Food Stamps OK For Porn, Tatoos, Jewelry

[uscitizen]

The title is bull shit.
The article talks about welfare.
"food Stamps" can only be used for approved products.

And I can't vote in MA. Thank god!

 

[jasonnfree]

Time to bury this boy:

"Welfare recipients take out cash at strip clubs, liquor stores and X-rated shops

Welfare recipients took out cash at bars, liquor stores, X-rated video shops, hookah parlors and even strip clubs — where they presumably spent their taxpayer money on lap dances rather than diapers, a Post investigation found.

A database of 200 million Electronic Benefit Transfer records from January 2011 to July 2012, obtained by The Post through a Freedom of Information request, showed welfare recipients using their EBT cards to make dozens of cash withdrawals at ATMs inside Hank’s Saloon in Brooklyn; the Blue Door Video porn shop in the East Village; The Anchor, a sleek SoHo lounge; the Patriot Saloon in TriBeCa; and Drinks Galore, a liquor distributor in The Bronx.


The state Office of Temporary and Disability Assistance (OTDA), which oversees the “cash assistance program,” even lists some of these welfare-ready ATMs on its Web site."
EXCLUSIVE: Welfare recipients using EBT cards to get cash at strip clubs, X-rated video stores and bars - NYPOST.com

I'll be surprised if a right winger ever complains about corporate welfare. It's not part of the whining points they get from fox news.

According to John Stossel, the biggest welfare queens are farmers. Agricultural subsidies including direct payments, marketing loans, counter-cyclical payments, conservation subsidies, insurance, disaster aid, export subsidies, and agricultural research, taken together, have become one of the largest middle- and upper-class welfare programs in the nation.

a. “Washington paid out a quarter of a trillion dollars in federal farm subsidies between 1995 and 2009, but to characterize the programs as either a “big government” bailout or another form of welfare would be manifestly unfair – to bailouts and welfare.” Government’s Continuing Bailout of Corporate Agriculture | Environmental Working Group



Did you know that John Stossel is a Fox reporter?

Wipe that egg off your face?

So you did some studying after my post? So why don't you and the other right wng whiners include others like corporations and the wealthy in your criticism? Because you hate the poor and worship the wealthy?

 

[MikeK]

I don't know.....maybe have food stamps available only for FOOD!

What do you think?

That is the official intent. The way the intent is circumvented is the stamps are sold or traded far below their face value in illegitimate transactions.

E.g., a junkie trades $100 in food stamps for $50 worth of heroin. The dealer either uses the stamps to buy $100 worth of food for personal use, or he sells them to someone else for $75 and that third party uses them to buy $100 worth of food.

 

[Politico]

Awesome. They can get thank you Obama tats.

 

[FA_Q2]

So you did some studying after my post? So why don't you and the other right wng whiners include others like corporations and the wealthy in your criticism? Because you hate the poor and worship the wealthy?

Most of the right does all the time here. The right wants to close tax loopholes, the left wants to keep them. The right wants to end cooperate subsidies as well through a simplified and flat tax where the left can't stomach such things.

It is the left with their never ending need in social engineering through the tax code that is clinging to these things, not the right. We are still trying to get rid of the GOP asses in congress that cling to these things but of course any time that starts to happen the left decends on them calling them nuts and wingbats.

 

[High_Gravity]

I had a lady offer to let me use her EBT card for $25 if I gave her $20, she asked me this right up in Walmart when I was in line, she had no shame. I told her no.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I had a lady offer to let me use her EBT card for $25 if I gave her $20, she asked me this right up in Walmart when I was in line, she had no shame. I told her no.

Yet the apologists will either turn a blind eye to the facts....or simply deny it is happening.

 

[Uncensored2008]

I'll be surprised if a right winger ever complains about corporate welfare. It's not part of the whining points they get from fox news.

Give us an example of "corporate welfare," sparky.

 

[rightwinger]

I'll be surprised if a right winger ever complains about corporate welfare. It's not part of the whining points they get from fox news.

Give us an example of "corporate welfare," sparky.

Executive walks into a titty bar with ten clients. Runs up a $5000 tab and writes it off as a business expense

 

[American_Jihad]

The Facts on Food Stamps​

By Warren Beatty
1/25/13


First, it was the Head Start program, now it's the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP), or food stamps. Studies indicate that these programs are, at best, ineffective. Yet, we taxpayers are forced to continue to fund/support them.

That SNAP, or food stamps, has expanded under "Dear Leader" Barack Hussein Obama is not debatable. In fact, a report released in September 2012, by the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) showed that about 45 million individuals are now enrolled in the food stamp program, more than double the number that were enrolled in 2003, when George Walker Bush was president. We taxpayers spent, in FY2012, a record $80.4 billion on SNAP, or food stamps, an increase of $2.7 billion over FY2011. Further, according to Senator Jeff Sessions (R-AL), food stamp spending has increased by 100 percent during the Obama reign. And, food stamp recipients have increased by an average of 11,133 per day under Obama.

