FDR praised Robert E Lee during his statue unveiling. What a Racist pig!

[MarathonMike]

Well that does it, all FDR memorials must be torn down. We cannot allow this man who HONORED a horrible Southern Racist General any respect. In case you need a history refresher, here you go:

The statue was unveiled on June 12, 1936, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt to honor Confederate veterans. On that day, President Roosevelt gave a speech praising the general, saying:[9]

I am very happy to take part in this unveiling of the statue of General Robert E. Lee. All over the United States we recognize him as a great leader of men, as a great general. But, also, all over the United States I believe that we recognize him as something much more important than that. We recognize Robert E. Lee as one of our greatest American Christians and one of our greatest American gentlemen.

Robert E. Lee IV handed President Roosevelt a ribbon to pull, unveiling the statue.[10] When the president saw the statue, Proctor heard him call it "magnificent!".[7] Then W. H. Wells, one of the remaining soldiers who fought in Lee's army, was escorted to see the president through the crowd of people attending the unveiling ceremony

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Not just FDR, but Woodrew Wilson -- the first Southern President since the Civil War and a vicious racist to boot -- adored Robert E. Lee. On the Republican side, Dwight Eisenhower had a picture of Robert E. Lee on his office wall and publicly explained why he likewise admired the man as one of the greatest of all Americans. This adoration of the Confederate general has deep roots in American society.

It is important to understand its origin and its connection with the rise of Jim Crow, the growth of "Lost Cause" nostalgia and the profound national acceptance of white supremacy. From the highest reaches of academia to the lowest rungs of "white trash," and virtually all places between, equal rights and opportunities were denied African Americans openly and without shame until the Civil Rights Movement and MLK came on the scene. The bestowing of heroic status on Robert E. Lee played a part in all of this, as statues of him and many lesser and truly despicable Confederate leaders, along with Confederate Flags, "blossomed" throughout the Jim Crow "Old South," and even on U.S. military bases.

One place to read how all this occurred is in this 2011 article by the U.S. government-financed National Endowment for the Humanities: How Did Robert E. Lee Become an American Icon?

 

[mikegriffith1]

You wonder if any of our modern liberals who bash Robert E. Lee are aware that when the Confederacy began to debate emancipation, Lee publicly pushed for general emancipation. And, when the Confederacy began to offer slaves emancipation in exchange for their service as soldiers in the Confederate army, Lee issued an order to his army that those soldiers were to be treated with respect and dignity and were not to be reminded of their former status as slaves. Also, Lee did not form segregated units for the former slaves but integrated them into existing units.

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Robert E. Lee, in one of his wiser moments, “opposed the construction of public memorials to Confederate rebellion on the grounds that they would prevent the healing of wounds inflicted during the war.” [158]

 

[TheParser]

I would much rather that American youth emulated the gentlemanly qualities of General Lee than the destructive and cruel violence of many of today's "heroes."

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

You wonder if any of our modern liberals who bash Robert E. Lee are aware that when the Confederacy began to debate emancipation, Lee publicly pushed for general emancipation. And, when the Confederacy began to offer slaves emancipation in exchange for their service as soldiers in the Confederate army, Lee issued an order to his army that those soldiers were to be treated with respect and dignity and were not to be reminded of their former status as slaves. Also, Lee did not form segregated units for the former slaves but integrated them into existing units.

Lee of course never “publicly pushed” for “general emancipation.” It is not “bashing” Robert E. Lee to point out this is just another attempt to glorify this icon of “Lost Cause” white supremacist and Confederate mythology. Far from “pushing” for “general emancipation,” Lee not only opposed Republicans like Lincoln who just sought to limit the expansion of slavery, but in 1860 supported the extreme pro-slavery candidate John Breckinridge rather than the moderate pro-slavery candidate John Bell, who actually carried Virginia.

A vague recognition by Lee that slavery was an unfortunate institution that hurt “whites more than blacks,” that it was necessary for the betterment of the morals and Christian education of slaves, meant nothing. Especially to slaves who were whipped when they sought freedom and self-emancipation. Lee sought the life of a soldier, rather than dirty himself with day to day managing of slaves on his family plantations, but he saw to it that plantation managers “laid it on well” when disciplining runaways. He also broke from Washington and Jefferson’s earlier paternal tradition of keeping slave families together.

