For True Believers in Their Bibles Being the Literal Word of God.

[marvin martian]

There's no reason why all Christians shouldn't possess faith enough to allow them to believe that their bibles are the literal and truthful word of their god. To do anything less is to backslide and commit the greatest of sins.

As an example, The Noah's ark story can be reconciled with modern science in several ways. One of which is that the god shrunk all the animals to 1 thousandth size in order to fit them all into the confines of his boat.

Or, the Grand Canyon is proof of the biblical flood and is even claimed to be so at the site.

The Christian god can do anything and everything. It's time for Christians to stop backsliding and come back to relying on their faith. If they don't then they are selling the farm to non-believers.

Fwiw, I am a believer in the truth, no matter where it leads.
To hell or to heaven, I make no excuses for my commitment to facts and reality.

Where is that 40% of Americans who commit to believing creation and rejecting Darwininan evolution? Do they really believe or do they only believe on conditions that can keep them in a comfort zone?

Do you understand what Christians believe in regards to the bible? It doesn't sound like it.

Yes, I understand what they believe. See Answers in Genesis

Those who don't believe the whole schmeer are backsliders and sinners who have strayed from the lord's flock. They can't have half a belief in the god.

You appear to hold the ignorant perspective that Christians believe God wrote the bible. It's a common canard used by folks like you, who have a lot of bigotries towards others.

No, I know that the god didn't write the bible. But those who haven't backslid on their faith also know that it is the liberal word of god.

Are you a believer or are you just a halfway believer when it's convenient for you?
What is it in your bible that you are claiming are lies?

No one besides you (and probably a few of your fellow backwards bigots) believes the bible is the literal word of God.

Real christians don't question their bibles as the literal word of god. If you don't believe then your just a christian when it's convenient for you.

As to your suggestion of what I believe, that has absolutely nothing to do with this topic. If you weren't so blinded by your hate you would already know that I'm an atheist who doesn't believe in any of the christian crap.

I advocate for those who are the real true believers, not conditional believers of your ilk.

As I stated and expected, you're just an anti-Christian bigot trying to ply your old, worn out trope, and it's just sad.

 

[Donald H]

. Marvin, my Downs syndrome friend, we're either true believers in our bibles or we're not. You're a halfway believer who has been frightened off by modern science, due to your weak faith.

This topic is meant for those who have decided to accept the god unconditionally. If you can't do that then it appears we have no disagreement to debate.

 

[ding]

There's no reason why all Christians shouldn't possess faith enough to allow them to believe that their bibles are the literal and truthful word of their god. To do anything less is to backslide and commit the greatest of sins.

As an example, The Noah's ark story can be reconciled with modern science in several ways. One of which is that the god shrunk all the animals to 1 thousandth size in order to fit them all into the confines of his boat.

Or, the Grand Canyon is proof of the biblical flood and is even claimed to be so at the site.

The Christian god can do anything and everything. It's time for Christians to stop backsliding and come back to relying on their faith. If they don't then they are selling the farm to non-believers.

Fwiw, I am a believer in the truth, no matter where it leads.
To hell or to heaven, I make no excuses for my commitment to facts and reality.

Where is that 40% of Americans who commit to believing creation and rejecting Darwininan evolution? Do they really believe or do they only believe on conditions that can keep them in a comfort zone?

Do you understand what Christians believe in regards to the bible? It doesn't sound like it.

Yes, I understand what they believe. See Answers in Genesis

Those who don't believe the whole schmeer are backsliders and sinners who have strayed from the lord's flock. They can't have half a belief in the god.

You appear to hold the ignorant perspective that Christians believe God wrote the bible. It's a common canard used by folks like you, who have a lot of bigotries towards others.

No, I know that the god didn't write the bible. But those who haven't backslid on their faith also know that it is the liberal word of god.

Are you a believer or are you just a halfway believer when it's convenient for you?
What is it in your bible that you are claiming are lies?

