Uncancelled History with Douglas Murray | EP. 01 Robert E. Lee

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I said nobody died due to the cannon fire at Sumter by the Confederates. I explained as the Flag of the US was being taken down, a cannon in the fort was fired and that is what killed the one trooper. Learn your history before challenging me on this issue.

You are arguing a made up story after the fact. This is how it happened per Bing AI search.

"The attack on Fort Sumter in 1861 marked the official beginning of the American Civil War1. The battle lasted for three days, from April 12 to April 14, 18611. During the attack, there were no combat casualties2. However, two federal troops died during a freak accident at a ceremony after the surrender when a cannon misfired2. One Union artillerist was killed and three were wounded (one mortally) when a cannon exploded prematurely while firing a salute during the evacuation on April 14 3."

 

[Robert W]

You are reading Qanon type nonsense.

Actually that would be you given you know their type of nonsense.

 

[Robert W]

You are arguing a made up story after the fact. This is how it happened per Bing AI search.

"The attack on Fort Sumter in 1861 marked the official beginning of the American Civil War1. The battle lasted for three days, from April 12 to April 14, 18611. During the attack, there were no combat casualties2. However, two federal troops died during a freak accident at a ceremony after the surrender when a cannon misfired2. One Union artillerist was killed and three were wounded (one mortally) when a cannon exploded prematurely while firing a salute during the evacuation on April 14 3."

Thanks for confirming the union death was due to the cannon firing. I recall just one trooper was killed. But if it was 2, no problem for me since it was friendly fire.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Thanks for confirming the union death was due to the cannon firing. I recall just one trooper was killed. But if it was 2, no problem for me since it was friendly fire.

Thank you for the admission.

 

[Borillar]

I like to know all of this nations history as opposed to Democrats who want years of our history to be denied.

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That is one wild claim. We simply want this nation to admit all of it's history and not allow the Democrats to flat out erase the history of America.

It isn't Democrats who are out flying Confederate flags and trying to present slavery as some sort of benevolent apprenticeship for blacks to learn useful skills. It isn't Democrats who are erasing black history from schools because it might offend the sensitivities of white republican politicians. It isn't Democrats who are out banning books and defunding libraries. For someone claiming to want to admit to all the nation's history, your party sure seems to be doing it's utmost to gaslight, deny, defend, or omit entire chapters.

 

[Robert W]

Thank you for the admission.

Read my first comments. That was the actual admission. You are welcome.

 

[Robert W]

It isn't Democrats who are out flying Confederate flags and trying to present slavery as some sort of benevolent apprenticeship for blacks to learn useful skills. It isn't Democrats who are erasing black history from schools because it might offend the sensitivities of white republican politicians. It isn't Democrats who are out banning books and defunding libraries. For someone claiming to want to admit to all the nation's history, your party sure seems to be doing it's utmost to gaslight, deny, defend, or omit entire chapters.

Why do Democrats claim that black slaves learned a trade? They brag that slaves built the White House.
Though I have a confederate battleflag, I happen to also have the US Flag that flew on the mast of the sunken ship, the Arizona at Pearl Harbor. It is fun to have things that are actually historical. However none of my flags have been displayed by me on poles of any sort.
I guess per the Democrats, blacks were far too stupid to learn trades on the plantations. So now they can shut their mouths as to things constructed by the slaves of that time. Nobody has erased the story of slavery from the schools. It is not republicans banning books that are decent to be read by students, it would be the lies being banned and the porn that Democrats want children to see.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

^^^ drivel history and in the very small minority no matter what DeSantis etc want.

 

[Zincwarrior]

He was a patriot to his home which was Virginia.

What would you call Thomas, who refused to fight against his nation, and then proceeded to kick the shit out of Rebs year after year.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

General Thomas was a traitor to VA. When, in fact, he was an American hero, and now Lee's statue is in museum.

 

[Zincwarrior]

so what

He then invaded other states and broke his oath.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Explain that, please, Zinc.