The Making and the Breaking of the Legend of Robert E. Lee

 

[Moonglow]

Well that does it, all FDR memorials must be torn down. We cannot allow this man who HONORED a horrible Southern Racist General any respect. In case you need a history refresher, here you go:

The statue was unveiled on June 12, 1936, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt to honor Confederate veterans. On that day, President Roosevelt gave a speech praising the general, saying:[9]

I am very happy to take part in this unveiling of the statue of General Robert E. Lee. All over the United States we recognize him as a great leader of men, as a great general. But, also, all over the United States I believe that we recognize him as something much more important than that. We recognize Robert E. Lee as one of our greatest American Christians and one of our greatest American gentlemen.

Robert E. Lee IV handed President Roosevelt a ribbon to pull, unveiling the statue.[10] When the president saw the statue, Proctor heard him call it "magnificent!".[7] Then W. H. Wells, one of the remaining soldiers who fought in Lee's army, was escorted to see the president through the crowd of people attending the unveiling ceremony

Did anyone tell this guy that FDR died over seventy years ago?

 

[Oddball]

Well that does it, all FDR memorials must be torn down. We cannot allow this man who HONORED a horrible Southern Racist General any respect. In case you need a history refresher, here you go:

The statue was unveiled on June 12, 1936, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt to honor Confederate veterans. On that day, President Roosevelt gave a speech praising the general, saying:[9]

I am very happy to take part in this unveiling of the statue of General Robert E. Lee. All over the United States we recognize him as a great leader of men, as a great general. But, also, all over the United States I believe that we recognize him as something much more important than that. We recognize Robert E. Lee as one of our greatest American Christians and one of our greatest American gentlemen.

Robert E. Lee IV handed President Roosevelt a ribbon to pull, unveiling the statue.[10] When the president saw the statue, Proctor heard him call it "magnificent!".[7] Then W. H. Wells, one of the remaining soldiers who fought in Lee's army, was escorted to see the president through the crowd of people attending the unveiling ceremony

Did anyone tell this guy that FDR died over seventy years ago?

So let's tear down all the statues erected in his memory too!

Dead is dead....Fair is fair.

 

[Moonglow]

I would much rather that American youth emulated the gentlemanly qualities of General Lee than the destructive and cruel violence of many of today's "heroes."

So you want the kids of today to make war against the USA, how neat.

 

[Moonglow]

Well that does it, all FDR memorials must be torn down. We cannot allow this man who HONORED a horrible Southern Racist General any respect. In case you need a history refresher, here you go:

The statue was unveiled on June 12, 1936, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt to honor Confederate veterans. On that day, President Roosevelt gave a speech praising the general, saying:[9]

I am very happy to take part in this unveiling of the statue of General Robert E. Lee. All over the United States we recognize him as a great leader of men, as a great general. But, also, all over the United States I believe that we recognize him as something much more important than that. We recognize Robert E. Lee as one of our greatest American Christians and one of our greatest American gentlemen.

Robert E. Lee IV handed President Roosevelt a ribbon to pull, unveiling the statue.[10] When the president saw the statue, Proctor heard him call it "magnificent!".[7] Then W. H. Wells, one of the remaining soldiers who fought in Lee's army, was escorted to see the president through the crowd of people attending the unveiling ceremony

Did anyone tell this guy that FDR died over seventy years ago?

So let's tear down all the statues erected in his memory too!

Dead is dead....Fair is fair.

How many slaves did FDR own?

 

[Oddball]

Well that does it, all FDR memorials must be torn down. We cannot allow this man who HONORED a horrible Southern Racist General any respect. In case you need a history refresher, here you go:

The statue was unveiled on June 12, 1936, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt to honor Confederate veterans. On that day, President Roosevelt gave a speech praising the general, saying:[9]

I am very happy to take part in this unveiling of the statue of General Robert E. Lee. All over the United States we recognize him as a great leader of men, as a great general. But, also, all over the United States I believe that we recognize him as something much more important than that. We recognize Robert E. Lee as one of our greatest American Christians and one of our greatest American gentlemen.

