Esper doesn’t want troops protecting America? Deep state?

[OldLady]

You can't use the military as a police force. It goes against the Posse Act. The are only a very few instances where the military can be deployed.

Indeed. The Insurrection Act. The one Trump is considering.

Esper's opinion is of no consequence beyond advisory. Attempting to debate the boss in public is a sure path to the exit.

Doesn't the Posse Comitatus Act limit his authority? Require Congress's approval? I don't know. NPR seems to feel he can.

What Is The Insurrection Act That Trump Is Threatening To Invoke?

The 213-year-old law allows a president to "call forth the militia for the purpose of suppressing" an insurrection. Trump threatened to deploy the military to states that don't quell violent protests.

www.npr.org

But the Posse Comitatus Act would seem to limit that.

Sec. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress;

NPR is wrong. The Insurrection Act overrides Posse Comitatus.

NPR says he CAN.

As to whether a state must request the presence of those military forces in the state, that's "not necessarily" the case, according to experts.

A section of the law (§251) says (emphasis ours):

"[T]he President may, upon the request of its legislature or of its governor if the legislature cannot be convened, call into Federal service such of the militia."

But the next section (§252) says:

"Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion."

What Is The Insurrection Act That Trump Is Threatening To Invoke?

The 213-year-old law allows a president to "call forth the militia for the purpose of suppressing" an insurrection. Trump threatened to deploy the military to states that don't quell violent protests.

www.npr.org

 

[candycorn]

It’s been said esper is against deploying the military in America? Soo we protect Afghanistan but we can’t protect Chicago? Wtf is wrong with the deep
State? Fire this bum!

Def. Sec. Esper reverses course, will keep troops near DC for protests

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper has reversed course and decided not to return active-duty troops to their home bases after they were deployed near Washington for possible action in …

nypost.com

Very smart; conspiracies of people conspiring to conspire against conspirators!!!! the clever mind of deplorables....


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Clearly the chicoms cooked up that tropical depression in the Gulf.... In an attempt to make the blob look worse.

 

[busybee01]

It’s been said esper is against deploying the military in America? Soo we protect Afghanistan but we can’t protect Chicago? Wtf is wrong with the deep
State? Fire this bum!

Def. Sec. Esper reverses course, will keep troops near DC for protests

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper has reversed course and decided not to return active-duty troops to their home bases after they were deployed near Washington for possible action in …

nypost.com

Esper is right. American troops should not be used against Americans. Garbage like you want to divide us even further.

 

[busybee01]

I wonder if now that they've arrested the other three cops involved in the George Floyd killing if the protesters will feel they've accomplished something.

Yes the protesters accomplished something, they killed 6 cops during the riots, and the Army brass doesn't want to send "peacekeepers" to US cities to stop the rioting and burning???? WTF do they have to do that's more important than that???

The military has no business in this.

 

[busybee01]

It’s been said esper is against deploying the military in America? Soo we protect Afghanistan but we can’t protect Chicago? Wtf is wrong with the deep
State? Fire this bum!

Def. Sec. Esper reverses course, will keep troops near DC for protests

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper has reversed course and decided not to return active-duty troops to their home bases after they were deployed near Washington for possible action in …

nypost.com

Our President is surrounded by traitors, that's all there is to it. The green communists and Chinese sympathizers are so deeply embedded in the highest halls of our political system that you can't tell a patriot from a Chicom sympathizer. Esper is about to kneel before the rioters and join much of the rest of America in falling on swords of white guilt.

You Nazis are the traitors. You want to use the military as political pawns. Esper is 100% right.

 

[busybee01]

You can't use the military as a police force. It goes against the Posse Act. The are only a very few instances where the military can be deployed.

Indeed. The Insurrection Act. The one Trump is considering.

Esper's opinion is of no consequence beyond advisory. Attempting to debate the boss in public is a sure path to the exit.

Doesn't the Posse Comitatus Act limit his authority? Require Congress's approval? I don't know. NPR seems to feel he can.

What Is The Insurrection Act That Trump Is Threatening To Invoke?