...


And, yet, we taxpayers continue to spend billions of dollars each year on a dysfunctional SNAP, while some "fixes" can be accomplished by the USDA without increasing SNAP costs. Again, I have to ask: If Obama is truly serious about deficit reduction (as he contends), then WHY, other than purely for political reasons, not start with SNAP? Or at least reorganize the program so that it is effective and we taxpayers get some value for the money (that we don't have, that we have to borrow) we are forced to spend on SNAP.

But that's just my opinion.

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Read more: Articles: The Facts on Food Stamps

 

[Clementine]

If they use EBT cards for stuff like porn, tattoos, jewelry and gambling casinos, either we are giving them too much and need to make cuts OR they are spending money on crap and not eating. If a parent is blowing the EBT money at the nail salon or fast food places, they are not feeding their children properly. We are just enabling idiots to be irresponsible. They blow all that money on stupid shit and then bitch because they want free birth control that they could buy cheap at Walmart.

It's clear we screwed up by trusting people with money. We need to put restrictions on the EBT cards that say they must only be used for food. No beer, no cigarettes and no porn.

This proves we are giving people more than they need. Providing food and housing to the downtrodden and disabled is reasonable, but not giving them all that extra spending money. Hell, most of us tax payers can't afford tattoos.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I'll be surprised if a right winger ever complains about corporate welfare. It's not part of the whining points they get from fox news.

Give us an example of "corporate welfare," sparky.

Executive walks into a titty bar with ten clients. Runs up a $5000 tab and writes it off as a business expense

...as a result, closes $10 million deal, taxes on which pay your salary and all your sewer buds.

 

[PoliticalChic]

If they use EBT cards for stuff like porn, tattoos, jewelry and gambling casinos, either we are giving them too much and need to make cuts OR they are spending money on crap and not eating. If a parent is blowing the EBT money at the nail salon or fast food places, they are not feeding their children properly. We are just enabling idiots to be irresponsible. They blow all that money on stupid shit and then bitch because they want free birth control that they could buy cheap at Walmart.

It's clear we screwed up by trusting people with money. We need to put restrictions on the EBT cards that say they must only be used for food. No beer, no cigarettes and no porn.

This proves we are giving people more than they need. Providing food and housing to the downtrodden and disabled is reasonable, but not giving them all that extra spending money. Hell, most of us tax payers can't afford tattoos.

"We need to put restrictions on the EBT cards that say they must only be used for food"...And only in the no-frills aisle on nutritious foods.

 

[Crackerjaxon]

There is no true poverty in the United States of America.
That is, material poverty. But there is spiritual poverty, poverty of character.
And there is a virulent political philosophy that encourages taking, rather than earning....
...pleading and demanding based on envy.

Food stamps for those who need food, and cannot provide for themselves...an old and honorable heritage in America: "On January 6, 1657 twenty-eight “Scottish men” signed the Laws Rules and Order of the Poor Boxes Society” in Boston, New England and formed the Scots’ Charitable Society."
http://www.linknet1.com/scots-charitable/menu1/index1.html



But what the Left has made common is a blemish on the nation and the people...

1."Mass Gov. Deval Patrick Vetoes Ban On Using Welfare EBT Cards To Purchase Porn, Tattoos, Manicures Because It Would “Humiliate Poor People”…No surprise he’s a close friend of Barack Obama (Axelrod ran his first campaign for Mass governor).

2. Patrick vetoed the reforms Sunday while signing the state’s $32.5 billion budget.

3. According to the Boston Herald, which first reported the veto, the governor berated the legislature’s stab at banning the purchase of specific items like manicures, tattoos, guns, porn, body piercings, jewelry, and bail by saying the move was “political grandstanding” at a time when such reforms are already on track elsewhere.


4. “I’m not going to do anything that makes vulnerable people beg for their benefits.This notion of humiliating poor people has got to be separated from how we make a program, and frankly separated and disposed of, from how we make a program work and work well,” Patrick said,...



5. Patrick allowed bans on the use of EBT cards in establishments known for the sale of seemingly controversial items — such as tattoo parlors, gun shops, casinos, cruise ships, and adult entertainment facilities —- to stand."
Exposing Liberal Lies: Deval Patrick OKs Porn, Tatoos, Jewelry with Food Stamps




We live in a time when the welfare industry needs to convinced well-meaning folks that there is a 'need.'
Rather it is a 'want.'


Consider the above when you vote.

That is interesting

What do you think we should do about it?

1. I have often felt that food stamps should be reserved for purchases labeled as nutritious, but 'no-frills.'
No reason for those accepting 'Food Stamps' to eat better than those paying for the benefit.