Robert E. Lee IV handed President Roosevelt a ribbon to pull, unveiling the statue.[10] When the president saw the statue, Proctor heard him call it "magnificent!".[7] Then W. H. Wells, one of the remaining soldiers who fought in Lee's army, was escorted to see the president through the crowd of people attending the unveiling ceremony

Did anyone tell this guy that FDR died over seventy years ago?

So let's tear down all the statues erected in his memory too!

Dead is dead....Fair is fair.

How many slaves did FDR own?

Irrelevant.

The only thing that matters is the Current Year™...Get with the fucking program.

 

[Moonglow]

Well that does it, all FDR memorials must be torn down. We cannot allow this man who HONORED a horrible Southern Racist General any respect. In case you need a history refresher, here you go:

The statue was unveiled on June 12, 1936, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt to honor Confederate veterans. On that day, President Roosevelt gave a speech praising the general, saying:[9]

I am very happy to take part in this unveiling of the statue of General Robert E. Lee. All over the United States we recognize him as a great leader of men, as a great general. But, also, all over the United States I believe that we recognize him as something much more important than that. We recognize Robert E. Lee as one of our greatest American Christians and one of our greatest American gentlemen.

Robert E. Lee IV handed President Roosevelt a ribbon to pull, unveiling the statue.[10] When the president saw the statue, Proctor heard him call it "magnificent!".[7] Then W. H. Wells, one of the remaining soldiers who fought in Lee's army, was escorted to see the president through the crowd of people attending the unveiling ceremony

Did anyone tell this guy that FDR died over seventy years ago?

So let's tear down all the statues erected in his memory too!

Dead is dead....Fair is fair.

How many slaves did FDR own?

Irrelevant.

The only thing that matters is the Current Year™...Get with the fucking program.

Why because you are into destroying statues or you have a moral dilemma?

 

[MarathonMike]

Well that does it, all FDR memorials must be torn down. We cannot allow this man who HONORED a horrible Southern Racist General any respect. In case you need a history refresher, here you go:

The statue was unveiled on June 12, 1936, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt to honor Confederate veterans. On that day, President Roosevelt gave a speech praising the general, saying:[9]

I am very happy to take part in this unveiling of the statue of General Robert E. Lee. All over the United States we recognize him as a great leader of men, as a great general. But, also, all over the United States I believe that we recognize him as something much more important than that. We recognize Robert E. Lee as one of our greatest American Christians and one of our greatest American gentlemen.

Robert E. Lee IV handed President Roosevelt a ribbon to pull, unveiling the statue.[10] When the president saw the statue, Proctor heard him call it "magnificent!".[7] Then W. H. Wells, one of the remaining soldiers who fought in Lee's army, was escorted to see the president through the crowd of people attending the unveiling ceremony

Did anyone tell this guy that FDR died over seventy years ago?

'This guy' knows FDR's history very well. I also know that Social Justice Warriors are busy erasing our history that is much older than 70 years.

 

[Oddball]

Well that does it, all FDR memorials must be torn down. We cannot allow this man who HONORED a horrible Southern Racist General any respect. In case you need a history refresher, here you go:

The statue was unveiled on June 12, 1936, by President Franklin D. Roosevelt to honor Confederate veterans. On that day, President Roosevelt gave a speech praising the general, saying:[9]

I am very happy to take part in this unveiling of the statue of General Robert E. Lee. All over the United States we recognize him as a great leader of men, as a great general. But, also, all over the United States I believe that we recognize him as something much more important than that. We recognize Robert E. Lee as one of our greatest American Christians and one of our greatest American gentlemen.

Robert E. Lee IV handed President Roosevelt a ribbon to pull, unveiling the statue.[10] When the president saw the statue, Proctor heard him call it "magnificent!".[7] Then W. H. Wells, one of the remaining soldiers who fought in Lee's army, was escorted to see the president through the crowd of people attending the unveiling ceremony

Did anyone tell this guy that FDR died over seventy years ago?

