Esper doesn’t want troops protecting America? Deep state?

[Care4all]

Wow! Now Repub trumpets don't even believe in our Republic...... amazing how the one bad Apple at the top, spoiled the whole damn bunch.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Who to trust? A 4 star General or a scumbag bone spur moron??

Trust logic and common sense.

Military service does not in itself impart wisdom, nor preclude the possibility of error.

Mattis like most military leadership is prone to be against domestic military interference to the point of stasis. That is not a wise position, particularly when dealing with potentially widespread insurrection fostered by the democrats.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

You can't use the military as a police force. It goes against the Posse Act. The are only a very few instances where the military can be deployed.

Indeed. The Insurrection Act. The one Trump is considering.

Esper's opinion is of no consequence beyond advisory. Attempting to debate the boss in public is a sure path to the exit.

Doesn't the Posse Comitatus Act limit his authority? Require Congress's approval? I don't know. NPR seems to feel he can.

What Is The Insurrection Act That Trump Is Threatening To Invoke?

The 213-year-old law allows a president to "call forth the militia for the purpose of suppressing" an insurrection. Trump threatened to deploy the military to states that don't quell violent protests.

www.npr.org

But the Posse Comitatus Act would seem to limit that.

Sec. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress;

NPR is wrong. The Insurrection Act overrides Posse Comitatus.

NPR says he CAN.

As to whether a state must request the presence of those military forces in the state, that's "not necessarily" the case, according to experts.

A section of the law (§251) says (emphasis ours):

"[T]he President may, upon the request of its legislature or of its governor if the legislature cannot be convened, call into Federal service such of the militia."

But the next section (§252) says:

"Whenever the President considers that unlawful obstructions, combinations, or assemblages, or rebellion against the authority of the United States, make it impracticable to enforce the laws of the United States in any State by the ordinary course of judicial proceedings, he may call into Federal service such of the militia of any State, and use such of the armed forces, as he considers necessary to enforce those laws or to suppress the rebellion."

What Is The Insurrection Act That Trump Is Threatening To Invoke?

The 213-year-old law allows a president to "call forth the militia for the purpose of suppressing" an insurrection. Trump threatened to deploy the military to states that don't quell violent protests.

www.npr.org

He may proceed on his own authority if governors and municipal leaders refuse to do or are otherwise not doing their jobs.

Under rebellion.... there is no rebellion.... there are a handful of looters and thugs...

Right. The actions of rioters within the Democrat-run cities is uniform by chance.

 

[Jitss617]

It’s been said esper is against deploying the military in America? Soo we protect Afghanistan but we can’t protect Chicago? Wtf is wrong with the deep
State? Fire this bum!

Def. Sec. Esper reverses course, will keep troops near DC for protests

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper has reversed course and decided not to return active-duty troops to their home bases after they were deployed near Washington for possible action in …

nypost.com

Please leave, and go back to your beloved Soviet Union.

Biting down the cities are a democrat/ Soviet Union thing.. get a education pea brain

 

[Care4all]

You can't use the military as a police force. It goes against the Posse Comitatus Act. The are only a very few instances where the military can be deployed.

Indeed. The Insurrection Act. The one Trump is considering.

Esper's opinion is of no consequence beyond advisory. Attempting to debate the boss in public is a sure path to the exit.

What's the requirements to use the insurrection act?

What's the definition of insurrection?

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Insurrection refers to an act or instance of revolting against civil authority or an established government. It is a violent revolt against an oppressive authority. Insurrection is different from riots and offenses connected with mob violence.

In insurrection there is an organized and armed uprising against authority or operations of government whereas riots and offenses connected with mob violence are simply unlawful acts in disturbance of the peace which do not threaten the stability of the government or the existence of political society.

The following is a case law defining Insurrection:

Insurrection means “a violent uprising by a group or movement acting for the specific purpose of overthrowing the constituted government and seizing its powers. An insurrection occurs where a movement acts to overthrow the constituted government and to take possession of its inherent powers.” [Younis Bros. & Co. v. Cigna Worldwide Ins. Co., 899 F. Supp. 1385, 1392-1393 (E.D. Pa. 1995)]

He can't use the military for this under the insurrection act,

BECAUSE there is No insurrection.

 

[Care4all]

Impeach him, if he even tries to use it!

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Impeach him, if he even tries to use it!

"Off with his head!"
- The Red Queen, Alice in Wonderland

 

[Care4all]

Impeach him, if he even tries to use it!

"Off with his head!"
- The Red Queen, Alice in Wonderland

You obviously don't give a hoot about your own Nation.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Impeach him, if he even tries to use it!

"Off with his head!"
- The Red Queen, Alice in Wonderland

You obviously don't give a hoot about your own Nation.

Au contraire, I favor the destruction of that which would destroy it.

 

[Silver Cat]

BTW, can he use foreign police, foreign military forces or mercenaries to protect loyal and peaceful citizens and eliminate those terrorists?