The 213-year-old law allows a president to "call forth the militia for the purpose of suppressing" an insurrection. Trump threatened to deploy the military to states that don't quell violent protests.

www.npr.org

But the Posse Comitatus Act would seem to limit that.

Sec. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress;

The insurrection act requires the governor of the state to ask for the federal government to send in troops.

The posse comitatus act prevents any US federal military from being used on US soil.

The National Guard is what is used on US soil. That is activated by each state and their governor.

Since Washington DC isn't a state and they don't have a National Guard or a governor, the federal troops can be used there in time of need. Which is why trump sent federal troops into DC and no where else.

The act does NOT require the State to act. The President can act on his own under any situation where it is apparent the Governor is not acting in good faith to quell the situation. Both Eisenhower and Kennedy did JUST that they did not ask for or need the Congress or the Governor.

Which is a bunch of bullshit. That is a opinion. Try it and the people should rise up against these invaders. You should use the Nazi insignia for your avatar. It is closer to the truth.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

You can't use the military as a police force. It goes against the Posse Act. The are only a very few instances where the military can be deployed.

Indeed. The Insurrection Act. The one Trump is considering.

Esper's opinion is of no consequence beyond advisory. Attempting to debate the boss in public is a sure path to the exit.

Doesn't the Posse Comitatus Act limit his authority? Require Congress's approval? I don't know. NPR seems to feel he can.

What Is The Insurrection Act That Trump Is Threatening To Invoke?

The 213-year-old law allows a president to "call forth the militia for the purpose of suppressing" an insurrection. Trump threatened to deploy the military to states that don't quell violent protests.

www.npr.org

But the Posse Comitatus Act would seem to limit that.

Sec. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress;

The insurrection act requires the governor of the state to ask for the federal government to send in troops.

The posse comitatus act prevents any US federal military from being used on US soil.

The National Guard is what is used on US soil. That is activated by each state and their governor.

Since Washington DC isn't a state and they don't have a National Guard or a governor, the federal troops can be used there in time of need. Which is why trump sent federal troops into DC and no where else.

The act does NOT require the State to act. The President can act on his own under any situation where it is apparent the Governor is not acting in good faith to quell the situation. Both Eisenhower and Kennedy did JUST that they did not ask for or need the Congress or the Governor.

Which is a bunch of bullshit. That is a opinion. Try it and the people should rise up against these invaders. You should use the Nazi insignia for your avatar. It is closer to the truth.

LOL you deny that Eisenhower and Kennedy did it? Want me to link to the article that addresses it?

 

[Jitss617]

It’s been said esper is against deploying the military in America? Soo we protect Afghanistan but we can’t protect Chicago? Wtf is wrong with the deep
State? Fire this bum!

Def. Sec. Esper reverses course, will keep troops near DC for protests

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper has reversed course and decided not to return active-duty troops to their home bases after they were deployed near Washington for possible action in …

nypost.com

Very smart; conspiracies of people conspiring to conspire against conspirators!!!! the clever mind of deplorables....


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[Jitss617]

It’s been said esper is against deploying the military in America? Soo we protect Afghanistan but we can’t protect Chicago? Wtf is wrong with the deep
State? Fire this bum!

Def. Sec. Esper reverses course, will keep troops near DC for protests

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper has reversed course and decided not to return active-duty troops to their home bases after they were deployed near Washington for possible action in …

nypost.com

I think right now this is the right call

It’s not your grandmother that can’t buy food or get her prescriptions, or you business burned down.

 

[Jitss617]

It’s been said esper is against deploying the military in America? Soo we protect Afghanistan but we can’t protect Chicago? Wtf is wrong with the deep
State? Fire this bum!

Def. Sec. Esper reverses course, will keep troops near DC for protests

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper has reversed course and decided not to return active-duty troops to their home bases after they were deployed near Washington for possible action in …

nypost.com

Esper is right. American troops should not be used against Americans. Garbage like you want to divide us even further.

No I just don’t want my country burned down by a bunch of black looters and white communist,, which is clearly happening

 

[Jitss617]

It’s been said esper is against deploying the military in America? Soo we protect Afghanistan but we can’t protect Chicago? Wtf is wrong with the deep
State? Fire this bum!