So let's tear down all the statues erected in his memory too!

Dead is dead....Fair is fair.

How many slaves did FDR own?

Irrelevant.

The only thing that matters is the Current Year™...Get with the fucking program.

Why because you are into destroying statues or you have a moral dilemma?

Your lame attempts at humor are irrelevant.

We of the Current Year™ have deemed FDR to be an environmental war criminal.

His engaging in this thing you fossilized throwbacks refer to as "World War 2" involved the deployment and use of millions of vehicles propelled by internal combustion engines...FDR loosed upon the world a CO2 apocalypse that we still have not recovered from to this day, making him one of the greatest environmental terrorists of all time...All tributes to him must be either destroyed or stashed away in private museums, for you neanderthals to gaze upon with your uneducated throwback hick eyes in shame....So it shall be decreed in the Current Year™!

*The fact that you moonbats have absolutely no self-awareness and sense of irony will assure that the previous paragraph will fly right over your pointy head.*

 

[mikegriffith1]

Lee of course never “publicly pushed” for “general emancipation.”

You don't know what you're talking about. Actually, yes, he did. Lee said that once emancipation for slaves who served in the army began, military emancipation would have to be accompanied by "a well-digested plan of gradual and general emancipation." And when he did this, pro-slavery hardliners condemned him in harsh terms.

I guess your anti-Lee sources don't mention this fact.

Far from “pushing” for “general emancipation,” Lee not only opposed Republicans like Lincoln who just sought to limit the expansion of slavery, but in 1860 supported the extreme pro-slavery candidate John Breckinridge rather than the moderate pro-slavery candidate John Bell, who actually carried Virginia.

This is misleading, to say the least. You're talking about two very different periods: the pre-war period and the last two years of the war. They were eternities apart in terms of the political shifts that occurred between them.

Although Lee supported Breckinridge, he also supported the Crittenden Compromise and believed that threats to slavery's continuation were not a valid basis for secession.

A vague recognition by Lee that slavery was an unfortunate institution

Lee's condemnation of slavery was not "vague." He said, "slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil in any country." What do you find "vague" about that?

Lee's views on race are easy to distort if you cherry-pick certain statements and ignore others. Lee's views were shared by most Americans at the time, in all parts of the country. Lee wished nothing but the best for blacks, and he took firm action against students at his university who mistreated black students.

Especially to slaves who were whipped when they sought freedom and self-emancipation.

According to the slaves' own accounts, cases of abuse were the exception, not the rule. Granted, even one case is one too many, but most slaves were not abused. Plantation discipline records, which pulled no punches, show that the majority of slaves were never whipped, even though whipping was commonly used as a punishment by white parents on their children. We must be very careful about judging one generation by the standards of another generation.

Lee sought the life of a soldier, rather than dirty himself with day to day managing of slaves on his family plantations,

So did General George Henry Thomas, a fellow Virginian slaveholder and one of the Union army's best generals.

but he saw to it that plantation managers “laid it on well” when disciplining runaways.

The evidence for this claim is scant and debatable.

And, wait, I thought you just said that he didn't get involved with the day-to-day management of the slaves, but now you say he "saw to it" that overseers "laid it on well" on runaways. Which is it?

Several slaves who dealt with Lee said he treated them with respect.

He also broke from Washington and Jefferson’s earlier paternal tradition of keeping slave families together.

This is a grossly unfair oversimplification of the situation.

The Making and the Breaking of the Legend of Robert E. Lee

Fellman's book is trash. You might start by reading the following two articles:

Robert E. Lee and Slavery - Encyclopedia Virginia

As an Enslaver Lee was born in 1807, into two of Virginia’s most prominent families. His father, Henry “Light-Horse Harry” Lee, served as a cavalry officer in the (1775–1783), a (1791–1794), and a member of the House of Representatives (1799–1801), while his mother, Ann Hill Carter Lee, was the...

www.encyclopediavirginia.org

Robert E. Lee vs. Twitter Historians – Abbeville Institute

www.abbevilleinstitute.org

 

[LA RAM FAN]

You wonder if any of our modern liberals who bash Robert E. Lee are aware that when the Confederacy began to debate emancipation, Lee publicly pushed for general emancipation. And, when the Confederacy began to offer slaves emancipation in exchange for their service as soldiers in the Confederate army, Lee issued an order to his army that those soldiers were to be treated with respect and dignity and were not to be reminded of their former status as slaves. Also, Lee did not form segregated units for the former slaves but integrated them into existing units.