2.Further, there should be government-sponsored church and other food kitchens available to any with a food stamp card.....no 'doggie bags.'

They are called 'Food Stamps" for a reason.


Wadda you think?

I think it's bullshit. You can only purchase food with food stamps. Some people qualify for cash assistance, not food stamps, which is provided via the EBT card. Some people will abuse the system. Live with it. It's part of the cost of the program. It's human nature. You have to ask if the good the system does is worth the cost in waste.

Herding hungry people into soup kitchens is draconian and demeaning. If the church actually did as the bible decrees, we wouldn't need a food stamp program. People who needed help would receive it anonymously and with good cheer.

If the banking system (read government, there is no difference) provided low-interest loans to people to start a viable business, purchase arable land, or train for a job that actually exists and that the recipient had the aptitude to do. we'd have a system that costs nothing and would work.

Instead, conservatives carp about minor abuses to a system that wouldn't be in place if we practiced what we preach.

 

[PoliticalChic]

That is interesting

What do you think we should do about it?

1. I have often felt that food stamps should be reserved for purchases labeled as nutritious, but 'no-frills.'
No reason for those accepting 'Food Stamps' to eat better than those paying for the benefit.

2.Further, there should be government-sponsored church and other food kitchens available to any with a food stamp card.....no 'doggie bags.'

They are called 'Food Stamps" for a reason.


Wadda you think?

I think it's bullshit. You can only purchase food with food stamps. Some people qualify for cash assistance, not food stamps, which is provided via the EBT card. Some people will abuse the system. Live with it. It's part of the cost of the program. It's human nature. You have to ask if the good the system does is worth the cost in waste.

Herding hungry people into soup kitchens is draconian and demeaning. If the church actually did as the bible decrees, we wouldn't need a food stamp program. People who needed help would receive it anonymously and with good cheer.

If the banking system (read government, there is no difference) provided low-interest loans to people to start a viable business, purchase arable land, or train for a job that actually exists and that the recipient had the aptitude to do. we'd have a system that costs nothing and would work.

Instead, conservatives carp about minor abuses to a system that wouldn't be in place if we practiced what we preach.

You're pretty much a fool.

Conservatives give far more to actual charity than liberals.


When you decide to read, pick up a copy of:

"Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism" by Arthur C. Brooks and James Q. Wilson

 

[Crackerjaxon]

1. I have often felt that food stamps should be reserved for purchases labeled as nutritious, but 'no-frills.'
No reason for those accepting 'Food Stamps' to eat better than those paying for the benefit.

2.Further, there should be government-sponsored church and other food kitchens available to any with a food stamp card.....no 'doggie bags.'

They are called 'Food Stamps" for a reason.


Wadda you think?

I think it's bullshit. You can only purchase food with food stamps. Some people qualify for cash assistance, not food stamps, which is provided via the EBT card. Some people will abuse the system. Live with it. It's part of the cost of the program. It's human nature. You have to ask if the good the system does is worth the cost in waste.

Herding hungry people into soup kitchens is draconian and demeaning. If the church actually did as the bible decrees, we wouldn't need a food stamp program. People who needed help would receive it anonymously and with good cheer.

If the banking system (read government, there is no difference) provided low-interest loans to people to start a viable business, purchase arable land, or train for a job that actually exists and that the recipient had the aptitude to do. we'd have a system that costs nothing and would work.

Instead, conservatives carp about minor abuses to a system that wouldn't be in place if we practiced what we preach.

You're pretty much a fool.

Conservatives give far more to actual charity than liberals.


When you decide to read, pick up a copy of:

"Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism" by Arthur C. Brooks and James Q. Wilson

My, what a stunning argument. Supercilious arrogance does not an argument make.

Conservatives give more to charity than liberals, so that absolves us of any responsibility to the poor? If the church met its ordained duty to the poor, there'd be no need for social programs. Unfortunately, it's populated with dour miscreants like you.

What a tight-fisted, superior little twit you are.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I think it's bullshit. You can only purchase food with food stamps. Some people qualify for cash assistance, not food stamps, which is provided via the EBT card. Some people will abuse the system. Live with it. It's part of the cost of the program. It's human nature. You have to ask if the good the system does is worth the cost in waste.

Herding hungry people into soup kitchens is draconian and demeaning. If the church actually did as the bible decrees, we wouldn't need a food stamp program. People who needed help would receive it anonymously and with good cheer.

If the banking system (read government, there is no difference) provided low-interest loans to people to start a viable business, purchase arable land, or train for a job that actually exists and that the recipient had the aptitude to do. we'd have a system that costs nothing and would work.

Instead, conservatives carp about minor abuses to a system that wouldn't be in place if we practiced what we preach.