No one besides you (and probably a few of your fellow backwards bigots) believes the bible is the literal word of God.

Real christians don't question their bibles as the literal word of god. If you don't believe then your just a christian when it's convenient for you.

As to your suggestion of what I believe, that has absolutely nothing to do with this topic. If you weren't so blinded by your hate you would already know that I'm an atheist who doesn't believe in any of the christian crap.

I advocate for those who are the real true believers, not conditional believers of your ilk.

As I stated and expected, you're just an anti-Christian bigot trying to ply your old, worn out trope, and it's just sad.

Yeah, he's a socialist doing what all socialists do. They attack rival religions. Specifically the dominant religion of the land. In this case that would be Christianity. Donald is just doing what Donald was programmed to do.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Socialism seeks equality through uniformity and communal ownership Socialism has an extraordinary ability to incite and inflame its adherents and inspire social movements. Socialists dismiss their defeats and ignore their incongruities. They desire big government and use big government to implement their morally relativistic social policies. Socialism is a religion. The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership. They practice critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe. They confuse critical theory for critical thinking. Critical thinking is the practice of challenging what one does believe to test its validity. Something they never do.

 

[Donald H]

True believers who haven't deserted their faith understand that jesus was a socialist.

Ding is a backslider and self-proclaimed non-believer in his bibles. Complete and solid non-wavering faith will win out for god in the end. Conditional believers can expect no salvation!

This is the thread in which we separate the righteous from Satan's disciples.

 

[irosie91]

True believers who haven't deserted their faith understand that jesus was a socialist.

Ding is a backslider and self-proclaimed non-believer in his bibles. Complete and solid non-wavering faith will win out for god in the end. Conditional believers can expect no salvation!

This is the thread in which we separate the righteous from Satan's disciples.

the assertion "JESUS WAS A SOCIALIST" has no meaning. Jewish law includes
aspects of socialism-----but is not MARXIST or Stalinist. In fact just about ALL
societies include some aspects of SOCIALISM. Free Kindergarten is a SOCIALIST
ISSUE

 

[Donald H]

True believers who haven't deserted their faith understand that jesus was a socialist.

Ding is a backslider and self-proclaimed non-believer in his bibles. Complete and solid non-wavering faith will win out for god in the end. Conditional believers can expect no salvation!

This is the thread in which we separate the righteous from Satan's disciples.

the assertion "JESUS WAS A SOCIALIST" has no meaning. Jewish law includes
aspects of socialism-----but is not MARXIST or Stalinist. In fact just about ALL
societies include some aspects of SOCIALISM. Free Kindergarten is a SOCIALIST
ISSUE

Socialism isn't Marxism or Stalinism. It's the same as 'social conscience or socially responsible.
Jesus claimed social responsibility even though he is responsible for the teaching in his bibles of evil. Is there any evil that is not promoted by the christian bibles?

 

[ding]

True believers who haven't deserted their faith understand that jesus was a socialist.

Ding is a backslider and self-proclaimed non-believer in his bibles. Complete and solid non-wavering faith will win out for god in the end. Conditional believers can expect no salvation!

This is the thread in which we separate the righteous from Satan's disciples.

It's not a surprise socialists see Jesus as a socialist as they try to subordinate Jesus.

 

[ding]

Ding is a backslider and self-proclaimed non-believer in his bibles.

Really? Where did I proclaim that? Surely you can post a link, right?

Socialists are habitual liars. You can keep your doctor!

 

[ding]

Conditional believers can expect no salvation!

Did you get that from a militant atheist website or something?

 

[marvin martian]

There's no reason why all Christians shouldn't possess faith enough to allow them to believe that their bibles are the literal and truthful word of their god. To do anything less is to backslide and commit the greatest of sins.

As an example, The Noah's ark story can be reconciled with modern science in several ways. One of which is that the god shrunk all the animals to 1 thousandth size in order to fit them all into the confines of his boat.