Indeed,the winners always get to re write their revision of history which is never the truth.the truth unlike what our corrupt school system taught us,is that like you said,he was for the black people,there was not a racist bone in his body. I see many here have fallen for the propaganda of our corrupt school system though,I once did as well but now I know better that we were lied to by our corrupt schools.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Lee of course never “publicly pushed” for “general emancipation.”

You don't know what you're talking about. Actually, yes, he did. Lee said that once emancipation for slaves who served in the army began, military emancipation would have to be accompanied by "a well-digested plan of gradual and general emancipation." And when he did this, pro-slavery hardliners condemned him in harsh terms.

I guess your anti-Lee sources don't mention this fact.

Far from “pushing” for “general emancipation,” Lee not only opposed Republicans like Lincoln who just sought to limit the expansion of slavery, but in 1860 supported the extreme pro-slavery candidate John Breckinridge rather than the moderate pro-slavery candidate John Bell, who actually carried Virginia.

This is misleading, to say the least. You're talking about two very different periods: the pre-war period and the last two years of the war. They were eternities apart in terms of the political shifts that occurred between them.

Although Lee supported Breckinridge, he also supported the Crittenden Compromise and believed that threats to slavery's continuation were not a valid basis for secession.

A vague recognition by Lee that slavery was an unfortunate institution

Lee's condemnation of slavery was not "vague." He said, "slavery as an institution is a moral and political evil in any country." What do you find "vague" about that?

Lee's views on race are easy to distort if you cherry-pick certain statements and ignore others. Lee's views were shared by most Americans at the time, in all parts of the country. Lee wished nothing but the best for blacks, and he took firm action against students at his university who mistreated black students.

Especially to slaves who were whipped when they sought freedom and self-emancipation.

According to the slaves' own accounts, cases of abuse were the exception, not the rule. Granted, even one case is one too many, but most slaves were not abused. Plantation discipline records, which pulled no punches, show that the majority of slaves were never whipped, even though whipping was commonly used as a punishment by white parents on their children. We must be very careful about judging one generation by the standards of another generation.

Lee sought the life of a soldier, rather than dirty himself with day to day managing of slaves on his family plantations,

So did General George Henry Thomas, a fellow Virginian slaveholder and one of the Union army's best generals.

but he saw to it that plantation managers “laid it on well” when disciplining runaways.

The evidence for this claim is scant and debatable.

And, wait, I thought you just said that he didn't get involved with the day-to-day management of the slaves, but now you say he "saw to it" that overseers "laid it on well" on runaways. Which is it?

Several slaves who dealt with Lee said he treated them with respect.

He also broke from Washington and Jefferson’s earlier paternal tradition of keeping slave families together.

This is a grossly unfair oversimplification of the situation.

The Making and the Breaking of the Legend of Robert E. Lee

Fellman's book is trash. You might start by reading the following two articles:

Robert E. Lee and Slavery - Encyclopedia Virginia

As an Enslaver Lee was born in 1807, into two of Virginia’s most prominent families. His father, Henry “Light-Horse Harry” Lee, served as a cavalry officer in the (1775–1783), a (1791–1794), and a member of the House of Representatives (1799–1801), while his mother, Ann Hill Carter Lee, was the...

www.encyclopediavirginia.org

Robert E. Lee vs. Twitter Historians – Abbeville Institute

www.abbevilleinstitute.org

Mike is the winner,he checkmated tom. Tom is obviously looking at one of his textbooks from his history class in high school from the corrupt school system that was the source to where Feldman got his information obviously

 

[Tom Paine 1949]

Right. Robert E. Lee. The “Great Emancipator.” The “Man Who Freed the Slaves.”

— you people are just too sick for words.