 

[Zincwarrior]

General Thomas was a traitor to VA. When, in fact, he was an American hero, and now Lee's statue is in museum.

I always thought Thomas was a better general than Sherman.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Explain that, please, Zinc.

Lee invaded the north states twice. Lest we forget, Gettysburg is in Pennsylvania.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

I always thought Thomas was a better general than Sherman.

Maybe. They were strategically better than Jackson; I think Thomas was a better tactician.

 

[Zincwarrior]

Maybe. They were strategically better than Jackson; I think Thomas was a better tactician.

Thomas actually beat Jackson in early battle.

I agree. Grant's strength was doggedness in overcoming obstacles and maintaining logistics. While Petersburg was gruelling it pinned Lee, allowing Sherman and Sheridan to go to town in the states further south.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

and then the tax increases on the people who could least afford it while their incomes were declining in real terms.

It was awful when Reagan dropped the top tax rate from 70% to 28% and
brought inflation down from 13.5% in 1980 to 1.9% in 1986. DURR

Come on DudleyDipshit, tell me more about derivatives that don't have a counterparty.

 

[DudleySmith]

It was awful when Reagan dropped the top tax rate from 70% to 28% and
brought inflation down from 13.5% in 1980 to 1.9% in 1986. DURR

Come on DudleyDipshit, tell me more about derivatives that don't have a counterparty.

Carter lowered capital gains top rate from 35% to 28%. Reagan raised the nominal tax rates for the lowest brackets by about 36%, from 11% to 15% in 1986. Reagan didn't 'lower inflation'; the inflation rate went down, largely due to real incomes falling off. You don't know shit about anything. You've never filled out a tax form either.

Tell us Toddster Dumbass, how many people ever actually paid the top rates? In any case ....

Tax Equity and Fiscal Responsibility Act of 1982 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Regan raised taxes on working people again in 1986, and did away with some of the few deductions working and many middle class people could qualify for as well as raising Social Security taxes, taxing unemployment benefits, increased gasoline taxes, cigarette taxes and others from state tax increases, and siccing the IRS on waitresses. He also allowed so many mergers and monopolies to form any imaginary 'savings' was wiped out in higher prices for nearly everything.

Tax Reform Act of 1986 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Tax cuts for the top incomes were paid for by tax increases on the bottom half of wage earners. Stupid people like you don't have a clue.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/business/1988/10/30/wave-of-mergers-takeovers-is-a-part-of-reagan-legacy/e90598c2-628d-40fe-b9c6-a621e298671d/

Junk bond kings and swindlers pissed away whatever tax savings were had, making his 'trickle down' theories rubbish only idiots still buy. Poverty rates increased under Reagan's policies. He did no better than Carter, no surprise since he followed Carter's lead on tax cuts and union busting and deregulation. carter was a Watergate Baby and fvpred big biz, too. Whatever gains made under Reagan's first 4 years were a result of Carter;s policies, not Reagan's; most of Reagan's tax cuts got rolled back almost immediately, in 1982, and again in 1986.

Some of us did well when the inevitable bust came, though; I bought three houses for less than what one cost under Reagan's bubble, and got to laugh at the sellers when they claimed 'democrats caused the collapse'. I kept asking them which Democrat held guns to their heads and made them take out $60,000 mortgages on $12,000 houses, and then walk away from them when the equities fell through the floor. any of then could still make the payments, they just didn't want to, typical of the business ethics of Reaganoughts. I could continue on, but Todd is an idiot, and it doesn't matter what is said, he will just keep posting stuff his Hive tells him to parrot for another 20 or 30 posts.

 

[DudleySmith]

Lee invaded the north states twice. Lest we forget, Gettysburg is in Pennsylvania.

lol in 1863. Somebody tell this troll what year Lincoln started his illegal war.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Reagan raised the nominal tax rates for the lowest brackets by about 36%, from 11% to 15% in 1986.

OMG!!!!

That's horrible!

What happened to the standard deduction when he did that?