You're pretty much a fool.

Conservatives give far more to actual charity than liberals.


When you decide to read, pick up a copy of:

"Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism" by Arthur C. Brooks and James Q. Wilson

My, what a stunning argument. Supercilious arrogance does not an argument make.

Conservatives give more to charity than liberals, so that absolves us of any responsibility to the poor? If the church met its ordained duty to the poor, there'd be no need for social programs. Unfortunately, it's populated with dour miscreants like you.

What a tight-fisted, superior little twit you are.

1. Sadly, you've bought the hype like it was on sale.

Poor means no home, no heat, no food.

Know any such?


2. "If the church met its ordained duty to the poor, there'd be no need for social programs. Unfortunately, it's populated with dour miscreants like you."

And you have this knowledge of mine, or my church's, endeavors.......exactly how?

Truth be told, you have exactly the same level of knowledge of the above, as you do about the subject about which you've posted.

But you’d make a damn fine organ donor…

 

[American_Jihad]

Hundreds of thousands of Master’s degree holders, PhDs on food stamps ​

February 3, 2013

...


To give a point of reference as to how bad the situation truly is, there were fewer than 100,000 Americans with Master’s degrees or Ph.D.s on food stamps in 2007, which means the overall number of people with extensive college educations on government assistance more than tripled in just three years. And if this trend continued at the same rate between 2010 and 2013, the total number of college educated on government assistance today has easily eclipsed more than half a million, and with no end in sight.

...

Read more: Hundreds of thousands of Master?s degree holders, PhDs on food stamps ? Patriot Update



Read more: Hundreds of thousands of Master?s degree holders, PhDs on food stamps ? Patriot Update

 

[PoliticalChic]

Hundreds of thousands of Master’s degree holders, PhDs on food stamps ​

February 3, 2013

...


To give a point of reference as to how bad the situation truly is, there were fewer than 100,000 Americans with Master’s degrees or Ph.D.s on food stamps in 2007, which means the overall number of people with extensive college educations on government assistance more than tripled in just three years. And if this trend continued at the same rate between 2010 and 2013, the total number of college educated on government assistance today has easily eclipsed more than half a million, and with no end in sight.

...

Read more: Hundreds of thousands of Master?s degree holders, PhDs on food stamps ? Patriot Update



Read more: Hundreds of thousands of Master?s degree holders, PhDs on food stamps ? Patriot Update

Salon Magazine had an enlightening article about yuppies availing themselves of government largess and their neighbor's taxes without a second thought.... how the ‘cool’ have no problem using the system, called “Hipsters on Food Stamps.”

Forgive if I posted this earlier in this long thread:

“I’m sort of a foodie, and I’m not going to do the ‘living off ramen’ thing,” he said, fondly remembering a recent meal he’d prepared of roasted rabbit with butter, tarragon and sweet potatoes. “I used to think that you could only get processed food and government cheese on food stamps, but it’s great that you can get anything.”


And in cities that are magnets for 20- and 30-something creatives and young professionals, the kinds of food markets that specialize in delectables like artisanal bread, heirloom tomatoes and grass-fed beef have seen significant upticks in food stamp payments among their typical shoppers.
Hipsters on food stamps - Salon.com

 

[NYcarbineer]

1. I have often felt that food stamps should be reserved for purchases labeled as nutritious, but 'no-frills.'
No reason for those accepting 'Food Stamps' to eat better than those paying for the benefit.

2.Further, there should be government-sponsored church and other food kitchens available to any with a food stamp card.....no 'doggie bags.'

They are called 'Food Stamps" for a reason.


Wadda you think?

I think it's bullshit. You can only purchase food with food stamps. Some people qualify for cash assistance, not food stamps, which is provided via the EBT card. Some people will abuse the system. Live with it. It's part of the cost of the program. It's human nature. You have to ask if the good the system does is worth the cost in waste.

Herding hungry people into soup kitchens is draconian and demeaning. If the church actually did as the bible decrees, we wouldn't need a food stamp program. People who needed help would receive it anonymously and with good cheer.

If the banking system (read government, there is no difference) provided low-interest loans to people to start a viable business, purchase arable land, or train for a job that actually exists and that the recipient had the aptitude to do. we'd have a system that costs nothing and would work.

Instead, conservatives carp about minor abuses to a system that wouldn't be in place if we practiced what we preach.

You're pretty much a fool.

Conservatives give far more to actual charity than liberals.


When you decide to read, pick up a copy of:

"Who Really Cares: The Surprising Truth About Compassionate Conservatism" by Arthur C. Brooks and James Q. Wilson

I love it that one day the Right is arguing how giving handouts to the Poor just keeps them poor and lazy and without the incentive to better themselves,

the next day they're bragging about how much more (supposedly) in handouts they give to the Poor.