Or, the Grand Canyon is proof of the biblical flood and is even claimed to be so at the site.

The Christian god can do anything and everything. It's time for Christians to stop backsliding and come back to relying on their faith. If they don't then they are selling the farm to non-believers.

Fwiw, I am a believer in the truth, no matter where it leads.
To hell or to heaven, I make no excuses for my commitment to facts and reality.

Where is that 40% of Americans who commit to believing creation and rejecting Darwininan evolution? Do they really believe or do they only believe on conditions that can keep them in a comfort zone?

Do you understand what Christians believe in regards to the bible? It doesn't sound like it.

Yes, I understand what they believe. See Answers in Genesis

Those who don't believe the whole schmeer are backsliders and sinners who have strayed from the lord's flock. They can't have half a belief in the god.

You appear to hold the ignorant perspective that Christians believe God wrote the bible. It's a common canard used by folks like you, who have a lot of bigotries towards others.

No, I know that the god didn't write the bible. But those who haven't backslid on their faith also know that it is the liberal word of god.

Are you a believer or are you just a halfway believer when it's convenient for you?
What is it in your bible that you are claiming are lies?

No one besides you (and probably a few of your fellow backwards bigots) believes the bible is the literal word of God.

Real christians don't question their bibles as the literal word of god. If you don't believe then your just a christian when it's convenient for you.

As to your suggestion of what I believe, that has absolutely nothing to do with this topic. If you weren't so blinded by your hate you would already know that I'm an atheist who doesn't believe in any of the christian crap.

I advocate for those who are the real true believers, not conditional believers of your ilk.

As I stated and expected, you're just an anti-Christian bigot trying to ply your old, worn out trope, and it's just sad.

Yeah, he's a socialist doing what all socialists do. They attack rival religions. Specifically the dominant religion of the land. In this case that would be Christianity. Donald is just doing what Donald was programmed to do.

Socialism intentionally denies examination because it is irrational. There is no formal defined dogma of socialism. Instead there is only a vague, rosy notion of something good, noble and just: the advent of these things will bring instant euphoria and a social order beyond reproach. Socialism seeks equality through uniformity and communal ownership Socialism has an extraordinary ability to incite and inflame its adherents and inspire social movements. Socialists dismiss their defeats and ignore their incongruities. They desire big government and use big government to implement their morally relativistic social policies. Socialism is a religion. The religious nature of socialism explains their hostility towards traditional religions which is that of one rival religion over another. Their dogma is based on materialism, primitive instincts, atheism and the deification of man. They see no distinction between good and evil, no morality or any other kind of value, save pleasure. They practice moral relativity, indiscriminate indiscriminateness, multiculturalism, cultural Marxism and normalization of deviance. They worship science but are the first to reject it when it suits their purposes. They can be identified by an external locus of control. Their religious doctrine is abolition of private property, abolition of family, abolition of religion and equality via uniformity and communal ownership. They practice critical theory which is the Cultural Marxist theory to criticize what they do not believe to arrive at what they do believe without ever having to examine what they believe. They confuse critical theory for critical thinking. Critical thinking is the practice of challenging what one does believe to test its validity. Something they never do.

Well said. I have learned to easily see through bigots like Donald H. They are as predictable as they are ignorant. Their brand of tyrannical socialism/communism requires them to attack all other religions. It's a well-documented phenomenon throughout history.

 

[ESay]

Real christians don't question their bibles as the literal word of god. If you don't believe then your just a christian when it's convenient for you

What do you want to assure? That a real Christan should believe that Earth was created during six days, in literal meaning? But that is absurd. We know now that isnt the case. But dont forget what knowledge about the universe the people had when they had got the revelation.

 

[Donald H]

Ding is a backslider and self-proclaimed non-believer in his bibles.

Really? Where did I proclaim that? Surely you can post a link, right?

Socialists are habitual liars. You can keep your doctor!

So now you are going to claim that you believe in the word of the god as written in your bibles?