Def. Sec. Esper reverses course, will keep troops near DC for protests

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper has reversed course and decided not to return active-duty troops to their home bases after they were deployed near Washington for possible action in …

nypost.com

Our President is surrounded by traitors, that's all there is to it. The green communists and Chinese sympathizers are so deeply embedded in the highest halls of our political system that you can't tell a patriot from a Chicom sympathizer. Esper is about to kneel before the rioters and join much of the rest of America in falling on swords of white guilt.

You Nazis are the traitors. You want to use the military as political pawns. Esper is 100% right.

Why should we let our cities burn down?

 

[Mac-7]

You can't use the military as a police force. It goes against the Posse Comitatus Act. The are only a very few instances where the military can be deployed.

Libs running wild in the streets, burning looting and killing is one of those instances where the military is called for

 

[Silver Cat]

You can't use the military as a police force. It goes against the Posse Comitatus Act. The are only a very few instances where the military can be deployed.

Who say to use them as a "police force"?
Use them as the military to supress the open rebellion.

 

[Silver Cat]

It’s been said esper is against deploying the military in America? Soo we protect Afghanistan but we can’t protect Chicago? Wtf is wrong with the deep
State? Fire this bum!

Def. Sec. Esper reverses course, will keep troops near DC for protests

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper has reversed course and decided not to return active-duty troops to their home bases after they were deployed near Washington for possible action in …

nypost.com

Our President is surrounded by traitors, that's all there is to it. The green communists and Chinese sympathizers are so deeply embedded in the highest halls of our political system that you can't tell a patriot from a Chicom sympathizer. Esper is about to kneel before the rioters and join much of the rest of America in falling on swords of white guilt.

He is surrounded by traitors...well, that's his administration. And he's the head of it.

Esper is a rare voice of rationality.

So burn America down when you have the resources to protect it? Lol And you wonder why Democrats can’t win elections

America's not burning down.

Only in you understanding of the term "America".
You know:

 

[Silver Cat]

I wonder if now that they've arrested the other three cops involved in the George Floyd killing if the protesters will feel they've accomplished something.

Yes the protesters accomplished something, they killed 6 cops during the riots, and the Army brass doesn't want to send "peacekeepers" to US cities to stop the rioting and burning???? WTF do they have to do that's more important than that???

The military has no business in this.

Are you sure, that their own houses and their relatives are not endangered now? Why? Aren't they citizens of the USA?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

You can't use the military as a police force. It goes against the Posse Act. The are only a very few instances where the military can be deployed.

Indeed. The Insurrection Act. The one Trump is considering.

Esper's opinion is of no consequence beyond advisory. Attempting to debate the boss in public is a sure path to the exit.

Doesn't the Posse Comitatus Act limit his authority? Require Congress's approval? I don't know. NPR seems to feel he can.

What Is The Insurrection Act That Trump Is Threatening To Invoke?

The 213-year-old law allows a president to "call forth the militia for the purpose of suppressing" an insurrection. Trump threatened to deploy the military to states that don't quell violent protests.

www.npr.org

But the Posse Comitatus Act would seem to limit that.

Sec. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress;

NPR is wrong. The Insurrection Act overrides Posse Comitatus.

NPR says he CAN.

As to whether a state must request the presence of those military forces in the state, that's "not necessarily" the case, according to experts.

A section of the law (§251) says (emphasis ours):

"[T]he President may, upon the request of its legislature or of its governor if the legislature cannot be convened, call into Federal service such of the militia."

But the next section (§252) says:

"Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion."

What Is The Insurrection Act That Trump Is Threatening To Invoke?

The 213-year-old law allows a president to "call forth the militia for the purpose of suppressing" an insurrection. Trump threatened to deploy the military to states that don't quell violent protests.

www.npr.org

He may proceed on his own authority if governors and municipal leaders refuse to do or are otherwise not doing their jobs.