 

[Care4all]

Impeach him, if he even tries to use it!

"Off with his head!"
- The Red Queen, Alice in Wonderland

You obviously don't give a hoot about your own Nation.

Au contraire, I favor the destruction of that which would destroy it.

There is no insurrection.

He can't use the Military against the Americans protesting or rioting.

PERIOD.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Impeach him, if he even tries to use it!

"Off with his head!"
- The Red Queen, Alice in Wonderland

You obviously don't give a hoot about your own Nation.

Au contraire, I favor the destruction of that which would destroy it.

There is no insurrection.

He can't use the Military against the Americans protesting or rioting.

PERIOD.

Your willful stupidity does not alter reality.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

BTW, can he use foreign police, foreign military forces or mercenaries to protect loyal and peaceful citizens and eliminate those terrorists?

No.

 

[DOTR]

It’s been said esper is against deploying the military in America? Soo we protect Afghanistan but we can’t protect Chicago? Wtf is wrong with the deep
State? Fire this bum!

Def. Sec. Esper reverses course, will keep troops near DC for protests

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper has reversed course and decided not to return active-duty troops to their home bases after they were deployed near Washington for possible action in …

nypost.com

I know you russian trolls aren't familiar with the laws of the United States nor our constitution so I guess you need to be educated on this even though this law has been debated before.

Learn about the Posse Comitatus Act.

Then learn about the Insurrection Act.

Those two laws will explain why the Secretary of the Defense doesn't support trump using the US military on American citizens.

By the way, how's the weather today in moscow comrade?

Did you translate that from Yiddish?

 

[Crixus]

It’s been said esper is against deploying the military in America? Soo we protect Afghanistan but we can’t protect Chicago? Wtf is wrong with the deep
State? Fire this bum!

Def. Sec. Esper reverses course, will keep troops near DC for protests

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper has reversed course and decided not to return active-duty troops to their home bases after they were deployed near Washington for possible action in …

nypost.com

He is a fag. He talks his shit about not using troops then runs right to the white house, puts Trump's dick in his mouth and does the complete opposite of what he told the news. Esper is an empty suit.

 

[DOTR]

You can't use the military as a police force. It goes against the Posse Act. The are only a very few instances where the military can be deployed.

Indeed. The Insurrection Act. The one Trump is considering.

Esper's opinion is of no consequence beyond advisory. Attempting to debate the boss in public is a sure path to the exit.

Doesn't the Posse Comitatus Act limit his authority? Require Congress's approval? I don't know. NPR seems to feel he can.

What Is The Insurrection Act That Trump Is Threatening To Invoke?

The 213-year-old law allows a president to "call forth the militia for the purpose of suppressing" an insurrection. Trump threatened to deploy the military to states that don't quell violent protests.

www.npr.org

But the Posse Comitatus Act would seem to limit that.

Sec. 15. From and after the passage of this act it shall not be lawful to employ any part of the Army of the United States, as a posse comitatus, or otherwise, for the purpose of executing the laws, except in such cases and under such circumstances as such employment of said force may be expressly authorized by the Constitution or by act of Congress;

“I don’t know so I’ll just give the opinion NPR gave me”

 

[Camp]

"Deep State" is a conspiracy theory term. No matter how much conspiracy theory promoters use the term citizens should be reminded there is no such thing as a deep state as the conspiracy theory extremist wish you to believe. They simply use the structure of bureaucracies, which every government has to imply an evil purpose of any and all government functions, purposes, and operations. Hence, even the government funding of building a road can be interpreted as a "Deep State" operation and plot.

 

[Silver Cat]

BTW, can he use foreign police, foreign military forces or mercenaries to protect loyal and peaceful citizens and eliminate those terrorists?

No.

Why?

 

[DOTR]

It’s been said esper is against deploying the military in America? Soo we protect Afghanistan but we can’t protect Chicago? Wtf is wrong with the deep
State? Fire this bum!

Def. Sec. Esper reverses course, will keep troops near DC for protests

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper has reversed course and decided not to return active-duty troops to their home bases after they were deployed near Washington for possible action in …

nypost.com

Surprising you didn’t learn this is civics class.

They haven't taught civics in US high schools in over 25 years.

NPR teaches them now.

 

[Care4all]

It’s been said esper is against deploying the military in America? Soo we protect Afghanistan but we can’t protect Chicago? Wtf is wrong with the deep
State? Fire this bum!

Def. Sec. Esper reverses course, will keep troops near DC for protests

WASHINGTON — Defense Secretary Mark Esper has reversed course and decided not to return active-duty troops to their home bases after they were deployed near Washington for possible action in …

nypost.com

Please leave, and go back to your beloved Soviet Union.

Biting down the cities are a democrat/ Soviet Union thing.. get a education pea brain

Using the military within the USA for rioters is Soviet-esque and against the law of this land.