That wasn't so hard now was it.

When will you backslide again and proclaim that your bible isn't the literal word of the god?

Now?

Or will it take you a few minutes to come up with another excuse for why you don't believe?

 

[marvin martian]

Ding is a backslider and self-proclaimed non-believer in his bibles.

Really? Where did I proclaim that? Surely you can post a link, right?

Socialists are habitual liars. You can keep your doctor!

So now you are going to claim that you believe in the word of the god as written in your bibles?

That wasn't so hard now was it.

When will you backslide again and proclaim that your bible isn't the literal word of the god?

Now?

Or will it take you a few minutes to come up with another excuse for why you don't believe?

No one besides you and a few of your fellow bigots believes the bible is the literal word of God.

 

[Donald H]

Say it ding: Say that you believe your bibles are the word of your god, completely land unconditionally!

 

[ESay]

the assertion "JESUS WAS A SOCIALIST" has no meaning

Basically, Jesus would be considered a socialist in the American society now. I think he would adore universal healthcare, wide social programs of helping the poor, extra taxing of the rich etc.

 

[irosie91]

True believers who haven't deserted their faith understand that jesus was a socialist.

Ding is a backslider and self-proclaimed non-believer in his bibles. Complete and solid non-wavering faith will win out for god in the end. Conditional believers can expect no salvation!

This is the thread in which we separate the righteous from Satan's disciples.

the assertion "JESUS WAS A SOCIALIST" has no meaning. Jewish law includes
aspects of socialism-----but is not MARXIST or Stalinist. In fact just about ALL
societies include some aspects of SOCIALISM. Free Kindergarten is a SOCIALIST
ISSUE

Socialism isn't Marxism or Stalinism. It's the same as 'social conscience or socially responsible.
Jesus claimed social responsibility even though he is responsible for the teaching in his bibles of evil. Is there any evil that is not promoted by the christian bibles?

socialism in the REAL WORLD has come to refer to communism. There is lots of
evil NOT promoted in the christian bible

 

[irosie91]

the assertion "JESUS WAS A SOCIALIST" has no meaning

Basically, Jesus would be considered a socialist in the American society now. I think he would adore universal healthcare, wide social programs of helping the poor, extra taxing of the rich etc.

True Pharisee Judaism is very socialist

 

[marvin martian]

the assertion "JESUS WAS A SOCIALIST" has no meaning

Basically, Jesus would be considered a socialist in the American society now. I think he would adore universal healthcare, wide social programs of helping the poor, extra taxing of the rich etc.

For you have the poor with you always, and whenever you wish you may do them good; but Me you do not have always. - Mark 14:17

 

[Donald H]

Ding is a backslider and self-proclaimed non-believer in his bibles.

Really? Where did I proclaim that? Surely you can post a link, right?

Socialists are habitual liars. You can keep your doctor!

So now you are going to claim that you believe in the word of the god as written in your bibles?

That wasn't so hard now was it.

When will you backslide again and proclaim that your bible isn't the literal word of the god?

Now?

Or will it take you a few minutes to come up with another excuse for why you don't believe?

No one besides you and a few of your fellow bigots believes the bible is the literal word of God.

You have yourself terribly confused again marvin. Your beliefs and my beliefs are more the same than they are opposing. You believe half of the teaching of your god and I believe none of it.

This topic is a quest for those who believe all of it, and to encourage them to express their unconditional faith.

Some will and have but many won't because their faith is weakened by their fear of ridicule coming from those who possess an unconditional belief in science.

 

[Donald H]

the assertion "JESUS WAS A SOCIALIST" has no meaning

Basically, Jesus would be considered a socialist in the American society now. I think he would adore universal healthcare, wide social programs of helping the poor, extra taxing of the rich etc.

True Pharisee Judaism is very socialist

Of course! Refusing to provide affordable health care to all the people is the exact opposite of socialism or of having a 'social conscience'!