Suez campaign. Later he set up a business in Kuwait and made a fortune. He then entered politics, founding a hopelessly small terrorist organization.... According to the former head of Romanian intelligence, Lt. Gen. Ion Mihai Pacepa, one of the highest ranking communist defectors of all time, Rahman al-Qudwa became an important political ally of the communist bloc following the death of Egypt's president, Gamal Abdul Nasser, in 1970. Gen. Pacepa's account of Rahman's intimate relations with the communist bloc is related in a book entitled "Red Horizons."... Rahman al-Qudwa is better known as Yasser Arafat, the chairman of the PLO since 1968 and the president of the Palestinian Authority -- which is now at war with Israel. According to Gen. Pacepa's account, communist dictator Nicolae Ceausescu ordered his people to bring Arafat over to Romania. In late 1970 the chief of Romanian intelligence in Egypt, Gen. Constantine Munteanu, arrived in Bucharest with Arafat in tow. Munteanu had gathered an extensive file on Arafat, which characterized the PLO leader as "so much cleverness, blood, and filth all together in one man." Pacepa says that this was Munteanu's "standard definition of Arafat."
    Given Gen. Munteanu's extensive file, Arafat could not exactly refuse the communist's "friendly" overtures. There is little question that Arafat is fanatically devoted to destroying Israel, and would sell his soul to the devil to gain his devilish ends. Therefore, a compact between Arafat and the Soviet Union via communist Romania was not something that violated any sacred Islamic rule in Arafat's heart. Arafat is no Moslem. His fanaticism is completely secular. But since he operates within the Islamic world, he must sometimes appear as a would-be Muslim liberator. (“Kremlin puppets and how they work,” J.R. Nyquist, October 19, 2000) (read also Our Lady of the Roses prophecy about one who would come out of Egypt...)
  • 1972 - According to Ion Mihai Pacepa, “In 1972, the Kremlin decided to turn the whole Islamic world against Israel and the U.S. As KGB chairman Yury Andropov … [said], a billion adversaries could inflict far greater damage on America than could a few millions. We needed to instill Nazi-style hatred for the Jews throughout the Islamic world, and to turn this weapon … against Israel and its main supporter, the United States.”
  • 1973 - Soviet statements and preparations for an attack against Israel led the Pentagon to order U.S. nuclear forces to the highest state of peacetime readiness. The Joint Chiefs of Staff ordered the 82nd Airborne Division to prepare to head to the Middle East, and additional U.S. naval forces -- including American aircraft carriers -- moved into the Mediterranean, all out of a real and rising concern that the Soviets were about to make an unprecedented military move against Israel.
  • 1982 - Israeli forces battling PLO terrorists in southern Lebanon unexpectedly uncovered a secret but massive cache of Soviet weaponry in deep underground cellars and tunnels. The storehouses contained some 4,000 tons of ammunition, 144 armored vehicles and tanks, 12,500 pieces of small arms, and 515 heavy weapons. Then-Israeli Prime Minister Menachem Begin said that the Russians had prepositioned enough weapons to "equip not five brigades, but five or six [Soviet] divisions," adding that "we shall need literally thousands of trucks to evacuate these weapons from Lebanon."
  • June, 1982 - Russia organizes international terrorist conference: In June of 1982, two hundred forty organizations of eighty countries met in Tripoli for the International Conference of the World Center Resistance to Imperialism, Zionism, Racism, Reaction, and Fascism. The meeting was organized by the Soviet Union and Colonel Qaddafi and resulted in the forming of a committee ultimately consisting of Libya, Cuba, Iran, Syria, and North Korea. Their goal was the establishment of international terrorist training programs to prepare their revolutionaries for the battle against the oppressors, primarily the United States. Professional military personnel were recruited, including experts in all types of modern combat and sabotage, many of them trained in the Soviet Union. the faculty at Manzareih included translators, commandos from North Korea, security experts from Syria, veteran Palestinian terrorists, advisers from Libya, KGB officers fluent in Farsi (the Iranian language), and radical experts from movements all over the world. By 1985 there we as many as eighteen functioning training facilities in Iran training thousands of terrorists. There were special camps for women and suicide fighters as well as the general three-to-six month training sessions for regular recruits. The Iranians even turned airports into academies.... With camps established all over the Middle East and Castro's Cuba clearly destined to be the training capital of the Western hemisphere, the international terrorist machine was in motion. (John Pynchon Holms, Terrorism: Today's Biggest Threat to Freedom, pp. 164-165)
  • 1986 - Stockholm International Peace Research Institute report: Russia had clandestine strategic reserve of several thousand nuclear weapons, as large as Russia's declared force
  • 1990 - Soviets played a critical role in the invasion of Kuwait: The Washington Times reported on August 14, 1990 that Colonel-General Albert Makashov (a Soviet General specializing in tank warfare) arrived in Bagdad two weeks before the Kuwait invasion on July 17, and remained in Iraq until August 13. “The Soviets played a critical role in operational planning, communications, and logistics for the invasion of Kuwait.” (Financial Times, August 8, 1990) The same article stated that the attack on Kuwait “bore all the earmarks of Soviet satellite intelligence.” Also, “The Soviets never have two satellites over the Persian Gulf except in times of war.” COSMOS 2037 was launched a few weeks before the invasion of Kuwait, and then on July 20th COSMOS 2086 was launched and moved into position to view Kuwait on July 28, 1990.
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    September 1991 - Initial report that Russia kept a secret SS-23 nuclear arsenal in violation of treaty:
    When the United States received the first reports about the existence of a secret SS-23 force in September 1991, "it sent an electric shock through the intelligence community," a former intelligence analyst told WND. "The realization that the Soviets had a secret nuclear missile force undermined all our premises about arms control."... The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute estimated in 1986 that the Soviet Union had a clandestine strategic "reserve" force of several thousand weapons, as large as Russia's current declared force, making a mockery of arms control commitments with the United States. (WorldNetDaily, June 5, 2000)
  • 1991 - Russia will remain the one country capable of destroying the U.S. in less than 30 minutes: Colin Powell warned, “Whatever the future state may look like, the land of the czars and commissars, after all is said and done, will still possess by far the strongest military force on the Eurasian land mass. The Soviet Union, now and in the future, will remain the one country capable of destroying the United States in less than 30 minutes.” (American Legion magazine, October 1991, p. 21)
  • 1992 - Russian spy operations increasing around the world: “Russian spy operations against the U.S. have shown little decline following the collapse of the former U.S.S.R. Western intelligence agencies report that Russian spying is on the rise around the world.” (Washington Times, November 15, 1992)
  • 1992 - It is now known that KGB agents infiltrated into the highest levels of government in Eastern bloc countries and former Soviet republics: “It is now known that the KGB infiltrated the independence movements and democracy parties that sprang up around the Soviet Union during the Gorbachev liberalization…. Since many of these parties have now come to power, it means that the KGB agents and informers are represented in the highest levels of government throughout every East bloc country and the former Soviet republics.” (Washington Post, February 11, 1992)
  • Autumn 1992 - Iran buys three nukes from Russia: Iran reportedly purchases three nuclear warheads from the "former" Soviet Union (Read more...) (Read also...)



 
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