 

[eddiew]

Gen Mattis calls the Trump pos out
Former Secretary of Defense James Mattis denounced President Trump, the "militarization" of Washington, D.C., and the "abuse of executive authority" of forcing protesters from Lafayette Square in a stunning statement that made the case that the country is witnessing the consequences of a president who has sought to "divide" the nation for three years.


It's the most forceful statement yet from the decorated retired Marine Corps four-star general who left his role as defense secretary in late 2018 amid disagreements with the president about withdrawing troops from the Middle East.

"Donald Trump is the first president in my lifetime who does not try to unite the American people—does not even pretend to try. Instead he tries to divide us," Mattis said in his lengthy statement titled, "In union there is strength." "We are witnessing the consequences of three years of this deliberate effort. We are witnessing the consequences of three years without mature leadership. We can unite without him, drawing on the strengths inherent in our civil society."

Jim Mattis and President Trump seen March 8, 2018, in Washington, D.C.GETTY
Mattis also condemned the "militarizing" response that has played out in D.C. and that the president has threatened to use on states, and he rebuked Defense Secretary Mark Esper for referring to U.S. cities and streets as a "battlespace." He also rejected the president's insistence that the military needs to "dominate" the streets.

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"We must reject any thinking of our cities as a 'battlespace' that our uniformed military is called upon to 'dominate.' At home, we should use our military only when requested to do so, on very rare occasions, by state governors," Mattis wrote. "Militarizing our response, as we witnessed in Washington, D.C., sets up a conflict — a false conflict— between the military and civilian society. It erodes the moral ground that ensures a trusted bond between men and women in uniform and the society they are sworn to protect, and of which they themselves are a part."

Mattis also urged the nation to hold accountable those "who would make a mockery of our Constitution."

"We know that we are better than the abuse of executive authority that we witnessed in Lafayette Square," he continued. "We must reject and hold accountable those in office who would make a mockery of our Constitution. At the same time, we must remember Lincoln's "better angels," and listen to them, as we work to unite."

Mr. Trump tweeted not long after Mattis released his statement, saying "I didn't like his 'leadership' style or much else about him ... Glad he is gone!"

 

[Care4all]

It’s been said esper is against deploying the military in America? Soo we protect Afghanistan but we can’t protect Chicago? Wtf is wrong with the deep
State? Fire this bum!

Def. Sec. Esper reverses course, will keep troops near DC for protests

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper has reversed course and decided not to return active-duty troops to their home bases after they were deployed near Washington for possible action in …

nypost.com

Please leave, and go back to your beloved Soviet Union.

 

[eddiew]

Who to trust? A 4 star General or a scumbag bone spur moron??

 

[Care4all]

You can't use the military as a police force. It goes against the Posse Act. The are only a very few instances where the military can be deployed.

Indeed. The Insurrection Act. The one Trump is considering.

Esper's opinion is of no consequence beyond advisory. Attempting to debate the boss in public is a sure path to the exit.

Doesn't the Posse Comitatus Act limit his authority? Require Congress's approval? I don't know. NPR seems to feel he can.

What Is The Insurrection Act That Trump Is Threatening To Invoke?

The 213-year-old law allows a president to "call forth the militia for the purpose of suppressing" an insurrection. Trump threatened to deploy the military to states that don't quell violent protests.

www.npr.org

But the Posse Comitatus Act would seem to limit that.

Sec. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress;

NPR is wrong. The Insurrection Act overrides Posse Comitatus.

NPR says he CAN.

As to whether a state must request the presence of those military forces in the state, that's "not necessarily" the case, according to experts.

A section of the law (§251) says (emphasis ours):

"[T]he President may, upon the request of its legislature or of its governor if the legislature cannot be convened, call into Federal service such of the militia."

But the next section (§252) says:

"Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion."

What Is The Insurrection Act That Trump Is Threatening To Invoke?

The 213-year-old law allows a president to "call forth the militia for the purpose of suppressing" an insurrection. Trump threatened to deploy the military to states that don't quell violent protests.

www.npr.org

He may proceed on his own authority if governors and municipal leaders refuse to do or are otherwise not doing their jobs.

Under rebellion.... there is no rebellion.... there are a handful of looters and thugs...